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Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:06 pm
by falcoapp
Any news from the mothership?
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:18 pm
by AppSt94
I wouldn’t expect anything until Thursday or maybe late Wednesday. But National Signing Day might give some clues.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:25 pm
by KentHogan
I feel like if it were going to happen, it would have happened today.
However, to be fair, I don’t know all the finer points to making a change, but it usually doesn’t take long if it’s going to happen.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:34 pm
by AppSt94
KentHogan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:25 pm
I feel like if it were going to happen, it would have happened today.
However, to be fair, I don’t know all the finer points to making a change, but it usually doesn’t take long if it’s going to happen.
Anything that was going to done has likely taken place. The announcements likely come after NSD.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:38 pm
by BallantyneApp
Thamel just reported its a done deal (fired). Not 100% but Thamel is usually legit.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:41 pm
by Bootsy
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:04 pm
by Stonewall
Confirmed.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:08 pm
by Saint3333
Stonewall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:04 pm
Confirmed.
Appreciate you providing verified intel as always.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:18 pm
by fjblair
So it begins.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:27 pm
by t4pizza
Now time for a real national search that ends with the best qualified coach that we can afford.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:35 pm
by App91
I would hope that we have already started way down that road at this point. I think we have about 4 days to get this done, shore up commits and sift through the Transfer portal.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:51 pm
by ASUFan4863
AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:18 pm
I wouldn’t expect anything until Thursday or maybe late Wednesday. But National Signing Day might give some clues.
It’s quite funny how often you are wrong. You act like you are in the know but actually know nothing.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:07 pm
by Yosefus
I hate it for Clark and his family. Having fired folks and been fired a few times myself the personal part of it isn't good. Especially around the holidays.
With that said I personally don't think there were any other options moving forward with him at the helm. The owner of the company has a saying that fit matters. It's true, not everyone is a good fit at what they do.
Wish Coach Clark luck in his future landing site. Nothing personal, no hate, no ill will.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:13 pm
by Pikapp79
Yosefus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:07 pm
I hate it for Clark and his family. Having fired folks and been fired a few times myself the personal part of it isn't good. Especially around the holidays.
With that said I personally don't think there were any other options moving forward with him at the helm. The owner of the company has a saying that fit matters. It's true, not everyone is a good fit at what they do.
Wish Coach Clark luck in his future landing site. Nothing personal, no hate, no ill will.
Agree but his profession is highly paid and success based. He will land another highly paid job.
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:36 am
by Bootsy
I will say this: I didn’t think Gillin would fire Clark, for reasons I’ve shared elsewhere on this board. That comes from years of working in corporate America where we work to remove emotion from staffing decisions and look at the larger strategic/tactical picture. All of this said, I do have more respect for Gillin this morning because he made a tough choice without having air cover to back him up.
And I don’t mind admitting I was wrong on my prediction. I wasn’t excited about the prospects for App Football with SC remaining at the wheel; it was not going to be good for the program. The numbers don’t lie, and the numbers were bad and getting worse. The product on the field was wildly inconsistent from week to week, in-game decision making continued to be a mystery and a grand total of zero people were excited about App’s prospects for 2025 with Clark running the show.
We all love App State, and I’m excited about the future of the program. GO APP!
Re: Black Monday
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:36 am
by Pikapp79
Bootsy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:36 am
I will say this: I didn’t think Gillin would fire Clark, for reasons I’ve shared elsewhere on this board. That comes from years of working in corporate America where we work to remove emotion from staffing decisions and look at the larger strategic/tactical picture. All of this said, I do have more respect for Gillin this morning because he made a tough choice without having air cover to back him up.
And I don’t mind admitting I was wrong on my prediction. I wasn’t excited about the prospects for App Football with SC remaining at the wheel; it was not going to be good for the program. The numbers don’t lie, and the numbers were bad and getting worse. The product on the field was wildly inconsistent from week to week, in-game decision making continued to be a mystery and a grand total of zero people were excited about App’s prospects for 2025 with Clark running the show.
We all love App State, and I’m excited about the future of the program. GO APP!
In corporate America we let underperforming employees slide all the time. You can hide a person for decades if you don’t have the backbone to admit a mistake. It’s not as easy for a CEO to survive years of underperformance.