Should App continue playing SoCon schools?

[JCline0429]

We will continue to schedule 1 FCS home game a year.

We should schedule the FCS team that we can get up here the cheapest that will bring the most fans.

The candidates will be A&T, ETSU, and G-Webb. CCU would be a good one on the years they don't play USC or Clemson.

WCU needs money and if their travel to App is less expensive than it would be to some other higher paying FBS opponents. With the relationship of our leaders and coaches and theirs the WCU fans may be disappointed that a future game if more likely to occur than they wish.

We must schedule SoCon teams in baseball and basketball as well.

That's interesting, many on here were griping about playing A&T

[JCline0429]

Since the athletic department has already stated that we will schedule one FCS team each year I think a SoCon team should be the first option. Having a team our fans are familiar with will be important to keep interest up for the game which obviously mean more revenue. At first it may be tough do to the current payouts teams are getting from P5 schools, but there is a lot of reason to believe that money will dry up. Citadel just signed on to play at GSU so I don't see why we wouldn't be able to do the same.

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[moehler]

ya, that's the strangest thing about this story, I cant think of one reason why any Catamount fan would not want to continue the rivalry, atleast in some limited fashion. I know if the roles were reversed, I would hope App would find a way to play them in the future....weird.

[JCline0429]

After reading over the two WCU boards as well as AGS, it surprises me that Can't fans are almost unanimous in their opinion that, if the WCU administration ever consents to a unilateral football game between App and Western in the future, they will stop donating to the school, burn all their purple and cut ties with their alma mater forever.

Seems a little dramatic.

A few posters on the Catamount Pride board do not represent the WCU fandom as a whole. I mean it's not like they are the Gallop Poll or something. I know plenty who want the series to continue even though it will likely always be in Boone.

[AppState89]

Now we are in the same shoes as teams like Wake. They won't play us. We will now need to play a FCS team we can beat. Doesn't look good for a FBS team to get beat by a FCS team. Just saying....

[YesAppCan]

[quote="Gonzo"]After reading over the two WCU boards as well as AGS, it surprises me that Can't fans are almost unanimous in their opinion that, if the WCU administration ever consents to a unilateral football game between App and Western in the future, they will stop donating to the school, burn all their purple and cut ties with their alma mater forever.

Seems a little dramatic.

Eliminating those "fans" will be a step in the right direction for Western.

[Maddog1956]

A few posters on the Catamount Pride board do not represent the WCU fandom as a whole. I mean it's not like they are the Gallop Poll or something. I know plenty who want the series to continue even though it will likely always be in Boone.

I agree, most boards just reflect the attitude of the board and nothing larger can be drawn. It's kind of like reading The Blaze and concluding that everyone is hoarding gold.

[Maddog1956]

To me it's kind of like telling the team "the ref's don't like us", after his statement I don't see why any kid on the team would give 100%, after all "we're just paid to be here to show up".

Please keep in mind what a coach says to the press can and usually is totally different than what is discussed within the confines of a team meeting ---[/quote]

True, but the last time I checked most of their players could read. I can hear that team meeting now ..."We're not really hookers, we just play one on TV".

[Gonzo]

A few posters on the Catamount Pride board do not represent the WCU fandom as a whole. I mean it's not like they are the Gallop Poll or something. I know plenty who want the series to continue even though it will likely always be in Boone.

I agree, most boards just reflect the attitude of the board and nothing larger can be drawn. It's kind of like reading The Blaze and concluding that everyone is hoarding gold.

Fair enough, but I'm still shocked by the fact that virtually all of that sample (albeit a small sample, but likely one of the most die hard subgroups of their overall fan base) have concluded that they're DONE with WCU forever if they agree to play us again.

That's some strong language. I'd be surprised to see only a few of them agree on that, let alone the lot of them.

What would it take for you to renounce App State forever? I think it would be a little more than our administration symbolically conceding that we're second fiddle to some other NC school, even though it's been painfully obvious to everyone else for 20+ years.

[bcoach]

We will continue to schedule 1 FCS home game a year.

We should schedule the FCS team that we can get up here the cheapest that will bring the most fans.

The candidates will be A&T, ETSU, and G-Webb. CCU would be a good one on the years they don't play USC or Clemson.

WCU needs money and if their travel to App is less expensive than it would be to some other higher paying FBS opponents. With the relationship of our leaders and coaches and theirs the WCU fans may be disappointed that a future game if more likely to occur than they wish.

We must schedule SoCon teams in baseball and basketball as well.

This hits the nail on the head. One exception though. I never as long as I live want to see A&T in Boone again.

[fjblair]

We are going to play an FCS team, I don't care where they come from as we are done with the Woffords of the world.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

We are just about guaranteed to have at least one FCS opponent every year if we intend to keep playing six home games. I say offer the game to the SoCon schools and if they don't want it, then there are lots of other FCS schools in the region that will take it. ETSU, Gardner-Webb, Coastal Carolina, NC A&T, NCCU, SC State; I think any of those would take the game.

I wouldn't mind William (aka Bill) and Mary, or Richmond either.

W&M has a 1-2 advantage on us. I would like that turned around. Furman has a few games on us as well. Play them a few more times at least. If we are going to play FCS, and we will be, then those two are on the top of my list for the next few years.

[AppfaninCAALand]

A few posters on the Catamount Pride board do not represent the WCU fandom as a whole. I mean it's not like they are the Gallop Poll or something. I know plenty who want the series to continue even though it will likely always be in Boone.

I agree, most boards just reflect the attitude of the board and nothing larger can be drawn. It's kind of like reading The Blaze and concluding that everyone is hoarding gold.

Aren't you hoarding gold? everyone else is, you better get on that.

[AppfaninCAALand]

We are just about guaranteed to have at least one FCS opponent every year if we intend to keep playing six home games. I say offer the game to the SoCon schools and if they don't want it, then there are lots of other FCS schools in the region that will take it. ETSU, Gardner-Webb, Coastal Carolina, NC A&T, NCCU, SC State; I think any of those would take the game.

I wouldn't mind William (aka Bill) and Mary, or Richmond either.

W&M has a 1-2 advantage on us. I would like that turned around. Furman has a few games on us as well. Play them a few more times at least. If we are going to play FCS, and we will be, then those two are on the top of my list for the next few years.

Doesn't Presbyterian have a winning record against us as well?

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

We are just about guaranteed to have at least one FCS opponent every year if we intend to keep playing six home games. I say offer the game to the SoCon schools and if they don't want it, then there are lots of other FCS schools in the region that will take it. ETSU, Gardner-Webb, Coastal Carolina, NC A&T, NCCU, SC State; I think any of those would take the game.

I wouldn't mind William (aka Bill) and Mary, or Richmond either.

W&M has a 1-2 advantage on us. I would like that turned around. Furman has a few games on us as well. Play them a few more times at least. If we are going to play FCS, and we will be, then those two are on the top of my list for the next few years.

Doesn't Presbyterian have a winning record against us as well?

Then we can play them if they like a trip to Boone. I am glad L-R, which had our number for a few years back many years ago, is in the positive win column for us. I don't want to play a D-II team. But the Blue Hose is FCS so that would be a team that would be on my list to play if they have the lead in the series. If we must play FCS, and I think that will be true I say we go after the schools that have the series lead on us, and SoCon schools every now and then.

[AppAttack]

We should play one FCS game per year. Start out easy then schedule the good ones. We need the wins. I wouldn't mind Furman until we get the series lead.

[bcoach]

When we are full FBS can we really claim wins for a series that was started in FCS ? Isn't that a little like beating your little brother at boxing?

[vegattk]

We will continue to schedule 1 FCS home game a year.

We should schedule the FCS team that we can get up here the cheapest that will bring the most fans.

The candidates will be A&T, ETSU, and G-Webb. CCU would be a good one on the years they don't play USC or Clemson.

WCU needs money and if their travel to App is less expensive than it would be to some other higher paying FBS opponents. With the relationship of our leaders and coaches and theirs the WCU fans may be disappointed that a future game if more likely to occur than they wish.

We must schedule SoCon teams in baseball and basketball as well.

To answer the question of the thread...

YES we should continue playing SoCon schools...

BUT only if all other avenues have been exhausted.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

When we are full FBS can we really claim wins for a series that was started in FCS ? Isn't that a little like beating your little brother at boxing?

I don't give a crap and I was the little brother. I survived, though it was easier having the bigger sibling be a sister.

I want a winning series. I say we play Oak Ridge Military Academy at some point. I don't like the 0-1 series lead they old against us personally. I also want to get Tampa to reinstate Football so we can play them two games and get that series lead.

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Anything less than a .500 series we play if that means we give them our old jerseys and pay them bus fare to Boone. That is my story and I am sticking to it.

(I do want to play Furman a few more times.)

[bigCasu]

I am so conflicted here. I know we are going to continue to play the SoCon in OOC games in non-revenue sports. I am not opposed to playing SoCon opponents, but the ones that are more likely to agree to a game, I believe, are the ones who do not have to depend on public dollars to fund the university. I think the odds are much higher that the schools in the SoCon that we are "running away from" are the ones who we will see in Boone first. It may be a long time before we see Western or Chattanooga. Elon Wofford and Furman seem more likely.