40-50 years may not be out of the realm of possibility.CoachRob wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:05 amWhen were the tiers decided??? I can see where 40-50 years ago, App would be in that lower tier with Western and P. However, it is definitely time for an adjustment to give App more funding as we have out grown that tier and need to at least be on the same level as UNCG & W. Does sound like this is a political issue that can be addressed. Whether or not the blame goes to Chapel Hill is still up for debate. Either way, App needs this win Saturday in a big way for the football program and athletic department and hope they can pull it out.mikeyosef wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:29 amThis string has been very enlightening. I was completely unaware how disadvantaged our University is compared to in-state peer institutions with regard to state funding. I don't think winning football games will change anything in Raleigh unless fans gained also have connections with the Governor, House and Senate leaders. Let's talk turkey here; who do we start contacting in Raleigh to get this reassessment on the docket? I can promise you, in politics, the squeaky wheel does indeed get the grease. Or in our case, the money.AppDawg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:55 pmWe do not have “some” of the lowest funding per student in the UNC System. We have the LOWEST and have for many years. What I have recently learned is that it stems from a decades old “pooling” that occurred within the UNC System/Legislature whereby all state universities were split into 3 Tiers. We fell into the lowest tier and are associated with the likes of WCU & Pembroke.CoachRob wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:09 pmI don't totally disagree with you. However; and not that it really matters in the whole scheme of things but for correction on your comment; I financially support App through both the Yosef club and with football season tickets. I haven't given 1 dime to UNC basketball, football or any other sport when it comes to tickets, funding or anything really. So to say I don't put App 1st just because I don't buy the "UNC wants to destroy App by keeping away funds" is very false. You'll find me wearing my Black & Gold Saturday in Keenan if you're there.
I do find it discouragement that App has some of the lowest funding in the State and would love to find out the true reasoning App receives less. And not just less than UNC, but Wilmington, Greensboro, Charlotte and others. But whether there are App fans who turn on their TVs to watch ACC basketball or not isn't going to change this at all. I just find it a stretch to believe that App receives the least amount of funding solely because "UNC is trying it's best to keep App down and prevent it from becoming a football power". A stretch unless you are just really wanting to find a justifiable reason for your already developed hate.
State, CH, ECU, Science & Math are the top tier.
Our leaders are fighting and have been fighting for over 20 years to have the tiers reassessed so that at a minimum we will be on par with the unc-G & UNCW.
Just $2k more per student is an additional $40M in annual funding for App and puts us on “equal” footing annually with G and dub on a per student basis.
On another note, my father went to Carolina and before going to App I pulled for everything UNC. While there I pulled for UNC to win the National Championship in BB as I pulled for NC State to win the next year. As an App graduate, my blood runs Black and Gold and I want us to beat the pants off of anyone we play but particularly in-state schools. I can't wait for Saturday and fully expect our boys will be victorious and I hope it's by a WIDE margin. Regardless, on Sunday, I'll be wearing my App gear around town as usual. If it comes out the way I think, I'll just have a little bigger smile on my face.
My understanding is that it was well before my time at App which started in ‘99. We had some very influential folks involved with BOG during the early/mid 2000’s including the Peacock years and the boulder was unable to be budged.