NEW UNIFORMS!!!

[Kgfish]

I'm sure this has already been said, but IMO we could wear yellow jerseys with yellow pants, yellow helmets, yellow socks, yellow shoes, yellow armbands, and yellow towels if it meant 17-18 year old kids liked it. I know it's probably never THE reason guys commit, but it can't hurt to try to appease the target audience.

For the record, I love the new look, especially black on black and white on white. Not a huge fan of the grey or the black/white and white/black combos. Also, count me as one who is a fan of the new helmets. Love the matte AND the black block A. I think it will stand out with the yellow outline more than most people seem to. Overall I'm very pleased. I think we are really trying to look the FBS part.

I just wonder how the new logo will show up on TV. The white A is very easy to recognize from a distance and on TV, but this logo will probably get lost on the black helmet.

Worse yet, how will that logo look stuck to the window of an SUV, especially one with tinted windows?

I'm with you. One classic block A for everything and one Yosef logo everywhere. It seems like getting the new logo helmets will be an unnecessary expense. I doubt the old ones could be recycled and having new logos put on, as they probably require new helmets altogehter.

Also, from a visibility standpoint those outlined logos will not show up well from high level TV camera shots, or the stands.

[3rd]

I'm sure this has already been said, but IMO we could wear yellow jerseys with yellow pants, yellow helmets, yellow socks, yellow shoes, yellow armbands, and yellow towels if it meant 17-18 year old kids liked it. I know it's probably never THE reason guys commit, but it can't hurt to try to appease the target audience.

For the record, I love the new look, especially black on black and white on white. Not a huge fan of the grey or the black/white and white/black combos. Also, count me as one who is a fan of the new helmets. Love the matte AND the black block A. I think it will stand out with the yellow outline more than most people seem to. Overall I'm very pleased. I think we are really trying to look the FBS part.

I just wonder how the new logo will show up on TV. The white A is very easy to recognize from a distance and on TV, but this logo will probably get lost on the black helmet.

Worse yet, how will that logo look stuck to the window of an SUV, especially one with tinted windows?

I'm with you. One classic block A for everything and one Yosef logo everywhere. It seems like getting the new logo helmets will be an unnecessary expense. I doubt the old ones could be recycled and having new logos put on, as they probably require new helmets altogehter.

Also, from a visibility standpoint those outlined logos will not show up well from high level TV camera shots, or the stands.

You know what they will already look like on TV? You know the future?

[TheMoody1]

"If it ain't broke don't fix it."

If that was the way those in charge thought we would still be in the SoCon.

[Gonzo]

Old southern men afraid of change blah blah blah

The world moves forward.

[Kgfish]

Old southern men afraid of change blah blah blah

The world moves forward.

Young know it all with no respect for tradition or history. yada yada yada

Boy, you need to have better insight before you start shooting off your mouth. Some of those "Old Southern Men" have been at the forefront of change at ASU years before you were born.

[Kgfish]

You know what they will already look like on TV? You know the future?

Check back with me later and apologize for that statement.

[3rd]

You know what they will already look like on TV? You know the future?

Check back with me later and apologize for that statement.

The white block A looks like a white dot when your far enough away

[Gonzo]

Old southern men afraid of change blah blah blah

The world moves forward.

Young know it all with no respect for tradition or history. yada yada yada

Boy, you need to have better insight before you start shooting off your mouth. Some of those "Old Southern Men" have been at the forefront of change at ASU years before you were born.

Hey no offense, buddy. It just gets very tiresome to read the same perpetual buzzkill from the same handful of posters.

I truly respect the commitment and perspective of the old guard. I'm just glad y'all don't make subdivision and jersey decisions.

And I'm not that young.

[Maddog1956]

I'm fine with the jerseys. Would maybe like a little more yellow on them but I like these fine. I DON'T like the black "A" logo. Wish they would have left that. Not a big fan of the matte helmet but can live with it. Honestly I like Nike gear, but not a big fan of most of their football uniforms.

Yellow! Proof positive the younger alumni have no clue what our REAL colors are.

I agree I always thought it was Black and Gold not Black and Yellow!

[8993]

Can we stop with the "we did this when I was there, so you're wrong" stuff? There is no reason for us all to argue over a logo, one that is not and will not be the official logo. The logo has been slightly altered for our football uniforms, maybe for a season, maybe for ten... none of us really know. Does that mean there should be a riff between those that graduated in 1985 and 2013? No. We need to be looking forward to what's ahead, like our SoCon farewell tour, our future in the FBS, and hopefully many bowl games to come. With all of that said, it's a logo. It may not be the logo from 1940, 1960, 1980, or any other year, but that does not mean that us younger Mountaineers cannot have a say in what the future of our team looks like. Everybody should and likely has had a say in the creation of these logos and uniforms. So, lets talk about the uniforms, not argue about which graduating class had the best logo.

[appmandan]

8993,
This is the classic "you can make some of the people happy all the time, but you can never make all the people happy all the time." Everyone will have their own opinions

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the absence of one little sticker that was on the helmets this past year. Anyone else notice there's NO SoCon logo this year! How cool is that? I really like the 3-D block A on the exterior part of the forehead pad where the SoCon logo use to be. It will be interesting to see how long they stay in one piece on the OL and DL.

[Kgfish]

You know what they will already look like on TV? You know the future?

Check back with me later and apologize for that statement.

The white block A looks like a white dot when your far enough away

Your eyes must really be bad!

[Kgfish]

Old southern men afraid of change blah blah blah

The world moves forward.

Young know it all with no respect for tradition or history. yada yada yada

Boy, you need to have better insight before you start shooting off your mouth. Some of those "Old Southern Men" have been at the forefront of change at ASU years before you were born.

Hey no offense, buddy. It just gets very tiresome to read the same perpetual buzzkill from the same handful of posters.

I truly respect the commitment and perspective of the old guard. I'm just glad y'all don't make subdivision and jersey decisions.

And I'm not that young.

No offense taken. It's all in good fun. I enjoy the banter.

As previously stated - unnoticed by you - the butchering of our beloved logo aside I have zero problems with the uniforms. Although I would like to see a bigger Appalachian without the State. FYI this old Southern Man was anti 1-AA / FCS before you knew where Boone NC was. If people like me were calling the shots ASU would be at the same level as ECU or at the very least Marshall today.

[Kgfish]

Can we stop with the "we did this when I was there, so you're wrong" stuff? There is no reason for us all to argue over a logo, one that is not and will not be the official logo. The logo has been slightly altered for our football uniforms, maybe for a season, maybe for ten... none of us really know. Does that mean there should be a riff between those that graduated in 1985 and 2013? No. We need to be looking forward to what's ahead, like our SoCon farewell tour, our future in the FBS, and hopefully many bowl games to come. With all of that said, it's a logo. It may not be the logo from 1940, 1960, 1980, or any other year, but that does not mean that us younger Mountaineers cannot have a say in what the future of our team looks like. Everybody should and likely has had a say in the creation of these logos and uniforms. So, lets talk about the uniforms, not argue about which graduating class had the best logo.

There is no argument. It ain't even close, the class of 1975 had the best looking uniforms!

[ASUMountaineer]

I'm sure this has already been said, but IMO we could wear yellow jerseys with yellow pants, yellow helmets, yellow socks, yellow shoes, yellow armbands, and yellow towels if it meant 17-18 year old kids liked it. I know it's probably never THE reason guys commit, but it can't hurt to try to appease the target audience.

For the record, I love the new look, especially black on black and white on white. Not a huge fan of the grey or the black/white and white/black combos. Also, count me as one who is a fan of the new helmets. Love the matte AND the black block A. I think it will stand out with the yellow outline more than most people seem to. Overall I'm very pleased. I think we are really trying to look the FBS part.

I just wonder how the new logo will show up on TV. The white A is very easy to recognize from a distance and on TV, but this logo will probably get lost on the black helmet.

Worse yet, how will that logo look stuck to the window of an SUV, especially one with tinted windows?

Why do you think it's a permanent change for all logos?

[ASUMountaineer]

I said before (which you didn't respond to), I had no idea it would trigger such deep emotion for you.

Sorry but I don't see where you quoted me and referenced this. You have only responded to me personally twice and the first time you posted this quote by DaphneUrquhart - "So far, Appalachian State doesn't really have a national "brand". I did not make that statement.

Yup, it was there. I know that you didn't post that by Daphne, something funky happened with the quoting.

Are we actually changing the logo for good? Will they remove the Block A from the sides of the Athletics Center to put up black Block A's? Will every use of the white Block A cease and be replaced with the black Block A? Or, are they just using it on a uniform? I'm surprised it has stirred up this much emotion for you. When did the block A come into existence as a logo for the university?

[ASUMountaineer]

Old southern men afraid of change blah blah blah

The world moves forward.

Young know it all with no respect for tradition or history. yada yada yada

Boy, you need to have better insight before you start shooting off your mouth. Some of those "Old Southern Men" have been at the forefront of change at ASU years before you were born.

So, you agree that our yellar version of gold is now "tradition?" It's older than the current white block A.

[asumike83]

Just playing devil's advocate a bit here but couldn't it be argued that changing and evolving is just as much a part of Appalachian's football history as any one logo?

[AppGrad78]

I'm sure this has already been said, but IMO we could wear yellow jerseys with yellow pants, yellow helmets, yellow socks, yellow shoes, yellow armbands, and yellow towels if it meant 17-18 year old kids liked it. I know it's probably never THE reason guys commit, but it can't hurt to try to appease the target audience.

For the record, I love the new look, especially black on black and white on white. Not a huge fan of the grey or the black/white and white/black combos. Also, count me as one who is a fan of the new helmets. Love the matte AND the black block A. I think it will stand out with the yellow outline more than most people seem to. Overall I'm very pleased. I think we are really trying to look the FBS part.

I just wonder how the new logo will show up on TV. The white A is very easy to recognize from a distance and on TV, but this logo will probably get lost on the black helmet.

Worse yet, how will that logo look stuck to the window of an SUV, especially one with tinted windows?

Why do you think it's a permanent change for all logos?

I hope it's not. If this is a change merely to the block A on the football helmets, then the priceless "look" and brand awareness we've created over the past three decades can be easily re-done once this fad runs its course. If this is a sweeping brand change throughout the athletics department (which I don't think it is), then we've made another misstep in the name of trendiness, faux marketing and change-for-change sake.

The way I look at it, it could have been worse. We could be Maryland or North Carolina or Oregon or any number of schools that uses this gimmick to boost retail sales. We took a fairly modest approach to this phenomenon. I'm disappointed that we followed the herd, but comforted in knowing that it could have been worse.

[appst89]

I don't really see this as a big deal. The Block A is our prominent logo, and that hasn't changed at all. I have a shirt with a white Block A, I have one with a gray Block A, and I have one with a yaller block A. The common thing is that it's the Appalachian Block A. I think this fuss is much ado about nothing, but that's just my opinion.