Urban Meyer says 8 team playoff won't work

YesAppCan · Unread post by **YesAppCan** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:49 pm

Urban seems to be vying to further separate P-5 from the rest of us IMO... 110 scholarships , really?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/urban-meye ... 39424.html

Watauga72 · Unread post by **Watauga72** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:56 pm

Frankly, that is a BS argument. If he were coaching TCU right now he'd be arguing that an 8 team playoff means only one more game and would ensure that all deserving teams were included....as long as they were from the P5 conferences. It's a level playing field as far as scholarship numbers...all D-1 teams have the same (but not equal) opportunity to bring in the same number of players. Any argument stating that adding one more game for a very limited number of teams is absurd.

appbanker · Unread post by **appbanker** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:14 pm

I agree it's a BS argument. How were we able to win 3 National Championships in a row with only 63 scholarships?

Goapps15 · Unread post by **Goapps15** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:02 pm

My main problem with an 8 team playoff is that there are not always 8 deserving teams. This year there were 6 deserving teams. #7 Mississippi State got annihilated by GT. #8 Michigan St had a huge comeback or else we would be saying the same thing about them. #9 Ole Miss (who may have jumped Sparty if there were 8 teams) got beat 42-3 by #6 TCU.

If they are going to use an 8 team playoff the (P5) conference champions should be auto bids into the field. The last 3 spots should be split up between the conferences based on the best teams left at that point. This would be the most fair way to go about things. That way every (P5) conference has a team in the playoff. I would also like to see the top (G5) school (if ranked top 20) get an auto bid in the future as well. This way the (G5) has a shot to compete with the big boys if they earn it.

Just my .02

AppDawg · Unread post by **AppDawg** » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:54 pm

Goapps15 wrote:My main problem with an 8 team playoff is that there are not always 8 deserving teams. This year there were 6 deserving teams. #7 Mississippi State got annihilated by GT. #8 Michigan St had a huge comeback or else we would be saying the same thing about them. #9 Ole Miss (who may have jumped Sparty if there were 8 teams) got beat 42-3 by #6 TCU.

If they are going to use an 8 team playoff the (P5) conference champions should be auto bids into the field. The last 3 spots should be split up between the conferences based on the best teams left at that point. This would be the most fair way to go about things. That way every (P5) conference has a team in the playoff. I would also like to see the top (G5) school (if ranked top 20) get an auto bid in the future as well. This way the (G5) has a shot to compete with the big boys if they earn it.

Just my .02

I like this and is what I have been saying for years. Only one small change, the best G5 gets an Auto-bid, period regardless of "rank". That leaves 2 more spots for at-large P5s.

As soon as you put a qualification on "if ranked in top 20", the pollsters would ensure that didn't happen.

newtoasu · Unread post by **newtoasu** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:33 am

Goapps15 wrote:My main problem with an 8 team playoff is that there are not always 8 deserving teams. This year there were 6 deserving teams. #7 Mississippi State got annihilated by GT. #8 Michigan St had a huge comeback or else we would be saying the same thing about them. #9 Ole Miss (who may have jumped Sparty if there were 8 teams) got beat 42-3 by #6 TCU.

If they are going to use an 8 team playoff the (P5) conference champions should be auto bids into the field. The last 3 spots should be split up between the conferences based on the best teams left at that point. This would be the most fair way to go about things. That way every (P5) conference has a team in the playoff. I would also like to see the top (G5) school (if ranked top 20) get an auto bid in the future as well. This way the (G5) has a shot to compete with the big boys if they earn it.

Just my .02

Yes, but the #8 team with the huge comeback did it against the team that would have been #5 or #6. So if you make the argument that Baylor at #6 should be in the playoff, then the #8 team that beat them should probably be there as well.

newtoasu · Unread post by **newtoasu** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:35 am

Urban Meyer says 8 team playoff won't work,

Says the man with a team in the top 4. Put him at #5 and ask his opinion. I'm pretty sure he would find a way to get at least 5 teams in!

Cincy App · Unread post by **Cincy App** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:10 am

I respect Urban Meyer but 110 scholarships is ridiculous. NFL does it with an active roster of 53 of which only 46 can dress.

HeffnerIV · Unread post by **HeffnerIV** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:27 am

newtoasu wrote:
Urban Meyer says 8 team playoff won't work,
Says the man with a team in the top 4. Put him at #5 and ask his opinion. I'm pretty sure he would find a way to get at least 5 teams in!

Ding, ding. Meyer, whose team is in the playoffs despite plenty who think they should not have had the opportunity to play Monday night. It's akin to Nick Saban essentially wanting the spread outlawed, or Jason Garrett having no issue with the picked-up flag on Sunday- it benefits them at this moment. Flip the roles, and.....

Goapps15 · Unread post by **Goapps15** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:07 am

Does the SEC win every national championship for 7 years straight if there was a 4 team playoff?

Just a thought. My gut feeling is no.

appfanz · Unread post by **appfanz** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:00 pm

I heard the same interview live and the first thing I thought of was our 3 championships playing 15 games with many less scholarships. I don't remember it being a problem then.......

proasu89 · Unread post by **proasu89** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:18 pm

appfanz wrote:I heard the same interview live and the first thing I thought of was our 3 championships playing 15 games with many less scholarships. I don't remember it being a problem then.......

Not defending Urban but our winning with 63 is irrelevant because we were only competing against other 63 schollie teams to win the Championship. That being said, 110 is rediculous.

YesAppCan · Unread post by **YesAppCan** » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:27 pm

FBS is competing 85-85 now. Urban is trying to set the stage to separate p-5 from G-5. Also, if it's so damn unfair to the players, cut a game off the regular season schedule. Me thinks Urban is full of $#I+!

appmaj · Unread post by **appmaj** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:21 am

Maybe he should quit this job to spend more time with his family.

Niner National · Unread post by **Niner National** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:42 am

110 scholarships would ruin the G5. If that ever happens, we might as well just split off and have our own system because G5 schools won't be able to compete financially or on the field.

This won't happen though because it'll be a financial disaster for some P5 schools too. Sure schools like OSU, SEC schools, Texas, and a handful of other schools can easily foot the bill, but not every P5 school has FU money to piss away on 4 year bench players.

Saint3333 · Unread post by **Saint3333** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:52 am

Sounds like 1978 all over again.

App joined division 1 in 1974, eight years later joined 1-AA.

I can see it happening again. If it does this time I hope they institute minimums at the second level.

APPARJ · Unread post by **APPARJ** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:16 am

Having a G5 autobid in an 8-team playoff would be ridiculous. It's a waste of a spot for a much more deserving P5 team.

G5 should play a G5 playoff and leave the P5s to themselves. The chasm between P5 schools and G5 schools is enormous and just because we all share the "B" in the FBS status does not make us contemporaries.

Saint3333 · Unread post by **Saint3333** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:19 am

Herbstreet is that you?

APPARJ · Unread post by **APPARJ** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:23 am

Saint3333 wrote:Herbstreet is that you?

Herbstreit* and if you're objective, you'll know I'm absolutely right.

bigdaddyg · Unread post by **bigdaddyg** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:32 am

If I'm not mistaken don't all schools only dress out a far fewer number of the total scholarship players on game day? If there were 110 how many would be red-shirted or is that separate? Reducing the season by 1 game screws all but 2 teams. The max that a majority of the schools will play is 13 (for those who get a bowl bid). As much as I would love to see the playoff reach 8 with a G5 getting a bid that really isn't the best way to do it. Generally speaking, the best G5 probably would not realistically be the #8 team nationally. As much as I would love to see App get the #8 seed in a playoff, I would hate to see us get demolished on national TV by someone like OSU. The 4 team system really worked out fine. My feeling is that if any change is made it should possibly go to 6 with the top 2 receiving a bye, but the downside to that plan would be the Bowl piece- how do you do it? Extending the season by another game is just too much but money talks and I would not be surprised by any move at this point. We are going to reach a point where winning a conference won't mean much and winning a crappy bowl will mean even less if you are a G5.

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