Charlie Cobb dogs Brownie pregame radio

[AppGrad1]

Anyone else hear it?
He said he wished Brownie would say something positive about the team sometimes....
I love listening to Brownie. He knows his football and calls it like it is no matter whose fault.
Interesting......

[appst89]

Anyone else hear it?
He said he wished Brownie would say something positive about the team sometimes....
I love listening to Brownie. He knows his football and calls it like it is no matter whose fault.
Interesting......

Brownie has praised the team often, when it is warranted. I like it that he doesn't pull punches.

[App91]

Sounds like Chollie doesn't like the heat. Brownie calls a spade a spade, wonder if Chollie's tune changed after this game?

[1ASU78]

I wish Brownie would comment on the pregame, it is not very good, very lack luster. Loose the Eric Church concert trailer & I think the freaking music actually takes the fans out of the game. It does take the Marching Mountaineers out. Had a great lunch with family at a friends great mountain house. Headed to KBS ready to see some football and festivities. Long ride back to the Capital City.

[GoApps70]

Charlie Cobb and Satterfield both better be making some realistic comments so that we can pin down all the areas we need to improve or change. Without honesty you cannot raise the football program back to what it should be.

[appbio91]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

[WataugaMan]

Without honesty you cannot raise the football program back to what it should be.

Bingo, just tell it like it is. Sugarcoating will get you nowhere.

[GoAppsGo92]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

If you did not see a talented, physical, and experienced Chuck South team last night, you were not watching the game.

[Yosef84]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

[AppGrad1]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

Agree. This is the way I took it.

[Appstate_SunBelt]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

I don't think he lied, either. Here are my issues with it though.

1. We are definitely higher on the recruiting chain than both programs. How many of their talented kids wanted to come to App and we did not offer? There are 2-3 OL between CSU and NCAT I would love to have. Could they not get in App or did we not offer?

2. I knew these games would be much closer than previous years. Both of their HCs are very good and could be at big time programs in the next 2-3 years. A&T's coach was very good in previous stops and has proven to be very good at developing talent.

3. Cobb needs to be able to take criticism. I'm noticing that egos and entitlement are a huge problem around here. I'm at the point where things are clearly going downhill and for the good of the program attitudes by Scott, Charlie, and others either need to change or those people will eventually find themselves out of their current jobs. We have to work very hard and know that things will not always come easily.

I hope we rebound and don't lay down for everyone but the effort by many of our players makes me wonder how many of them have felt our coaches just don't have it. Many of them are saying the right things on camera but I have a feeling that's not how they all feel behind closed doors.

The Big South has gotten interesting because CCU is clearly good, GW is better, and now CSU has stepped up. While I know we can't always be a national title contender there is no excuse for us to be the 4th or 5th best team in the Big South and despite 16 starters back, preseason SoCon POY at QB, a loaded freshman class the last two years, and the entire OL back we haven't maintained or gotten better but have gotten worse and clearly taken a step back farther than we should have. I was expecting a 10-14 point loss to Montana, 14 point win against NC A&T, and a 10-12 point win over CSU. 10 points over Elon was about right but if we were a true power we would have won by 20 or so. I'm just saying that I knew we would not steam roll those teams because A&T and CSU are well coached but we should still win at KBS. That RB for CSU was very good and they have talent but there is no excuse for them to have more talent than we do. I guarantee you if we offered their HC our HC job he would take it in a heart beat. We have better facilities, more money, tradition, and basically better everything than those two programs right now so there is still no reason to lose to them at home.

[appbio91]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

The problem I have with that logic is that we have been saying that the FCS is a waste land. We have out grown it. You can't then turn around when you start losing and say the talent in the FCS has caught up to us. If that is the case we have a real problem for several years to come. I agree Brownie did aay the gap should be wider and I agree. But if you accept that A&T and Charleston So are on par with us the God bless us next year.

[bcoach]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

I don't think he lied, either. Here are my issues with it though.

1. We are definitely higher on the recruiting chain than both programs. How many of their talented kids wanted to come to App and we did not offer? There are 2-3 OL between CSU and NCAT I would love to have. Could they not get in App or did we not offer?

2. I knew these games would be much closer than previous years. Both of their HCs are very good and could be at big time programs in the next 2-3 years. A&T's coach was very good in previous stops and has proven to be very good at developing talent.

3. Cobb needs to be able to take criticism. I'm noticing that egos and entitlement are a huge problem around here. I'm at the point where things are clearly going downhill and for the good of the program attitudes by Scott, Charlie, and others either need to change or those people will eventually find themselves out of their current jobs. We have to work very hard and know that things will not always come easily.

I hope we rebound and don't lay down for everyone but the effort by many of our players makes me wonder how many of them have felt our coaches just don't have it. Many of them are saying the right things on camera but I have a feeling that's not how they all feel behind closed doors.

The Big South has gotten interesting because CCU is clearly good, GW is better, and now CSU has stepped up. While I know we can't always be a national title contender there is no excuse for us to be the 4th or 5th best team in the Big South and despite 16 starters back, preseason SoCon POY at QB, a loaded freshman class the last two years, and the entire OL back we haven't maintained or gotten better but have gotten worse and clearly taken a step back farther than we should have. I was expecting a 10-14 point loss to Montana, 14 point win against NC A&T, and a 10-12 point win over CSU. 10 points over Elon was about right but if we were a true power we would have won by 20 or so. I'm just saying that I knew we would not steam roll those teams because A&T and CSU are well coached but we should still win at KBS. That RB for CSU was very good and they have talent but there is no excuse for them to have more talent than we do. I guarantee you if we offered their HC our HC job he would take it in a heart beat. We have better facilities, more money, tradition, and basically better everything than those two programs right now so there is still no reason to lose to them at home.

I don't know if we have more money or not but if that is a fact then we just don't know how to spend it. If we have the money then I vote we hire a real strength and conditioning coach for one, and a real special teams coach for another. That is not the end of coaching money but it is a good start.

[Yosef84]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

The problem I have with that logic is that we have been saying that the FCS is a waste land. We have out grown it. You can't then turn around when you start losing and say the talent in the FCS has caught up to us. If that is the case we have a real problem for several years to come. I agree Brownie did aay the gap should be wider and I agree. But if you accept that A&T and Charleston So are on par with us the God bless us next year.

I think most people still believe that we have a significant edge at the skill positions. Obviously, it is the OL/DL lines that are in question and that caps what we get out of our skill players. That issue has been talked to death. Regarding the "outgrowning FCS" thing, I absolutely believe that this is true, and remains true. I posted this in a different thread earlier, but here it goes again: I do not believe that we have outgrown FCS because there is a lack of talent, or because nobody here can play us even or beat us. Wofford has proven that a small school can actually do that on a pretty consistent basis. My concern is that NOBODY can maintain a program a "steady state" basis. App has tremendous untapped potential, but the FCS puts limits on what we can achieve. IMO, we are ready for a bigger challenge and we need to remove the limitations of FCS/SoCon to achieve them. I have no disrespect for the FCS or the SoCon and I think we should all be proud of what we have achieved here.

We have been at the top for a long time. That can't be sustained. We will either move forward or backward. In FCS there really is no "forward" from where we've been, so I am looking forward to the future.....although yes....we obviously have some work to do.

[The Annoying Peasant]

So Charlie wants Brownie to put a happy face on the program.

Charlie Cobb claims to deal in the truth. The fact is Cobb can't handle the truth!

Appalachian State is a world that is surrounded by walls that guard our history and passion for truth. And those walls have to be guarded by men armed with conviction and driven by the courage to expose the truth. Who's gonna do it? Cobb? Beasley?

Steve Brown has a greater responsibility than Cobb can possibly fathom. Cobb weeps over the fact that truth will expose him. He curses people like Steve Brown who stands on principle and ethics.

Most App fans don't have the luxury of knowing what Steve knows. They depend on Steve to tell it like it is and exposing the state of Mountaineer Football, while painful, will ultimately save the program. And Steve's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to Cobb, keeps Mountaineer fans bound together in a state of unity and passion Cobb can't possibly understand.

Cobb doesn't want the truth. Because deep down, in places he won't talk about at alumni council meetings and Yosef Club gatherings, Mountaineer Fans want Steve Brown on that wall. They need Steve Brown on that wall.

Steve lives by words like honor, code, loyalty... he lives by these words because they are the backbone to a life spent defending something exceptional.... Appalachian State University. Cobb uses 'em as a punch line.

Steve doesn't need to spend the effort or time to explain himself to a man who makes a better salary than he deserves off a program Steve has played a part in since 1977. I'd rather Cobb just said thank you to Steve for his part in building this great program and for defending its integrity and then be on his way.

Otherwise, I suggest Cobb get behind that microphone and answer questions honestly. Either way, I don't give a damn that Cobb wants Steve to advance the company line in lieu of telling the truth to the Mountaineer Nation. Exposing the truth is far more important to Steve Brown than belonging to Cobb's inner circle.

[bcoach]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

The problem I have with that logic is that we have been saying that the FCS is a waste land. We have out grown it. You can't then turn around when you start losing and say the talent in the FCS has caught up to us. If that is the case we have a real problem for several years to come. I agree Brownie did aay the gap should be wider and I agree. But if you accept that A&T and Charleston So are on par with us the God bless us next year.

I think most people still believe that we have a significant edge at the skill positions. Obviously, it is the OL/DL lines that are in question and that caps what we get out of our skill players. That issue has been talked to death. Regarding the "outgrowning FCS" thing, I absolutely believe that this is true, and remains true. I posted this in a different thread earlier, but here it goes again: I do not believe that we have outgrown FCS because there is a lack of talent, or because nobody here can play us even or beat us. Wofford has proven that a small school can actually do that on a pretty consistent basis. My concern is that NOBODY can maintain a program a "steady state" basis. App has tremendous untapped potential, but the FCS puts limits on what we can achieve. IMO, we are ready for a bigger challenge and we need to remove the limitations of FCS/SoCon to achieve them. I have no disrespect for the FCS or the SoCon and I think we should all be proud of what we have achieved here.

We have been at the top for a long time. That can't be sustained. We will either move forward or backward. In FCS there really is no "forward" from where we've been, so I am looking forward to the future.....although yes....we obviously have some work to do.

Friendly discussion. What does that say for Alabama football or Duke Basketball. Can they not maintain a high level without going backwards? This is not a FBS/FCS fight as that is over. just a discussion to get my mind off the game

[Saint3333]

Alabama football

2003 - 4-9
1993 - 1-12
1984 - 5-6

Any of this look familiar?

[AppGrad1]

So Charlie wants Brownie to put a happy face on the program.

Charlie Cobb claims to deal in the truth. The fact is Cobb can't handle the truth!

Appalachian State is a world that is surrounded by walls that guard our history and passion for truth. And those walls have to be guarded by men armed with conviction and driven by the courage to expose the truth. Who's gonna do it? Cobb? Beasley?

Steve Brown has a greater responsibility than Cobb can possibly fathom. Cobb weeps over the fact that truth will expose him. He curses people like Steve Brown who stands on principle and ethics.

Most App fans don't have the luxury of knowing what Steve knows. They depend on Steve to tell it like it is and exposing the state of Mountaineer Football, while painful, will ultimately save the program. And Steve's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to Cobb, keeps Mountaineer fans bound together in a state of unity and passion Cobb can't possibly understand.

Cobb doesn't want the truth. Because deep down, in places he won't talk about at alumni council meetings and Yosef Club gatherings, Mountaineer Fans want Steve Brown on that wall. They need Steve Brown on that wall.

Steve lives by words like honor, code, loyalty... he lives by these words because they are the backbone to a life spent defending something exceptional.... Appalachian State University. Cobb uses 'em as a punch line.

Steve doesn't need to spend the effort or time to explain himself to a man who makes a better salary than he deserves off a program Steve has played a part in since 1977. I'd rather Cobb just said thank you to Steve for his part in building this great program and for defending its integrity and then be on his way.

Otherwise, I suggest Cobb get behind that microphone and answer questions honestly. Either way, I don't give a damn that Cobb wants Steve to advance the company line in lieu of telling the truth to the Mountaineer Nation. Exposing the truth is far more important to Steve Brown than belonging to Cobb's inner circle.

I see what you did there. Nice play on the movie...

[appbio91]

A fan called in post game and flat railed on the coaching staff. Brownie lied and said the talent gap between us and A&T and Chas So was not as wide as you think. He defended the caoches. So there Charlie.

I don't think he lied. People have an exagerated sense of the talent gap. I think he was trying to say that A&T and CSU both have more talent than people think. We think of them as bottom dwellers, but that is no longer the case. He also pretty clearly indicated that he thought the talent gap SHOULD be bigger, although he didn't dwell on it. Brownie was just giving credit where credit is due.

The problem I have with that logic is that we have been saying that the FCS is a waste land. We have out grown it. You can't then turn around when you start losing and say the talent in the FCS has caught up to us. If that is the case we have a real problem for several years to come. I agree Brownie did aay the gap should be wider and I agree. But if you accept that A&T and Charleston So are on par with us the God bless us next year.

I think most people still believe that we have a significant edge at the skill positions. Obviously, it is the OL/DL lines that are in question and that caps what we get out of our skill players. That issue has been talked to death. Regarding the "outgrowning FCS" thing, I absolutely believe that this is true, and remains true. I posted this in a different thread earlier, but here it goes again: I do not believe that we have outgrown FCS because there is a lack of talent, or because nobody here can play us even or beat us. Wofford has proven that a small school can actually do that on a pretty consistent basis. My concern is that NOBODY can maintain a program a "steady state" basis. App has tremendous untapped potential, but the FCS puts limits on what we can achieve. IMO, we are ready for a bigger challenge and we need to remove the limitations of FCS/SoCon to achieve them. I have no disrespect for the FCS or the SoCon and I think we should all be proud of what we have achieved here.

We have been at the top for a long time. That can't be sustained. We will either move forward or backward. In FCS there really is no "forward" from where we've been, so I am looking forward to the future.....although yes....we obviously have some work to do.

Although I don't agree 100% with you, well said and I am on board. I agree we have bright future.

[bcoach]

Alabama football

2003 - 4-9
1993 - 1-12
1984 - 5-6

Any of this look familiar?

Damn Saint, you forgot to state what they did in 1901.