New East Tower renderings

[BambooRdApp]

When will this be completed?

I think the answer probably is .."it depends". IMO the athletics department will start if there is strong interest.

[ASUFan4863]

How confident is Jack branch that we can get into a very depleted Acc?I don’t see this as a good investment if we’re long term in the sunbelt or even a reworked Americanwithout Memphis/usf/tulane maybe

Who says that's the plan? Based on everything else happening, it seems like the Sun Belt is poised to pick up the leftover teams that don't get invited to the super conferences, which will make the Sun Belt stronger. If I were making those bets, I'd stay put.

It’s the plan, but I don't have faith in Gillin to execute said plan. He couldn’t get us into the AAC when the opportunity came up. Staying in the Sun belt long term is a financially terrible decision.

As far as this expansion, it’s a strong no for me as well. Gillin proves time and time again that he is not ready to meet the demands of the new era of college football.

[Saint3333]

How confident is Jack branch that we can get into a very depleted Acc?I don’t see this as a good investment if we’re long term in the sunbelt or even a reworked Americanwithout Memphis/usf/tulane maybe

Who says that's the plan? Based on everything else happening, it seems like the Sun Belt is poised to pick up the leftover teams that don't get invited to the super conferences, which will make the Sun Belt stronger. If I were making those bets, I'd stay put.

It’s the plan, but I don't have faith in Gillin to execute said plan. He couldn’t get us into the AAC when the opportunity came up. Staying in the Sun belt long term is a financially terrible decision.

As far as this expansion, it’s a strong no for me as well. Gillin proves time and time again that he is not ready to meet the demands of the new era of college football.

Our fanbase isn't built to meet the demands of this new era, myself included in that remark.

[BallantyneApp]

How confident is Jack branch that we can get into a very depleted Acc?I don’t see this as a good investment if we’re long term in the sunbelt or even a reworked Americanwithout Memphis/usf/tulane maybe

Who says that's the plan? Based on everything else happening, it seems like the Sun Belt is poised to pick up the leftover teams that don't get invited to the super conferences, which will make the Sun Belt stronger. If I were making those bets, I'd stay put.

I wish it was the case but it’s not. The SBC has structural problems. Mainly the west is not nearly as strong as the east as far as media value and budget. Their best media property just left for the pac.


Having three schools in a small poor state of Louisiana is a perfect example. The west is never going to match the east and would be a big barrier to any current aac school joining because of media valuation.

I’m hoping we have weekly calls with jmu and continue to want to be joined at the hip.

Edit to add: aac gets minimum $10MM and likely more based kn history in exit fees, ACC is going to have hundreds of millions in exit fees. The remaining schools can use those funds to keep current members and woo future ones.

[BallantyneApp]

How confident is Jack branch that we can get into a very depleted Acc?I don’t see this as a good investment if we’re long term in the sunbelt or even a reworked Americanwithout Memphis/usf/tulane maybe

Who says that's the plan? Based on everything else happening, it seems like the Sun Belt is poised to pick up the leftover teams that don't get invited to the super conferences, which will make the Sun Belt stronger. If I were making those bets, I'd stay put.

It’s the plan, but I don't have faith in Gillin to execute said plan. He couldn’t get us into the AAC when the opportunity came up. Staying in the Sun belt long term is a financially terrible decision.

As far as this expansion, it’s a strong no for me as well. Gillin proves time and time again that he is not ready to meet the demands of the new era of college football.

I don’t blame gillin 100% on the aac. If you look at it objectively, ESPN (who really controls realignment) probably wasn’t really onboard with 3 schools in NC. I also wouldn’t be surprised if ECU supported but uncc quietly didn’t, even though we throw them bones all the time. And if you look at it objectively, Army fits very well and brings a lot of eyeballs, even without the game.

[BambooRdApp]

The AAC, MWC and the new PAC have better media deals than the SBC. If things crack in other conferences, SBC will be the 4th choice unless we can get a better media deal with teams coming in.

[appbroker20]

NASCAR Logo is a big no for me. Everything else looks sweet.

[biggie]

Interesting part will be how many seats will be lost for a season while construction is happening. I know I won't be affording anything in that building just like the other 2 we have currently.

[EastHallApp]

Per App State email today.

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INTRODUCING THE FUTURE OF APP STATE!

We are embarking on a transformative initiative to build the new East Tower at Kidd Brewer Stadium, a landmark facility designed to elevate our gameday experience, strengthen our community, and drive meaningful economic impact across North Carolina.

According to the 2022 UNC Economic Impact Analysis, App State Athletics is arguably the strongest economic driver west of I-77, generating $112 million in annual statewide economic impact.

Your Investment in the Future

Your partnership is vital to realizing this transformative project. With your support, the East Tower will become a catalyst for growth and advancing App State’s long-term sustainability.

We welcome the opportunity to discuss this initiative and explore how your involvement can help shape the future of game days at the Rock.

Why the East Tower Matters

• Expanded Capacity: Adds new premium seating options that meet sustained demand—backed by four consecutive seasons of season ticket sellouts.
• Stadium Operations: Enhances stadium crowd flow and access points, as well as stadium infrastructure replacement and upgrades.
• Economic Impact: Further enhance App State’s strong economic impact on the region and state.

Interested in learning more? Please complete the survey below, and a member of our team will be in touch.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIp ... a701ee687b

The corner entrance is awesome.
But if it's still metal bleachered upper deck...hell no.
NASCAR FONT.

I notice an indoor slide and the rock is moved up top to a concourse.

Agree, would love to see them use this opportunity to upgrade the in-stadium seating.

Just can’t fathom spending $150m (NEZ and East Tower) and still having failing concrete and metal bleachers.

From a financial perspective (and what other perspective is there in college sports), I'm sure they would say the existing seats are already selling, so there's no ROI in improving them.

From a fan experience perspective - which is the one I actually have - I think it's time.

[mike87]

The fuzzy math they use to make these things flow is beyond me.

[Bootsy]

How sound are the cost projections? Can you count on the math being right? Or will this project end up being a cost overrun-palooza like NEZ?

[AppSt94]

How confident is Jack branch that we can get into a very depleted Acc?I don’t see this as a good investment if we’re long term in the sunbelt or even a reworked Americanwithout Memphis/usf/tulane maybe

Who says that's the plan? Based on everything else happening, it seems like the Sun Belt is poised to pick up the leftover teams that don't get invited to the super conferences, which will make the Sun Belt stronger. If I were making those bets, I'd stay put.

It’s the plan, but I don't have faith in Gillin to execute said plan. He couldn’t get us into the AAC when the opportunity came up. Staying in the Sun belt long term is a financially terrible decision.

As far as this expansion, it’s a strong no for me as well. Gillin proves time and time again that he is not ready to meet the demands of the new era of college football.

Our fanbase isn't built to meet the demands of this new era, myself included in that remark.

We often butt heads but I tend to agree with this. A large contingent of our fanbase is ok with upgrades, just don’t ask me to pay for it.

[Saint3333]

We've agreed a lot more for over a year now.

[APPdiesel]

If message board fans’ understanding of a school’s finances and the school’s actual finances were a Vinn diagram it would look like an ♾️ symbol.

(Infinity, in case the special character doesn’t come through)

[BallantyneApp]

How confident is Jack branch that we can get into a very depleted Acc?I don’t see this as a good investment if we’re long term in the sunbelt or even a reworked Americanwithout Memphis/usf/tulane maybe

Who says that's the plan? Based on everything else happening, it seems like the Sun Belt is poised to pick up the leftover teams that don't get invited to the super conferences, which will make the Sun Belt stronger. If I were making those bets, I'd stay put.

It’s the plan, but I don't have faith in Gillin to execute said plan. He couldn’t get us into the AAC when the opportunity came up. Staying in the Sun belt long term is a financially terrible decision.

As far as this expansion, it’s a strong no for me as well. Gillin proves time and time again that he is not ready to meet the demands of the new era of college football.

Our fanbase isn't built to meet the demands of this new era, myself included in that remark.

We often butt heads but I tend to agree with this. A large contingent of our fanbase is ok with upgrades, just don’t ask me to pay for it.

To be fair to our fans, stadium construction around the country is financed increasingly by public funds and not by fans themselves.

The panthers are giving David tapper $650MM in welfare for stadium upgrades.

If that would have been put on fans, they’d have to increase gate receipts by a minimum 50% to pay it off within 15 years at low interest rates.

[AppSt94]

Who says that's the plan? Based on everything else happening, it seems like the Sun Belt is poised to pick up the leftover teams that don't get invited to the super conferences, which will make the Sun Belt stronger. If I were making those bets, I'd stay put.

It’s the plan, but I don't have faith in Gillin to execute said plan. He couldn’t get us into the AAC when the opportunity came up. Staying in the Sun belt long term is a financially terrible decision.

As far as this expansion, it’s a strong no for me as well. Gillin proves time and time again that he is not ready to meet the demands of the new era of college football.

Our fanbase isn't built to meet the demands of this new era, myself included in that remark.

We often butt heads but I tend to agree with this. A large contingent of our fanbase is ok with upgrades, just don’t ask me to pay for it.

To be fair to our fans, stadium construction around the country is financed increasingly by public funds and not by fans themselves.

The panthers are giving David tapper $650MM in welfare for stadium upgrades.

If that would have been put on fans, they’d have to increase gate receipts by a minimum 50% to pay it off within 15 years at low interest rates.

We have a good number of folks that want to win and grouse when we aren’t that think the solution is for the Ricks, Sofield’s, Byers, Harrils and Combs of the world to just give more.

[BallantyneApp]

It’s the plan, but I don't have faith in Gillin to execute said plan. He couldn’t get us into the AAC when the opportunity came up. Staying in the Sun belt long term is a financially terrible decision.

As far as this expansion, it’s a strong no for me as well. Gillin proves time and time again that he is not ready to meet the demands of the new era of college football.

Our fanbase isn't built to meet the demands of this new era, myself included in that remark.

We often butt heads but I tend to agree with this. A large contingent of our fanbase is ok with upgrades, just don’t ask me to pay for it.

To be fair to our fans, stadium construction around the country is financed increasingly by public funds and not by fans themselves.

The panthers are giving David tapper $650MM in welfare for stadium upgrades.

If that would have been put on fans, they’d have to increase gate receipts by a minimum 50% to pay it off within 15 years at low interest rates.

We have a good number of folks that want to win and grouse when we aren’t that think the solution is for the Ricks, Sofield’s, Byers, Harrils and Combs of the world to just give more.

In the new world the only family that could make us competitive is the Ricks (and not Ricks). I’m not sure what we have to do but I will abase myself. I know combs loves us but he’d have to give a significant chunk of his earnings. PMW could give us what heradvisors find beneath the couch cushions and we’d have a top g level team.

[AppSt94]

Our fanbase isn't built to meet the demands of this new era, myself included in that remark.

We often butt heads but I tend to agree with this. A large contingent of our fanbase is ok with upgrades, just don’t ask me to pay for it.

To be fair to our fans, stadium construction around the country is financed increasingly by public funds and not by fans themselves.

The panthers are giving David tapper $650MM in welfare for stadium upgrades.

If that would have been put on fans, they’d have to increase gate receipts by a minimum 50% to pay it off within 15 years at low interest rates.

We have a good number of folks that want to win and grouse when we aren’t that think the solution is for the Ricks, Sofield’s, Byers, Harrils and Combs of the world to just give more.

In the new world the only family that could make us competitive is the Ricks (and not Ricks). I’m not sure what we have to do but I will abase myself. I know combs loves us but he’d have to give a significant chunk of his earnings. PMW could give us what heradvisors find beneath the couch cushions and we’d have a top g level team.

PMW?

[BallantyneApp]

Pam mars

[AppSt94]

Pam mars

I suppose you could also ask Stephanie Blank.