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Re: The ASU coaching search and potential candidates to disc
The last two basketball coaching searches have been downright Laney-esque. If Cobb screws the pooch on this one his days should be numbered contract extension or not. Wonder if Dr. Nolen-Everts will have any input into this decision?
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Thanks for the kind words, Chuck! I hope im wrong about the process, but our past history with these hires has me worried.asu66 wrote:"I think Cobb might be floating the idea that Matt would turn down the job to cover himself for not going after McMahon. I know he would be interested in the job if he was a candidate."Unless you have concrete proof that Charlie is out floating trial balloons about someone he doesn't want to hire (M.McMahon); I think you should keep it to yourself lest you hurt Matt's chances. I happen to believe what you seem to believe. I believe Matt is interested and would consider accepting the job if the salary and contract terms were acceptable to him. Attributing unfounded, negative acts to Charlie could hurt Matt in the long term.Hey, I know Mark Harrell. Mark Harrell is NO friend of mine. You, JTApps1, are no Mark Harrell. I'd never make the mistake of putting you and he in the same category.If I thought Matt had any shot at getting an interview I wouldn't say it, but I know he hasnt been given a shot. Matt told my dad he would be interested if offered. He bleeds black and gold, and wants the program to succeed. From everything Im hearing Cobb already picked his man. I seriously doubt my post will have any impact on the hire. Who do you think I am Chuck, Mark Harrell?![]()
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Well, lay it on us man. A lot of us are like me--hearing almost nothing! Where's that search committee C.Cobb was going to put together. Where are the job advertisements? You kinda need those for a true NATIONAL SEARCH?From everything I'm hearing Cobb already picked his man.
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To those Duggar Baucom supporters like myself. Send Charlie Cobb an email saying he is worth a look. It can't hurt anything:asu66 wrote:He applied twice before as I understand it from one of his friends. The first time was when Cobb finally begged Buzz enough times to get him to return. The second time, obviously, was when the now infamous Capel experiment was tried. I'm told he's never received the courtesy of a phone call or letter from anyone in the athletic department. Maybe the third time will get him a look.spong wrote:Duggar Baucom was an assistant coach at Northwestern State which is in the heart of the Sun Belt Conference. He also was an assistant at Western which means he is familiar with Mountaineer culture.
This might be a stretch but I would hope this would help him appeal to Charlie Cobb. Duggar Baucom is my favorite candidate. He has done a very good job in a very difficult situation at VMI. We could get him at a price that won't break the bank. We should have enough revenue leftover to build a good coaching staff around him and have a recruiting budget. He knows how to build a program and his style of play would get students fans from down the mountain in the HCC to see.
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Stories like this, along with some of the bizarre public statements this time around, start to paint the picture of amateur hour in the AD.asu66 wrote:He applied twice before as I understand it from one of his friends. The first time was when Cobb finally begged Buzz enough times to get him to return. The second time, obviously, was when the now infamous Capel experiment was tried. I'm told he's never received the courtesy of a phone call or letter from anyone in the athletic department. Maybe the third time will get him a look.spong wrote:Duggar Baucom was an assistant coach at Northwestern State which is in the heart of the Sun Belt Conference. He also was an assistant at Western which means he is familiar with Mountaineer culture.
This might be a stretch but I would hope this would help him appeal to Charlie Cobb. Duggar Baucom is my favorite candidate. He has done a very good job in a very difficult situation at VMI. We could get him at a price that won't break the bank. We should have enough revenue leftover to build a good coaching staff around him and have a recruiting budget. He knows how to build a program and his style of play would get students fans from down the mountain in the HCC to see.
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Appsolutley wrote:Coach K was heard singing as he left the arena: "Oh, mercer, mercer me...things ain't like they used to be."newtoasu wrote:While they are now out thanks to....Mercer (?), the future SoCon team replacing App.bcoach wrote:Everyone needs to just calm down. CC has made a decision but can't talk till the tournament is over or at least till K is out. Oh crap I let it out. CC is going to kill me. Now Duke is going to fight to keep him and we will have to give him even more money.
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John Settle received the same treatment during the football "search". ASU's all time leading rusher, member of the HOF, big time Yosef donor for as long as I can remember and one of the most beloved Mountaineers in history doesn't even receive the courtesy of a stinking phone call. It's questionable if we will even have an athletic department by the time we can get rid of Cobb.asu66 wrote:He applied twice before as I understand it from one of his friends. The first time was when Cobb finally begged Buzz enough times to get him to return. The second time, obviously, was when the now infamous Capel experiment was tried. I'm told he's never received the courtesy of a phone call or letter from anyone in the athletic department. Maybe the third time will get him a look.spong wrote:Duggar Baucom was an assistant coach at Northwestern State which is in the heart of the Sun Belt Conference. He also was an assistant at Western which means he is familiar with Mountaineer culture.
This might be a stretch but I would hope this would help him appeal to Charlie Cobb. Duggar Baucom is my favorite candidate. He has done a very good job in a very difficult situation at VMI. We could get him at a price that won't break the bank. We should have enough revenue leftover to build a good coaching staff around him and have a recruiting budget. He knows how to build a program and his style of play would get students fans from down the mountain in the HCC to see.
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How is anyone going to be able to reasonably judge this next hire for at least 2 to 3 years? ---appst89 wrote:The last two basketball coaching searches have been downright Laney-esque. If Cobb screws the pooch on this one his days should be numbered contract extension or not. Wonder if Dr. Nolen-Everts will have any input into this decision?
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Exactly. . We will all know when the record speaks for an extension for the coach or the firing of both coach and the AD.
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Mike Rhoades is now available to talk coaching vacancies.
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So he is.AppinVA wrote:Mike Rhoades is now available to talk coaching vacancies.
As was mentioned by someone a few days ago, Brad Underwood, the coach at SFASU would be a good candidate. The problem is that this is just his first year in Nacogdoches. I doubt he'd be willing to leave for any amount of $$$$ after the season they're having. Just picked up their 29th straight win--knocking VCU out of the tourney.
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Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
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Lets be serious. Why would it mention us? If he is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation why would it mention us? If we want to be taken seriously on this board we need to get a little more realistic. We are at the absolute bottom and need to start from scratch. He is not one who needs to start from scratch. A lot of good names have been mentioned on here he just is not in that group.spong wrote:Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
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For anybody that is interested, here is a link to see the second half of the VMI/IPFW game.
At halftime, VMI leads 51-42. It has been a back and forth game most of the first half with VMI hitting some shots at the end of the first half to take the nine point lead. This one has Digger Baucom and Tony Jasick, two guys who have been discussed on here.
http://www.watchcollegeinsider.com/medi ... M_ID=29600
At halftime, VMI leads 51-42. It has been a back and forth game most of the first half with VMI hitting some shots at the end of the first half to take the nine point lead. This one has Digger Baucom and Tony Jasick, two guys who have been discussed on here.
http://www.watchcollegeinsider.com/medi ... M_ID=29600
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Thanks for this!!!spong wrote:To those Duggar Baucom supporters like myself. Send Charlie Cobb an email saying he is worth a look. It can't hurt anything:asu66 wrote:He applied twice before as I understand it from one of his friends. The first time was when Cobb finally begged Buzz enough times to get him to return. The second time, obviously, was when the now infamous Capel experiment was tried. I'm told he's never received the courtesy of a phone call or letter from anyone in the athletic department. Maybe the third time will get him a look.spong wrote:Duggar Baucom was an assistant coach at Northwestern State which is in the heart of the Sun Belt Conference. He also was an assistant at Western which means he is familiar with Mountaineer culture.
This might be a stretch but I would hope this would help him appeal to Charlie Cobb. Duggar Baucom is my favorite candidate. He has done a very good job in a very difficult situation at VMI. We could get him at a price that won't break the bank. We should have enough revenue leftover to build a good coaching staff around him and have a recruiting budget. He knows how to build a program and his style of play would get students fans from down the mountain in the HCC to see.
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Well in fairness, that article appears to be just idle speculation, devoid of any actual reporting.spong wrote:Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
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If we got Matt, Lutz, Baucom or Rhodes I think most of us would be very happy. From a recruiting perspective all but Matt would have a leg up. Our current assistants are not worth keeping
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Sooooooooooooo, to follow your line of thinking, we should set our expectations lower? That's exactly why our basketball program is a bottom-feeder. Because the bar has been set so low that we're sucking bottom like mere scavengers.bcoach wrote:Lets be serious. Why would it mention us? If he is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation why would it mention us? If we want to be taken seriously on this board we need to get a little more realistic. We are at the absolute bottom and need to start from scratch. He is not one who needs to start from scratch. A lot of good names have been mentioned on here he just is not in that group.spong wrote:Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
If you'll read the article again, you'll find UNC-W mentioned in the speculation about Rhoades. Their program is in far worse condition than ours. They're borrowing money to pay Peterson to clean out his desk two years early. Then, they're going to have to borrow more to hire a new coaching staff. Nice!
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Actually I only needed to read it one time and it is silly for UNCW to be mentioned also but I really don't care who their coach is or will be. My line of thinking has nothing to do with lower expectations. My expectations would be much higher than we have now. I just think sometimes we say things on here that are not realistic. Plenty of good and realistic names have been mentioned. Guys like Rhoades and Greenberg being suggested is just not realistic.asu66 wrote:Sooooooooooooo, to follow your line of thinking, we should set our expectations lower? That's exactly why our basketball program is a bottom-feeder. Because the bar has been set so low that we're sucking bottom like mere scavengers.bcoach wrote:Lets be serious. Why would it mention us? If he is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation why would it mention us? If we want to be taken seriously on this board we need to get a little more realistic. We are at the absolute bottom and need to start from scratch. He is not one who needs to start from scratch. A lot of good names have been mentioned on here he just is not in that group.spong wrote:Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
If you'll read the article again, you'll find UNC-W mentioned in the speculation about Rhoades. Their program is in far worse condition than ours. They're borrowing money to pay Peterson to clean out his desk two years early. Then, they're going to have to borrow more to hire a new coaching staff. Nice!
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Why is a Division I assistant coach not realistic? Our worst enemy is our "we can't" attitude.bcoach wrote:Actually I only needed to read it one time and it is silly for UNCW to be mentioned also but I really don't care who their coach is or will be. My line of thinking has nothing to do with lower expectations. My expectations would be much higher than we have now. I just think sometimes we say things on here that are not realistic. Plenty of good and realistic names have been mentioned. Guys like Rhoades and Greenberg being suggested is just not realistic.asu66 wrote:Sooooooooooooo, to follow your line of thinking, we should set our expectations lower? That's exactly why our basketball program is a bottom-feeder. Because the bar has been set so low that we're sucking bottom like mere scavengers.bcoach wrote:Lets be serious. Why would it mention us? If he is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation why would it mention us? If we want to be taken seriously on this board we need to get a little more realistic. We are at the absolute bottom and need to start from scratch. He is not one who needs to start from scratch. A lot of good names have been mentioned on here he just is not in that group.spong wrote:Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
If you'll read the article again, you'll find UNC-W mentioned in the speculation about Rhoades. Their program is in far worse condition than ours. They're borrowing money to pay Peterson to clean out his desk two years early. Then, they're going to have to borrow more to hire a new coaching staff. Nice!
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That's fine go get him.AppinVA wrote:Why is a Division I assistant coach not realistic? Our worst enemy is our "we can't" attitude.bcoach wrote:Actually I only needed to read it one time and it is silly for UNCW to be mentioned also but I really don't care who their coach is or will be. My line of thinking has nothing to do with lower expectations. My expectations would be much higher than we have now. I just think sometimes we say things on here that are not realistic. Plenty of good and realistic names have been mentioned. Guys like Rhoades and Greenberg being suggested is just not realistic.asu66 wrote:Sooooooooooooo, to follow your line of thinking, we should set our expectations lower? That's exactly why our basketball program is a bottom-feeder. Because the bar has been set so low that we're sucking bottom like mere scavengers.bcoach wrote:Lets be serious. Why would it mention us? If he is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation why would it mention us? If we want to be taken seriously on this board we need to get a little more realistic. We are at the absolute bottom and need to start from scratch. He is not one who needs to start from scratch. A lot of good names have been mentioned on here he just is not in that group.spong wrote:Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):
http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching
If you'll read the article again, you'll find UNC-W mentioned in the speculation about Rhoades. Their program is in far worse condition than ours. They're borrowing money to pay Peterson to clean out his desk two years early. Then, they're going to have to borrow more to hire a new coaching staff. Nice!