Roster/Staff Updates

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:15 am

Last year was not a successful one, we can agree there.

Writing off a coach after 13 games that inherited the least amount of talent we’ve had at the FBS level is premature, even more premature for someone that explained away the evident decline in the program the three years prior to last year.

You may prove to be correct, but probably fair to see a little more first.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:36 am

BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:59 am
I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.
All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:40 am

Saint3333 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:15 am
Last year was not a successful one, we can agree there.

Writing off a coach after 13 games that inherited the least amount of talent we’ve had at the FBS level is premature, even more premature for someone that explained away the evident decline in the program the three years prior to last year.

You may prove to be correct, but probably fair to see a little more first.
I wasn’t explaining it away rather explaining why it was happening. We clearly saw things differently and that’s fine.

The hire was questionable from the beginning and I’ll stand by that. He has the time but nothing he has done has shown me has changed my mind. And I’m not forming those opinions based on the record.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:43 am

Just very hard to understand as there does not seem to be a money problem.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:13 am

In all seriousness, execution was the problem. QB decision making , blocking , tackling, penalties …a long list of issues.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:26 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:40 am
Saint3333 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:15 am
Last year was not a successful one, we can agree there.

Writing off a coach after 13 games that inherited the least amount of talent we’ve had at the FBS level is premature, even more premature for someone that explained away the evident decline in the program the three years prior to last year.

You may prove to be correct, but probably fair to see a little more first.
I wasn’t explaining it away rather explaining why it was happening. We clearly saw things differently and that’s fine.

The hire was questionable from the beginning and I’ll stand by that. He has the time but nothing he has done has shown me has changed my mind. And I’m not forming those opinions based on the record.
Other than the “based on record” portion of this post, one could guess this was a post from 2024 about Clark.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:40 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 12:00 am
311neers wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 5:45 pm
Fans demand an OC.
Dowell hires an OC.

Fans still bitc*.

We are doomed.
If he hired an offensive coordinator who won’t be calling plays, then what’s he there for? It sure looks like DLO hired a figurehead but will still try and do it all himself. If that’s the case fans may have a right to be aggravated by this. I guess we’ll have to wait and see
I don't see why anyone would defend or be upset by it because we don't know. There are a lot of ways to use this hire. He could help with the game plan during the week and collaborate with Loggains during the game, he could send in 2-3 plays to Loggains and he then choose from that group, he could call the plays and Loggains just have the ability to override if he does not like a play or we are struggling and he thinks a change up is needed, etc. There are a lot of ways head coaches do this so it will be interesting to see what Loggains does with it and the results from it.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:46 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:36 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:59 am
I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.
All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.
And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Lowcountry App » Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:18 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:46 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:36 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:59 am
I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.
All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.
And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.
I assume then the $1,350,000 buyout at the end of this year is not an issue.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Tru2ASU » Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:36 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:46 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:36 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:59 am
I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.
All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.
And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.
More than DLo will be fired...

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Saint3333 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:55 am

Having to spend a good portion of the cash that would go to the NIL will be a tough pill to swallow.

It would have to be a disastrous season. But the incremental costs of the buyout after two vs three seasons isn’t likely enough to wait another year.

I’m hopeful we’ll have better talent across the board this year.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 12:31 pm

Tru2ASU wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 11:36 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:46 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 9:36 am
BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:59 am
I’m hoping this guy takes enough duties away that DLO can focus on HC duties and I guess call plays.

I was frustrated at times too last year but there were good calls and good gameplans at times. Uncc and USM I thought we had a good game plan (pretty much no one comes back from 3 red zone ints)

My main thing is I wish the playcaller was up in the booth but I guess we’re not going to get that.
All fair. I just don’t think that DLo will relinquish playcalling.
And if he does not and we miss a bowl game then he will be out at the end of the year if what I'm hearing from people connected to BOT and Gillin is true. It is all on him and I'm sure he knows it. It will be interesting to see what he does and what the results will be.
More than DLo will be fired...
Correct. If we miss another bowl then both will be fired. The only thing that could potentially save DG in that scenario is an amazing basketball and baseball run.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 12:33 pm

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Sat Feb 07, 2026 8:17 am
96 years of NFL experience got us a 5-8 record. Let’s upgrade with a career analyst and make him the OC. That tracks.
Unfortunately, that record was largely the result of years of piss poor recruiting and development. Not sure why this has to be rehashed time and time again. Clark did a number on the program.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by WASU 93 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 12:58 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 10:40 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 12:00 am
311neers wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 5:45 pm
Fans demand an OC.
Dowell hires an OC.

Fans still bitc*.

We are doomed.
If he hired an offensive coordinator who won’t be calling plays, then what’s he there for? It sure looks like DLO hired a figurehead but will still try and do it all himself. If that’s the case fans may have a right to be aggravated by this. I guess we’ll have to wait and see
I don't see why anyone would defend or be upset by it because we don't know. There are a lot of ways to use this hire. He could help with the game plan during the week and collaborate with Loggains during the game, he could send in 2-3 plays to Loggains and he then choose from that group, he could call the plays and Loggains just have the ability to override if he does not like a play or we are struggling and he thinks a change up is needed, etc. There are a lot of ways head coaches do this so it will be interesting to see what Loggains does with it and the results from it.
Hopefully, he relinquishes play calling so he can learn the full role of an in game head coach. Working the refs, managing the clock, calling a time out when we are misaligned, taking time to coach up players that are coming out of the game/on the sideline, conferring with his staff, etc.

And, hopefully our OC is in the booth.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Feb 07, 2026 1:31 pm

Did we expect to hire an actual OC with a big track record?
What’s our budget? $150k? Most grads make more than that by age 30.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Feb 07, 2026 2:02 pm

311neers wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 1:31 pm
Did we expect to hire an actual OC with a big track record?
What’s our budget? $150k? Most grads make more than that by age 30.
I wouldn’t expect one with a big track record. But I wouldn’t expect one that has actually laced up his track shoes. I don’t think that this guy is going to call plays on gameday.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Feb 07, 2026 2:11 pm

311neers wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 1:31 pm
Did we expect to hire an actual OC with a big track record?
What’s our budget? $150k? Most grads make more than that by age 30.
I would be happier with a guy who had any track record at all. As far as budget we have 26 support staff and can't afford an OC ? We have a major stadium expansion in the works and can't afford an OC ? I trust your budget number and if it is accurate we need a new AD immediatly.
I didn't like the hire, but I do want him to be successful. I don't want to start all over again after next year and I certainly don't want DG to make the hire. I hope coach is not his own worst enemy.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Feb 07, 2026 2:18 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 2:02 pm
311neers wrote:
Sat Feb 07, 2026 1:31 pm
Did we expect to hire an actual OC with a big track record?
What’s our budget? $150k? Most grads make more than that by age 30.
I wouldn’t expect one with a big track record. But I wouldn’t expect one that has actually laced up his track shoes. I don’t think that this guy is going to call plays on gameday.
Agreed- don’t think he will be calling plays. But freeing up time and focus hopefully helps DLo out on O.

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Re: Roster/Staff Updates

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Feb 07, 2026 3:44 pm

I don’t see DG getting fired next year short of something egregious. A bowl game gets DLo another season I believe short of that and it’s a coin flip due to the financial calculations. My opinion, nothing more.

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