Liberty series

[Mjohn1988]

I love App football and we have done some awesome things but some folks are elevating us to a place we haven’t made it to yet. 2019 was amazing but we have won 3 P5 games since 2007. I think some P5 schools should and do have a healthy respect for us but I wouldn’t say their scared of us. I’m not trying to diminish anything our players and coaches have accomplished, it is truly amazing.

[HkyMtneer]

It looks like, if some lawmakers and folks (including Jerry Falwell Jr.) get their way, we may be playing Liberty in Lynchburg, WEST VIRGINIA, rather than Virginia, in 2025. Obviously, "Vexit" doesn't stand much a of a chance but stranger things have happened.

https://www.newsadvance.com/news/vexit- ... 51c41.html

[AppSt92]

It looks like, if some lawmakers and folks (including Jerry Falwell Jr.) get their way, we may be playing Liberty in Lynchburg, WEST VIRGINIA, rather than Virginia, in 2025. Obviously, "Vexit" doesn't stand much a of a chance but stranger things have happened.

https://www.newsadvance.com/news/vexit- ... 51c41.html

Falwell Jr. is a wackjob.

[Yosef10]

Exactly
I am curious as to who it is that is " scared" to play us.

The ADs that feel pressure from their fanbase scheduling a high risk, minimal reward game. I got so many texts from SC fans two years ago when that game was scheduled, I can only imagine what their AD received.

That is much different than teams being scared to play us. That is a few vocal fans making noise like we do that pretty much gets ignored.

That is EXACTLY like teams being scared to play us. AD's schedule. Donors hire AD's. We are going to have a hard time scheduling P5's. We Scared Tennessee and PennState and Beat UNC, USC. I promise it has AD's thinking if it is worth scheduling us as a G5 game. We may get Clemson and Alabama, but it will be hard to get the middle of the conference teams to schedule us.

Then how does Boise have Florida State, Oklahoma State, Michigan state, Oregon State, Oregon, and Washington State on future schedules?

[hapapp]

It looks like, if some lawmakers and folks (including Jerry Falwell Jr.) get their way, we may be playing Liberty in Lynchburg, WEST VIRGINIA, rather than Virginia, in 2025. Obviously, "Vexit" doesn't stand much a of a chance but stranger things have happened.

https://www.newsadvance.com/news/vexit- ... 51c41.html

Falwell Jr. is a wackjob.

I'd have no objection if Lynchburg becomes part of West Virginia! Anything to get him out of the state.

[WVAPPeer]

It looks like, if some lawmakers and folks (including Jerry Falwell Jr.) get their way, we may be playing Liberty in Lynchburg, WEST VIRGINIA, rather than Virginia, in 2025. Obviously, "Vexit" doesn't stand much a of a chance but stranger things have happened.

https://www.newsadvance.com/news/vexit- ... 51c41.html

Falwell Jr. is a wackjob.

I'd have no objection if Lynchburg becomes part of West Virginia! Anything to get him out of the state.

No Thanks - West Virginia doesn't need his hypocrisy

[spacemonkey]

Exactly
I am curious as to who it is that is " scared" to play us.

The ADs that feel pressure from their fanbase scheduling a high risk, minimal reward game. I got so many texts from SC fans two years ago when that game was scheduled, I can only imagine what their AD received.

That is much different than teams being scared to play us. That is a few vocal fans making noise like we do that pretty much gets ignored.

That is EXACTLY like teams being scared to play us. AD's schedule. Donors hire AD's. We are going to have a hard time scheduling P5's. We Scared Tennessee and PennState and Beat UNC, USC. I promise it has AD's thinking if it is worth scheduling us as a G5 game. We may get Clemson and Alabama, but it will be hard to get the middle of the conference teams to schedule us.

Then how does Boise have Florida State, Oklahoma State, Michigan state, Oregon State, Oregon, and Washington State on future schedules?

There are not many G5 teams out west. I am not sure I would classify Florida St., Oregon, or Michigan St. Middle of the road.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

It looks like, if some lawmakers and folks (including Jerry Falwell Jr.) get their way, we may be playing Liberty in Lynchburg, WEST VIRGINIA, rather than Virginia, in 2025. Obviously, "Vexit" doesn't stand much a of a chance but stranger things have happened.

https://www.newsadvance.com/news/vexit- ... 51c41.html

Falwell Jr. is a wackjob.

He’s still alive? I’d figured he’d be in hell by now.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

You might be thinking of Falwell Sr. Jr is not that old it seems.

[WVAPPeer]

It looks like, if some lawmakers and folks (including Jerry Falwell Jr.) get their way, we may be playing Liberty in Lynchburg, WEST VIRGINIA, rather than Virginia, in 2025. Obviously, "Vexit" doesn't stand much a of a chance but stranger things have happened.

https://www.newsadvance.com/news/vexit- ... 51c41.html

Falwell Jr. is a wackjob.

I'd have no objection if Lynchburg becomes part of West Virginia! Anything to get him out of the state.

No Thanks - West Virginia doesn't need his hypocrisy

This does remind of a game many years ago with WVU playing at UVA - that was back in the day when UVA had a whacky small band - their halftime show was based on the theme ---
WEST VIRGINIA, IF YOU HAD TO SECEDE WHY THE HELL DIDN'T YOU TAKE BLACKSBURG WITH YOU!!!

[NewApp]

Again, why don't we just kick the Flames' arses all over the football field and be done with it? Forget wack job Falwell,Jr and his minions.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Again, why don't we just kick the Flames' arses all over the football field and be done with it? Forget wack job Falwell,Jr and his minions.

Playing a team gives them credibility. I am not so opposed to it that I would boycott the game in Boone and if I am not working that weekend I would be willing to take Amtrak to the game, but more for the train ride than not.

I would prefer to not give Liberty money directly or indirectly by App writing them a check.

At the end of the day it is out of my control and I understand why it was done, but it does rub me the wrong way for a few reasons-political, religious, but also how they fund their program with the online part of their school. It is giving them a huge advantage in athletics. Also their recent athletic hires----uggh. It just does not pass the "I feel good about it test." for me personally.

It would be nice that we beat them so bad they reconsider moving to FBS football.

[NewApp]

Again, why don't we just kick the Flames' arses all over the football field and be done with it? Forget wack job Falwell,Jr and his minions.

Playing a team gives them credibility. I am not so opposed to it that I would boycott the game in Boone and if I am not working that weekend I would be willing to take Amtrak to the game, but more for the train ride than not.

I would prefer to not give Liberty money directly or indirectly by App writing them a check.

At the end of the day it is out of my control and I understand why it was done, but it does rub me the wrong way for a few reasons-political, religious, but also how they fund their program with the online part of their school. It is giving them a huge advantage in athletics. Also their recent athletic hires----uggh. It just does not pass the "I feel good about it test." for me personally.

It would be nice that we beat them so bad they reconsider moving to FBS football.

The Falwell's have spoken out as obvious racists before, yet one of my former students' son is African American (half) and plays basketball for Liberty. It's all hype, nothing more, nothing less. To discriminate against Liberty because of their bogus religious/political beliefs is hypocrisy in itself. As to their bogus online degrees which has been bantered around on here to no end. EZU (ECU) probably has nearly as many. They advertise nationally just like LU does. I will not travel to Liberty, but I will be watching on the net, on network TV, or listening to them on WKBC...whichever occurs.

Playing UNC-Cheat gave their corrupt program some credibility, yet we won out in the end. So there's that.
TC, MCl.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Again, why don't we just kick the Flames' arses all over the football field and be done with it? Forget wack job Falwell,Jr and his minions.

Playing a team gives them credibility. I am not so opposed to it that I would boycott the game in Boone and if I am not working that weekend I would be willing to take Amtrak to the game, but more for the train ride than not.

I would prefer to not give Liberty money directly or indirectly by App writing them a check.

At the end of the day it is out of my control and I understand why it was done, but it does rub me the wrong way for a few reasons-political, religious, but also how they fund their program with the online part of their school. It is giving them a huge advantage in athletics. Also their recent athletic hires----uggh. It just does not pass the "I feel good about it test." for me personally.

It would be nice that we beat them so bad they reconsider moving to FBS football.

The Falwell's have spoken out as obvious racists before, yet one of my former students' son is African American (half) and plays basketball for Liberty. It's all hype, nothing more, nothing less. To discriminate against Liberty because of their bogus religious/political beliefs is hypocrisy in itself. As to their bogus online degrees which has been bantered around on here to no end. EZU (ECU) probably has nearly as many. They advertise nationally just like LU does. I will not travel to Liberty, but I will be watching on the net, on network TV, or listening to them on WKBC...whichever occurs.

Playing UNC-Cheat gave their corrupt program some credibility, yet we won out in the end. So there's that.
TC, MCl.

It is not hypocrisy on my end. I gave my reasons, and they are well founded and supported by others. I didn't say they could not have those beliefs, I just don't want to support them. I feel the same about Bob Jones University, but we are not playing them in football. I have the right to not want my money going in directions that I am very opposed to.

I also know plenty of minorities that attend Liberty, some very close to me and my family. More power to them. I still don't want my money to go to Liberty if at all possible. Nothing against these current and former students.

There is NO WAY ECU has as much online presence at Liberty if what is reported on-line is only 1/2 the truth. If ECU had those sorts of online numbers they would have different levels of facilities than they do. Liberty seems to be sending out diplomas that are closer to a paper mill than a real university and using those funds to build up the campus in ways that seems to be putting them at a clear advantage compared to building a college organically. I do have a problem with that as it relates to playing sports with them. I am not calling for their removal from the NCAA, I just wish they were not playing us and if no one scheduled them and they moved to the NCCAA it would not bother me. I do wish SACS did not give them accreditation but that is another part of the issues I have with them separate from sports.

The game is happening so we do agree with each other that we want App to win and win big.

[NewApp]

McL. I'd rather give the Falwell clan funds (no pun intended) than what we enabled UNC-CHEAT to make off with because all we NC taxpayers are vested in those creeps. Having said that, I have taken a half dozen or more classes at Chapel Hell.
Of course I had rather neither get a dime from us..

[Mjohn1988]

McL. I'd rather give the Falwell clan funds (no pun intended) than what we enabled UNC-CHEAT to make off with because all we NC taxpayers are vested in those creeps. Having said that, I have taken a half dozen or more classes at Chapel Hell.
Of course I had rather neither get a dime from us..

You make a good point, while folks go on and on about not wanting to give “funding” to a private university we’re forced to fund our public universities. I support both private and public education and firmly believe we need both. That said there are a lot of things that go on at App. and Chapel Hill that I don’t agree with. In fact I find both schools almost at war with my world view. Truth is I don’t think the majority of the faculty at either school reflect the beliefs of most folks in our state. I have written both schools Chancellors and urged them seek out staff members that have diverse beliefs and thoughts that more closely reflect those of the people of our state. If the professors at our university are in lock step the students are more likely to get an indoctrination than a education.

[NewApp]

Agreed, Mjohn

[WVAPPeer]

McL. I'd rather give the Falwell clan funds (no pun intended) than what we enabled UNC-CHEAT to make off with because all we NC taxpayers are vested in those creeps. Having said that, I have taken a half dozen or more classes at Chapel Hell.
Of course I had rather neither get a dime from us..

You make a good point, while folks go on and on about not wanting to give “funding” to a private university we’re forced to fund our public universities. I support both private and public education and firmly believe we need both. That said there are a lot of things that go on at App. and Chapel Hill that I don’t agree with. In fact I find both schools almost at war with my world view. Truth is I don’t think the majority of the faculty at either school reflect the beliefs of most folks in our state. I have written both schools Chancellors and urged them seek out staff members that have diverse beliefs and thoughts that more closely reflect those of the people of our state. If the professors at our university are in lock step the students are more likely to get an indoctrination than a education.

not sure where you are coming from with this statement?

[mike87]

There seems to be a left lean at both universities, more so at Chapel Hill, but both. I can live with a lean as long as you don't get the shouting down of legitimate opposing views condoned by the admin. Then it's too far. Of course this is all from the "reporting" of the news which each side seems to be selling their story so hard to believe any of it.

My issue with Chapel Hill is the cheating scandal and use of public money to deny and deflect criticism. Private schools use private money voluntarily given so I would criticize them less. Public institutions should be held to a higher standard. So, they suck.

[Yosef84]

McL. I'd rather give the Falwell clan funds (no pun intended) than what we enabled UNC-CHEAT to make off with because all we NC taxpayers are vested in those creeps. Having said that, I have taken a half dozen or more classes at Chapel Hell.
Of course I had rather neither get a dime from us..

You make a good point, while folks go on and on about not wanting to give “funding” to a private university we’re forced to fund our public universities. I support both private and public education and firmly believe we need both. That said there are a lot of things that go on at App. and Chapel Hill that I don’t agree with. In fact I find both schools almost at war with my world view. Truth is I don’t think the majority of the faculty at either school reflect the beliefs of most folks in our state. I have written both schools Chancellors and urged them seek out staff members that have diverse beliefs and thoughts that more closely reflect those of the people of our state. If the professors at our university are in lock step the students are more likely to get an indoctrination than a education.

I'm sure that there are things going on at all public universities that would sit wrong with almost any person, regardless of their "leaning." That's the nature of diversity. It seems you call for diversity with one breath, but aren't comfortable with the fact we have it. I'm not questioning your values or your right to have them, but the situation you are describing is very different from the topic. The issues people have with Liberty and UNC aren't related to the behaviors of individual faculty or students. They are related to a lack of institutional integrity. Liberty comes into question (depending on the individual) for political activism and lack of academic integrity over a lack of quality associated with their online degrees (whether that lack of quality is real or perceived). UNC's lack of integrity is related to a systemic cheating involving their athletics....an issue that was defended by allowing the academic integrity of the university to take a hit (the classes were available to all students, not jut athletes...thereby taking it out from under NCAA jurisdiction).

It just seems your statement about App and UNC is an entirely different issue.