The ASU coaching search and potential candidates to discuss

[AppinVA]

If App wants to pay me to do so. I'm only about 15 miles from the VCU campus.

[bcoach]

If App wants to pay me to do so. I'm only about 15 miles from the VCU campus.

I think that leaves two problems that will not get solved
1 Your pay
2 His pay

[AppinVA]

If App wants to pay me to do so. I'm only about 15 miles from the VCU campus.

I think that leaves two problems that will not get solved
1 Your pay
2 His pay

Neither is an example of "can't". They're examples of "won't". The former is smart, while the latter isn't.

[asu66]

Mike Rhoades is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation (the article mentions UNCW but not App?):

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2014/3/2 ... t-coaching

Lets be serious. Why would it mention us? If he is the hottest coaching commodity in the nation why would it mention us? If we want to be taken seriously on this board we need to get a little more realistic. We are at the absolute bottom and need to start from scratch. He is not one who needs to start from scratch. A lot of good names have been mentioned on here he just is not in that group.

Sooooooooooooo, to follow your line of thinking, we should set our expectations lower? That's exactly why our basketball program is a bottom-feeder. Because the bar has been set so low that we're sucking bottom like mere scavengers.

If you'll read the article again, you'll find UNC-W mentioned in the speculation about Rhoades. Their program is in far worse condition than ours. They're borrowing money to pay Peterson to clean out his desk two years early. Then, they're going to have to borrow more to hire a new coaching staff. Nice!

Actually I only needed to read it one time and it is silly for UNCW to be mentioned also but I really don't care who their coach is or will be. My line of thinking has nothing to do with lower expectations. My expectations would be much higher than we have now. I just think sometimes we say things on here that are not realistic. Plenty of good and realistic names have been mentioned. Guys like Rhoades and Greenberg being suggested is just not realistic.

Pearl was always unrealistic. He was always biding his time for the first multi-million-dollar gig south of the Mason-Dixon Line to come open. He got it. He's fallen in love with the big $$$, warm south.

Rhoades and Greenberg are very different. Rhoades is on the way up, but he's never coached a D-I game anywhere as a head coach; and he's never won a D-I game on his own. Greenberg is on the way down in coaching; in fact, unless he's willing to take a promotion and building job like ASU (which is what he does best), he's finished as a collegiate head coach. He had a losing record in C-USA at USF; and a losing record in the ACC at VPI; and he's made more enemies than friends in the coaching profession. He's an ego-centric, walking-talking F-bomb New-Yorker. And he's become his own worst enemy "on the bench."

Rhoades does have a lot of selling points. He'll go out on his own when he finds a place he wants to live that has a job big enough for his ego. He's never lived anywhere but in PA and in VA.

Greenberg has a lot of coaching knowledge and experience--and a foul mouth. He is where he's gonna be. On TV! (He knows to keep it clean when the red camera lights are on!)

[EastHallApp]

Rhoades is an A-10 assistant who's never been a HC. Based on his current job, there is absolutely no reason to think it would be unrealistic for App to hire him.

Now, if he has an offer that's clearly better, or if Shaka leaves and he's offered the VCU job, that's different. Or it's possible he might see the challenges at App and decide to wait for the next opportunity. But based on his resume, he's exactly the kind of candidate who usually fills openings at our level.

[moehler]

all you need to know about Greenberg is how he dealt with Seth Curry. Curry went to Greenberg and said he wanted to play for VT. Greenberg told him he didn't think he was good enough, and if he wanted to walkon he could do that. Seth said no thanks and that stupidity on Greenberg's part was Davidson's good fortune.

[wncapp78]

I'm a layman but for me, when I look at the recruits, the win-loss record, the NCAA bids received, I find Mike Young a more logical choice than the VMI coach, but I'd be pleased with the VMI coach as well.

[asutrnr81]

Based on a review of records, what I can find out about them, what I know about them, and reading about them my list would be:

IN NO ORDER!

Matt
Baucom
Young
Rhoades
Lutz

Like each for different reasons and believe each would give us a chance at getting better soon.

[HkyMtneer]

all you need to know about Greenberg is how he dealt with Seth Curry. Curry went to Greenberg and said he wanted to play for VT. Greenberg told him he didn't think he was good enough, and if he wanted to walkon he could do that. Seth said no thanks and that stupidity on Greenberg's part was Davidson's good fortune.

You mean Steph Curry?

[Boone Goon]

Am I missing something?? How has Chuck not made an offer to someone yet? It's not like Jason Capel's contract expiration snuck up on him! Shouldn't he have been working on this decision for the last 6 months?

And please don't try and tell me we're waiting on xx xxx to finish in the tournament before we can introduce him. So what's the hold up?

[firemoose]

Here's more fodder for the group. Thought it might be interesting discussion material since we were only supposed to be looking for coaches with HC experience. I'm checking more coaching sites to see if there is any truth to these rumors.

Coaching Rumors ‏@coaching_rumors
App State has been in contact with Assistants from SC, Clemson, GT, Alabama, and UGA in regards to their open HC position.

[IGgreer]

Charlie Cobb, ladies and gentlemen.

[HeffnerIV]

Am I missing something?? How has Chuck not made an offer to someone yet? It's not like Jason Capel's contract expiration snuck up on him! Shouldn't he have been working on this decision for the last 6 months?

And please don't try and tell me we're waiting on xx xxx to finish in the tournament before we can introduce him. So what's the hold up?

Because everyone would complain that he didn't conduct a national search based on a committee's recommendation(s). That's not to say I know anything- I don't.

[Saint3333]

IG is going to complain no matter what happens. That is the only thing about this search I am 100% on.

[falcoapp]

Charlie wrote me back regarding Metro State coach Derrick Clark.

"Thanks for sharing."

[IGgreer]

IG is going to complain no matter what happens. That is the only thing about this search I am 100% on.

no doubt.

[EastHallApp]

Here's more fodder for the group. Thought it might be interesting discussion material since we were only supposed to be looking for coaches with HC experience. I'm checking more coaching sites to see if there is any truth to these rumors.

Coaching Rumors ‏@coaching_rumors
App State has been in contact with Assistants from SC, Clemson, GT, Alabama, and UGA in regards to their open HC position.

Do we ever consider assistants from programs that, you know, win?

[JTApps1]

Here's more fodder for the group. Thought it might be interesting discussion material since we were only supposed to be looking for coaches with HC experience. I'm checking more coaching sites to see if there is any truth to these rumors.

Coaching Rumors ‏@coaching_rumors
App State has been in contact with Assistants from SC, Clemson, GT, Alabama, and UGA in regards to their open HC position.

I wonder if we reached out to them, or if these assistants contacted us? Like you said, most of these coaches don't fit any of the requirements laid out by Cobb so why would we pursue them? Also, if we are contacting these coaches then we should also reach out to Matt.

[bcoach]

Here's more fodder for the group. Thought it might be interesting discussion material since we were only supposed to be looking for coaches with HC experience. I'm checking more coaching sites to see if there is any truth to these rumors.

Coaching Rumors ‏@coaching_rumors
App State has been in contact with Assistants from SC, Clemson, GT, Alabama, and UGA in regards to their open HC position.

I wonder if we reached out to them, or if these assistants contacted us? Like you said, most of these coaches don't fit any of the requirements laid out by Cobb so why would we pursue them? Also, if we are contacting these coaches then we should also reach out to Matt.

I think the honest answer is there may be a difference between what he announced as requirements and what he is actually doing.

[1ASU78]

Chris Jans
Just got back home from the dance. A winner at every head coach stop and now winner assistant Shockers head coach

http://www.goshockers.com/ViewArticle.d ... LID=898911