App Receiving Votes…No Longer Just One

[Saint3333]

GS going 2-6 from FT helped last game.

[AppStFan1]

We seem to have two voters who have us at 24. Wow!

Yup. Dave Preston and JB Ricks both have us at 24 on their ballots.

[AppStFan1]

Mid-Major Poll has us up to 4 after Gonzaga and Princeton both took a loss. I agree with this top 5. Saint Mary's has beaten Gonzaga and has had a tough schedule so i don't mind them ahead of us with 6 losses. If not for the NIU and Oregon State losses I bet we would be #1 though.

Mens Mid Major Top 25® Update Date: February 05,2024
RECORD POINTS PREVIOUS
1 Indiana State (21) 20-3 759 1 Missouri Valley
2 Saint Mary's (5) 18-6 722 4 West Coast
3 Grand Canyon (3) 21-2 710 3 Western Athletic
4 Appalachian State 19-4 639 6 Southern
5 High Point 20-4 638 9 Big South
6 Princeton 16-3 541 5 Ivy League
7 Gonzaga (2) 16-6 523 2 West Coast
8 James Madison 20-3 520 10 Sun Belt
9 Cornell 17-3 492 11 Ivy League
10 McNeese 19-3 467 8 Southland
11 Samford 20-3 453 12 Southern
12 Drake 18-5 445 7 Missouri Valley
13 UC Irvine 17-6 374 13 Big West
14 Vermont 18-5 373 14 America East
15 Akron 17-5 371 15 Mid-American
16 San Francisco 18-6 359 16 West Coast
17 Yale 15-6 296 21 Ivy League
18 Louisiana Tech 16-6 231 20 CUSA
19 UNCG 17-6 203 22 Southern
20 Bradley 17-6 162 NR (26) Missouri Valley
21 Drexel 15-8 141 19 Coastal Athletic
22 UNCW 16-6 125 24 Coastal Athletic
23 Morehead State 18-5 73 NR (29) Ohio Valley
24 Green Bay 15-9 68 NR (34) Horizon
25 Quinnipiac 18-4 63 NR (28) Metro Atlantic

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Charleston 43, Oakland 38, Santa Clara 34, UC San Diego 30, Western Carolina 30, Eastern Washington 28, Norfolk State 23, Toledo 18, Liberty 17, Eastern Kentucky 15, Central Michigan 11, Troy 11, Colgate 7, UNC Asheville 6, North Carolina Central 5, Youngstown State 4, Southern Illinois 3, Louisiana 2, UMass Lowell 2, UC Davis 1.

[AppOrange]

someone needs to tell this dude we are in the Sun Belt

[ah59396]

Mid-Major Poll has us up to 4 after Gonzaga and Princeton both took a loss. I agree with this top 5. Saint Mary's has beaten Gonzaga and has had a tough schedule so i don't mind them ahead of us with 6 losses. If not for the NIU and Oregon State losses I bet we would be #1 though.

Mens Mid Major Top 25® Update Date: February 05,2024
RECORD POINTS PREVIOUS
1 Indiana State (21) 20-3 759 1 Missouri Valley
2 Saint Mary's (5) 18-6 722 4 West Coast
3 Grand Canyon (3) 21-2 710 3 Western Athletic
4 Appalachian State 19-4 639 6 Southern
5 High Point 20-4 638 9 Big South
6 Princeton 16-3 541 5 Ivy League
7 Gonzaga (2) 16-6 523 2 West Coast
8 James Madison 20-3 520 10 Sun Belt
9 Cornell 17-3 492 11 Ivy League
10 McNeese 19-3 467 8 Southland
11 Samford 20-3 453 12 Southern
12 Drake 18-5 445 7 Missouri Valley
13 UC Irvine 17-6 374 13 Big West
14 Vermont 18-5 373 14 America East
15 Akron 17-5 371 15 Mid-American
16 San Francisco 18-6 359 16 West Coast
17 Yale 15-6 296 21 Ivy League
18 Louisiana Tech 16-6 231 20 CUSA
19 UNCG 17-6 203 22 Southern
20 Bradley 17-6 162 NR (26) Missouri Valley
21 Drexel 15-8 141 19 Coastal Athletic
22 UNCW 16-6 125 24 Coastal Athletic
23 Morehead State 18-5 73 NR (29) Ohio Valley
24 Green Bay 15-9 68 NR (34) Horizon
25 Quinnipiac 18-4 63 NR (28) Metro Atlantic

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Charleston 43, Oakland 38, Santa Clara 34, UC San Diego 30, Western Carolina 30, Eastern Washington 28, Norfolk State 23, Toledo 18, Liberty 17, Eastern Kentucky 15, Central Michigan 11, Troy 11, Colgate 7, UNC Asheville 6, North Carolina Central 5, Youngstown State 4, Southern Illinois 3, Louisiana 2, UMass Lowell 2, UC Davis 1.

The NIU loss has been devastating to our NET ranking. They are far and away our worst loss.

They are 5-14 with a ranking of 287 in NET. They are the (1) in our 10-1 quad 4 record.

Oregon State, Troy, and Asheville all have respectable mid-100 rankings.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Seems fairly obvious that the only way a good mid major like App can safely get an at large bid is to schedule (if possible) and beat 2-3 good power conference teams. Those couple of glorified scrimmage games are meaningless other than giving us a tuneup or 2. The in state peer games (UNCW, A and Queens) are fun but you better win them. That being said had we beaten NIU but lost to Auburn would our NET be lower? Seems like we really can't do much about it on average unless some of our Belt teams improve and pull their weight.

[Saint3333]

Do I wish we hadn't lost to NIU and UNCA, sure, but this team is so much fun to watch. I haven't planned mid-week meals around App basketball in over a decade. Enjoying the ride for the next month until I get anxious for the SBC tournament.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Do I wish we hadn't lost to NIU and UNCA, sure, but this team is so much fun to watch. I haven't planned mid-week meals around App basketball in over a decade. Enjoying the ride for the next month until I get anxious for the SBC tournament.

I hear you. I wish we were played on Wednesday and Saturday as it's a long week til Thursday. I haven't enjoyed basketball like this in many years.

[BambooRdApp]

Do I wish we hadn't lost to NIU and UNCA, sure, but this team is so much fun to watch. I haven't planned mid-week meals around App basketball in over a decade. Enjoying the ride for the next month until I get anxious for the SBC tournament.

I hear you. I wish we were played on Wednesday and Saturday as it's a long week til Thursday. I haven't enjoyed basketball like this in many years.

May want to check your TV listings for Wednesday this week

[Bigdaddyg1]

Do I wish we hadn't lost to NIU and UNCA, sure, but this team is so much fun to watch. I haven't planned mid-week meals around App basketball in over a decade. Enjoying the ride for the next month until I get anxious for the SBC tournament.

I hear you. I wish we were played on Wednesday and Saturday as it's a long week til Thursday. I haven't enjoyed basketball like this in many years.

May want to check your TV listings for Wednesday this week

Thanks for the heads up. I'd have been upset had I not looked. Seems like it's generally Thursday and Saturday but I guess we've had some Wednesday games.

[BambooRdApp]

Do I wish we hadn't lost to NIU and UNCA, sure, but this team is so much fun to watch. I haven't planned mid-week meals around App basketball in over a decade. Enjoying the ride for the next month until I get anxious for the SBC tournament.

I hear you. I wish we were played on Wednesday and Saturday as it's a long week til Thursday. I haven't enjoyed basketball like this in many years.

May want to check your TV listings for Wednesday this week

Thanks for the heads up. I'd have been upset had I not looked. Seems like it's generally Thursday and Saturday but I guess we've had some Wednesday games.

Agreed. I have App. St. as a favorite on ESPN app. So the next game pops up the day after the last one ended. I guess ESPN could be wrong, however, I have not had issues in the past

[AppOrange]

I know a loss is a loss, but to me, its just the NIU game that truly stands out as a stinker. UNCA was a fluke with a guy that had a once in a generation performance. One could say we should have guarded him closer, but the D was not bad, dude was jacking up 3s from all over the place, guarded. It was just his night . . . you know, everyone hits 8 threes in a half.

[ah59396]

I know a loss is a loss, but to me, its just the NIU game that truly stands out as a stinker. UNCA was a fluke with a guy that had a once in a generation performance. One could say we should have guarded him closer, but the D was not bad, dude was jacking up 3s from all over the place, guarded. It was just his night . . . you know, everyone hits 8 threes in a half.

I share this same opinion. The UNCA player went nuclear. We played a mediocre game and would beat them 19/20 times.

I have no idea how we lost to NIU. 2nd game of the season rust, I guess.

[Bootsy]

I don't like it anymore than you, but what's done is done. Let's focus on going 1-0 tomorrow night.

[Bigdaddyg1]

College basketball is nutty. Kansas killed a good Houston team and loses to middle of the conference K State. Ga Tech beats Duke and UNC and getting whipped at home to Wake. Just finish strong

[agentpaul001]

Seems fairly obvious that the only way a good mid major like App can safely get an at large bid is to schedule (if possible) and beat 2-3 good power conference teams. Those couple of glorified scrimmage games are meaningless other than giving us a tuneup or 2. The in state peer games (UNCW, A and Queens) are fun but you better win them. That being said had we beaten NIU but lost to Auburn would our NET be lower? Seems like we really can't do much about it on average unless some of our Belt teams improve and pull their weight.

Yah ideally 2+ P5 teams and then 3+ solid mid majors (good A10 programs for example). Ideally some additional opportunities with an early season tournament.

The 2007 season was one of the few that was in that arena, look at these teams:
Clemson, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, Virginia, and Vanderbilt. College of Charleston, UCF, VCU, and Wichita State. Not to mention a good Davidson team.

Another tournament appearance would go a long ways toward helping scheduling.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Seems fairly obvious that the only way a good mid major like App can safely get an at large bid is to schedule (if possible) and beat 2-3 good power conference teams. Those couple of glorified scrimmage games are meaningless other than giving us a tuneup or 2. The in state peer games (UNCW, A and Queens) are fun but you better win them. That being said had we beaten NIU but lost to Auburn would our NET be lower? Seems like we really can't do much about it on average unless some of our Belt teams improve and pull their weight.

Yah ideally 2+ P5 teams and then 3+ solid mid majors (good A10 programs for example). Ideally some additional opportunities with an early season tournament.

The 2007 season was one of the few that was in that arena, look at these teams:
Clemson, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, Virginia, and Vanderbilt. College of Charleston, UCF, VCU, and Wichita State. Not to mention a good Davidson team.

Another tournament appearance would go a long ways toward helping scheduling.

A lot has been said about our location, airport access, etc. It's got to be difficult for a good mid major program to entice any power conference team (Auburn) to come to Boone as there is really no incentive for them to do it, especially during the week. There aren't but so many weekends available before conference games begin for everyone. Looks like you need to get into one or two of the good early season tournaments but the flip side is that even a win or two gets forgotten about by February in the minds of the committee and the other powers that be. A surprising win by a decent to good mid major over a good power team is usually written off as an early season surprise. Is Auburn's loss to us hurting them at all?

[APPdiesel]

I wonder how this season will affect our scheduling going forward. Maybe eliminate or reduce the D2 games and parlay Auburn coming in into getting another high major to come in.

[hapapp]

I wonder how this season will affect our scheduling going forward. Maybe eliminate or reduce the D2 games and parlay Auburn coming in into getting another high major to come in.

Beating Auburn on national television may actually make any high majors reticent to come to Boone.

[APPdiesel]

I wonder how this season will affect our scheduling going forward. Maybe eliminate or reduce the D2 games and parlay Auburn coming in into getting another high major to come in.

Beating Auburn on national television may actually make any high majors reticent to come to Boone.

As if they weren’t already? Mid major status will always hurt our scheduling more than one win.

If nothing else maybe it’ll get us consideration for better early season tournaments and maybe relationships and deals can be struck from there.