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I really do believe that Drinkwitz's winning did a number on Appalachian from which we have not fully recovered.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pmIn September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
What exactly do you mean? Serious question.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:54 pmI really do believe that Drinkwitz's winning did a number on Appalachian from which we have not fully recovered.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pmIn September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
Last night was a reevaluation game for Appalachian like last week's game was for Clemson.
Exactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
I do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
So, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Exactly haha. He’s got Mizzou in playoff contention the past 2-3 years.AppinVA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:36 pmSo, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Let's just hire all the nice guys and stay mediocre.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
You do realize 2017 was Satt not Drink?AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:54 pmI really do believe that Drinkwitz's winning did a number on Appalachian from which we have not fully recovered.appgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pmIn September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
Last night was a reevaluation game for Appalachian like last week's game was for Clemson.
Scratching my head as to where I've seen a similar situationappstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
It's about the Jimmys and Joesappgrad95&97 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:31 pmIn September of 2017 we played a Georgia team that probably should have won the National Championship. We lost 31-10. Not even a national championship caliber team did to us what Clemson did last night. The overall regression of this progam is real. I don't have answers. But I'm not blind.
Oh, i had two interactions with him and he was a grade A ass. Fake and looked like he always wanted to be somewhere else. But he wonAppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
As long as the coach wins I don't care. Shawn has a winning record but has not had that special season that Drink had yet. I would not have wanted Drink to stay long but if you could guarantee 2019 type results I would take it every time.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:34 pmOh, i had two interactions with him and he was a grade A ass. Fake and looked like he always wanted to be somewhere else. But he wonAppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
I don't care about my personal influence or whether I like a coach either. I just care if they win games within the rules. Shawn Clark is paid to be the HC of App State and win games. That is the simple fact. He is not paid to be liked or kiss butt of boosters. The reality is if you win everyone will be happy. Some might complain about personality but nobody will call for your job if you win.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
You don’t believe he would have sustained that very long? LOL. He’s got Missouri ranked in the top 10 and played in multiple SEC championship games.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Professional? I believe he was a real jerk that just used us...
What criteria makes this the best conference in college football? Not disagreeing, just want to know.AppinVA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:36 pmSo, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?
Two contact-aided eyes and most of the country that would agree with me about the SEC, including Matt Mitchell, Jermaine Funnymaine Johnson, and the cast from SEC Shorts.NewApp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:40 pmWhat criteria makes this the best conference in college football? Not disagreeing, just want to know.AppinVA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:36 pmSo, you’re saying he couldn’t sustain a winning program at a place wheee winning is a standard, but in reality, he’s built a winner at a place that has generally accepted mediocrity all the while doing it in the best conference in college football. Got it.AppWyo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:32 pmI do not believe he would have sustained that for very long.AppDub wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:28 pmExactly. He was a very good coach who wasn't worried about being the nice guy and liked by everyone. He was a professional who did what he was paid to do...win games.appstatealum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 3:24 pmI believe Drinkwitz didn't give 2 shits about the "appalachian way" or kissed the ass of boomer boosters who'd rather keep us FCS than lose their influence. He came in with a professional attitude and ran the team within the limits of their capacity.....and he won and got the hell out when the offers came. Drink was ahead of his time in the new CFB age and we should've taken away something from the way he did things. And I'm not saying I liked Drink, but what does winning have to do with being well-liked?