The Browns parted ways with the All-Time Greatest Mountaineer today.

Heal up and train hard! We'll always be your fans!

Does anyone else think that perhaps had he not been injured a few weeks ago, that he would have still remained on the roster?

I think there's a good chance he'd be the starting QB in Cleveland if not for his injury. They're suiting up the water boy to throw the ball this week.

We all know he is a pre-season practice warrior so if he heals OK would think he will get on with some team this coming season.

I love the guy but it is probably time to either go to Canada or put his degree to use.

bcoach wrote:I love the guy but it is probably time to either go to Canada or put his degree to use.

I agree. It sure doesn't appear that he has a future in the NFL.

If he had not gotten the hamstring injury in the preseason with the Panthers he would probably still be in Charlotte.

I figure he has one more shot at this point. I think he appeared to show a glimmer of promise before he got injured. Promise as in he could be someones number 3 or 4 WR.

It's time for AE to concentrate on rehab and getting back to 100% plus he needs to soul search and decide what he really wants to do. Play QB again or stay at WR. And where. If he wants to play QB again or even make sure he sees the field then go north. If he wants to stay in the NFL then he and his agent need to sit down and look at the rosters of all the teams except the Panthers, see which ones need the most help at WR, and shop himself to them. After the season is over one of those teams will add him to the roster and he'll have a chance to make a team with a shot at seeing playing time. Hard choices ahead. I wish him nothing but the best and will follow him no matter where he decides to go.

Has it ever been stated what he did to his ankle? - all I have seen is "ankle injury" - he was put on IR by Cleveland so here is my question - He was waived by Cleveland and let's say his ankle is OK can he still play this year for another team? --- I understand this certainly isn't going to happen I'm just posing a question ---

And today Steve Smith goes down with what looks like a pretty serious knee injury.

Too bad AE wasn't still on the Panthers roster.

Check that Smitty ok - wow. He's a tough sob

Check that again, 1 play and Smitty limps off.

I wanted to cry when Hixon caught the game winning TD today. Couldn't help but think that could have so easily been Armanti making that catch.

What is the rule for getting a pension from the NFL? Isn't it 4 full seasons? This is his 4th.

I think it might be 3 years now.

http://nflalumniasssociation.files.word ... t-plan.pdf

Check out page 6. I am not sure if this is the most recent document however.

I really thought AE could have a nice time of it in the League, boy have I have been wrong so far. No doubt he has made good money, but I thought he could contribute on the field the way he toyed with the talent at the FCS level. Hope he can get another chance to make me right.

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:I think it might be 3 years now.

http://nflalumniasssociation.files.word ... t-plan.pdf

Check out page 6. I am not sure if this is the most recent document however.

Also this 2011 document concerning "Legacy Players"...

Posted Nov. 14, 2011 @ 11:29 p.m. ET
By PFW staff

The NFL and NFLPA have reached an agreement on how to distribute the $620 million Legacy Fund, designed to help retired players from the '60s, '70s and '80s, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wrote in a letter to NFL fans Monday.

Players whose pensions were vested before 1993 will all see benefit increases, with those vested before 1975 receiving the biggest increases. For example, a 10-year veteran who retired in the 1960s would see his pension increase from $200 to $1,840.

Benefits for retired players were a major issue during the collective-bargaining negotiations between players and owners during the summer. Retired players at one point threatened their own lawsuit to make sure they were taken care of.

The full text of Goodell's letter is quoted below:

To NFL Fans:

We hope you are enjoying the NFL season. The playoff race is shaping up and promises to bring even more excitement as we head into the holiday season. My purpose in writing now is to update you on steps we are taking to help our older retired players — the heroes of the 60s, 70s, and 80s who deserve great credit for their role in building the NFL into what it is today.

These players did something for the game of football. Now it's our turn to do something for them.

It's easy to say we appreciate them. But our actions need to tell the same story. That's why we are proud of the agreement we reached with the union this week on how to distribute the $620 million Legacy Fund set aside in our new collective bargaining agreement. It means we will begin paying higher benefits immediately to all retired players whose pensions vested before 1993.

This new Legacy Fund benefit has three important components:

Every player will receive a major pension increase. We have significantly raised the pension floor of minimum monthly payments.
Players whose pensions vested before 1975 — the players who played for the lowest salaries — are getting the biggest increase.

The Legacy Fund benefits will continue not only for the lifetime of the retired player, but also for the lifetime of his eligible beneficiary.
The formula for distributing the $620 million fund was designed after we discussed it with leaders of several retired player groups, including Mike Ditka, Carl Eller, Bruce Laird, Willie Lanier, George Martin and Ron Mix. The new benefit applies to more than 4,700 players who were vested in the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Player Pension Plan prior to 1993.

Here are two examples of how the Legacy Fund will significantly increase monthly pension payments to many retired players:

There is a 10-year veteran player who retired in the 1960s who has been receiving a $200 monthly pension. The Legacy Fund benefit will increase his monthly check to $1,840.
Another 10-year veteran who retired in the 1970s will see his monthly check increase from $165 to $1,810.

Nothing we do or say can ever fully express our appreciation for the dedicated players who built the NFL. But I believe that the Legacy Fund is an important step in the right direction. Paired with our efforts to set a higher standard for player health and safety, it represents the shared commitment and responsibility of the National Football League and its players to improve the lives of the men who played the game yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

— Roger Goodell

asu66 wrote:

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:I think it might be 3 years now.

http://nflalumniasssociation.files.word ... t-plan.pdf

Check out page 6. I am not sure if this is the most recent document however.

Also this 2011 document concerning "Legacy Players"...

Posted Nov. 14, 2011 @ 11:29 p.m. ET
By PFW staff

The NFL and NFLPA have reached an agreement on how to distribute the $620 million Legacy Fund, designed to help retired players from the '60s, '70s and '80s, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wrote in a letter to NFL fans Monday.

Players whose pensions were vested before 1993 will all see benefit increases, with those vested before 1975 receiving the biggest increases. For example, a 10-year veteran who retired in the 1960s would see his pension increase from $200 to $1,840.

Benefits for retired players were a major issue during the collective-bargaining negotiations between players and owners during the summer. Retired players at one point threatened their own lawsuit to make sure they were taken care of.

The full text of Goodell's letter is quoted below:

To NFL Fans:

We hope you are enjoying the NFL season. The playoff race is shaping up and promises to bring even more excitement as we head into the holiday season. My purpose in writing now is to update you on steps we are taking to help our older retired players — the heroes of the 60s, 70s, and 80s who deserve great credit for their role in building the NFL into what it is today.

These players did something for the game of football. Now it's our turn to do something for them.

It's easy to say we appreciate them. But our actions need to tell the same story. That's why we are proud of the agreement we reached with the union this week on how to distribute the $620 million Legacy Fund set aside in our new collective bargaining agreement. It means we will begin paying higher benefits immediately to all retired players whose pensions vested before 1993.

This new Legacy Fund benefit has three important components:

Every player will receive a major pension increase. We have significantly raised the pension floor of minimum monthly payments.
Players whose pensions vested before 1975 — the players who played for the lowest salaries — are getting the biggest increase.

The Legacy Fund benefits will continue not only for the lifetime of the retired player, but also for the lifetime of his eligible beneficiary.
The formula for distributing the $620 million fund was designed after we discussed it with leaders of several retired player groups, including Mike Ditka, Carl Eller, Bruce Laird, Willie Lanier, George Martin and Ron Mix. The new benefit applies to more than 4,700 players who were vested in the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Player Pension Plan prior to 1993.

Here are two examples of how the Legacy Fund will significantly increase monthly pension payments to many retired players:

There is a 10-year veteran player who retired in the 1960s who has been receiving a $200 monthly pension. The Legacy Fund benefit will increase his monthly check to $1,840.
Another 10-year veteran who retired in the 1970s will see his monthly check increase from $165 to $1,810.

Nothing we do or say can ever fully express our appreciation for the dedicated players who built the NFL. But I believe that the Legacy Fund is an important step in the right direction. Paired with our efforts to set a higher standard for player health and safety, it represents the shared commitment and responsibility of the National Football League and its players to improve the lives of the men who played the game yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

— Roger Goodell

Less than $2000 a month for an NFL player? That is a joke.

JCline0429 wrote:

asu66 wrote:

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:I think it might be 3 years now.

http://nflalumniasssociation.files.word ... t-plan.pdf

Check out page 6. I am not sure if this is the most recent document however.

Also this 2011 document concerning "Legacy Players"...

Posted Nov. 14, 2011 @ 11:29 p.m. ET
By PFW staff

The NFL and NFLPA have reached an agreement on how to distribute the $620 million Legacy Fund, designed to help retired players from the '60s, '70s and '80s, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wrote in a letter to NFL fans Monday.

Players whose pensions were vested before 1993 will all see benefit increases, with those vested before 1975 receiving the biggest increases. For example, a 10-year veteran who retired in the 1960s would see his pension increase from $200 to $1,840.

Benefits for retired players were a major issue during the collective-bargaining negotiations between players and owners during the summer. Retired players at one point threatened their own lawsuit to make sure they were taken care of.

The full text of Goodell's letter is quoted below:

To NFL Fans:

We hope you are enjoying the NFL season. The playoff race is shaping up and promises to bring even more excitement as we head into the holiday season. My purpose in writing now is to update you on steps we are taking to help our older retired players — the heroes of the 60s, 70s, and 80s who deserve great credit for their role in building the NFL into what it is today.

These players did something for the game of football. Now it's our turn to do something for them.

It's easy to say we appreciate them. But our actions need to tell the same story. That's why we are proud of the agreement we reached with the union this week on how to distribute the $620 million Legacy Fund set aside in our new collective bargaining agreement. It means we will begin paying higher benefits immediately to all retired players whose pensions vested before 1993.

This new Legacy Fund benefit has three important components:

Every player will receive a major pension increase. We have significantly raised the pension floor of minimum monthly payments.
Players whose pensions vested before 1975 — the players who played for the lowest salaries — are getting the biggest increase.

The Legacy Fund benefits will continue not only for the lifetime of the retired player, but also for the lifetime of his eligible beneficiary.
The formula for distributing the $620 million fund was designed after we discussed it with leaders of several retired player groups, including Mike Ditka, Carl Eller, Bruce Laird, Willie Lanier, George Martin and Ron Mix. The new benefit applies to more than 4,700 players who were vested in the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Player Pension Plan prior to 1993.

Here are two examples of how the Legacy Fund will significantly increase monthly pension payments to many retired players:

There is a 10-year veteran player who retired in the 1960s who has been receiving a $200 monthly pension. The Legacy Fund benefit will increase his monthly check to $1,840.
Another 10-year veteran who retired in the 1970s will see his monthly check increase from $165 to $1,810.

Nothing we do or say can ever fully express our appreciation for the dedicated players who built the NFL. But I believe that the Legacy Fund is an important step in the right direction. Paired with our efforts to set a higher standard for player health and safety, it represents the shared commitment and responsibility of the National Football League and its players to improve the lives of the men who played the game yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

— Roger Goodell

Less than $2000 a month for an NFL player? That is a joke.

Yes it is a joke, but so are the scmuck that often latch onto these players and advise and and invest their money for them. Their are finacial graveyards for many professional athletes that made enough money to burn a wet mule during their playing time.

These players are gifted with talent, but sometimes the other end of the see-saw from talent is touching the ground on common sense.

I am much more worried about a teachers or cops pension than I am a NFL players pension.

bcoach wrote:I am much more worried about a teachers or cops pension than I am a NFL players pension.

I agree 100 percent.