Moving On to ECU

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Yosef1986 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:17 am

We should not look past any team - 1 game at a time.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:35 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
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You guys are nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why is it a must win?

3 weeks ago everyone would say App will be 1-1 after week 2.
If you lose two out of 3 to start the season you are staring at a 4-5 loss campaign. The pressure will ramp up with every loss to hire a new coach. That wears on everyone. Plus if you can’t beat a subpar ECU team the inevitable is a matter of time. You can’t underestimate the Clemson beat down.

On the flip side, go on a run and keep it to 2-3 losses and win the conference and the job is safe for possibly a new contract. Huge year for coach.
Where do you guys get the idea that ECU is subpar? They have offensive weapons, a veteran offensive line, a true four star corner, a seasoned front four, and a head coach with a lineage of winning.

They were garbage last year, but this is the transfer portal era. They were only missing an offense last year and they now are back to the Air Raid.
I watched their game with ODU tonight and I have to say that I don’t really know what to think of them at this point. They beat a very overmatched Norfolk St team in week 1. Against ODU, they ran the ball 51 times for 183 yards. 3.6 avg. just like with ETSU, 63 yards came on one play. They had 14 drives and ran 89 plays. 5 drives ended in punts, 4 INTs and a botched end of the half possession. Two TDs and two FGs with one ending a drive that started at the ODU 20. The OL gave up 3 sacks and 8 TFLs. I think that they will get better through the year but the body of work thus far doesn’t lend me to declare them as any thing more than a work in progress.
Ha! I did too. They barely attempted passed
down the field. Our DBs are going to have to play up or near line of scrimmage or Garcia will have a field day.
Looking at the game stats is thoroughly confusing me. They ran a lot of plays but their ypp is atrocious. They had 22 third down plays. The average yardage on those 22 plays was 3rd and almost 7, (6.8). The 12 they made were an average of 6.08. The average for non conversion was 8.66. What I take from that is that they aren’t very good on 1st and 2nd downs. Their overall conversation rate is way above the mean, so how much of that success can be attributed to the ODU defense?

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by MrCraig » Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:14 am

ECU is better this year than last, but so is App, despite the result last weekend. ECU might have a good defense, but they aren't even on the same planet with Clemson. This game won't be a romp for App, but I'm really just not worried about it. After last week, I think Greenville isn't going to seem like much for App.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:21 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:35 am
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:10 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:34 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:13 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:39 am


If you lose two out of 3 to start the season you are staring at a 4-5 loss campaign. The pressure will ramp up with every loss to hire a new coach. That wears on everyone. Plus if you can’t beat a subpar ECU team the inevitable is a matter of time. You can’t underestimate the Clemson beat down.

On the flip side, go on a run and keep it to 2-3 losses and win the conference and the job is safe for possibly a new contract. Huge year for coach.
Where do you guys get the idea that ECU is subpar? They have offensive weapons, a veteran offensive line, a true four star corner, a seasoned front four, and a head coach with a lineage of winning.

They were garbage last year, but this is the transfer portal era. They were only missing an offense last year and they now are back to the Air Raid.
I watched their game with ODU tonight and I have to say that I don’t really know what to think of them at this point. They beat a very overmatched Norfolk St team in week 1. Against ODU, they ran the ball 51 times for 183 yards. 3.6 avg. just like with ETSU, 63 yards came on one play. They had 14 drives and ran 89 plays. 5 drives ended in punts, 4 INTs and a botched end of the half possession. Two TDs and two FGs with one ending a drive that started at the ODU 20. The OL gave up 3 sacks and 8 TFLs. I think that they will get better through the year but the body of work thus far doesn’t lend me to declare them as any thing more than a work in progress.
Ha! I did too. They barely attempted passed
down the field. Our DBs are going to have to play up or near line of scrimmage or Garcia will have a field day.
Looking at the game stats is thoroughly confusing me. They ran a lot of plays but their ypp is atrocious. They had 22 third down plays. The average yardage on those 22 plays was 3rd and almost 7, (6.8). The 12 they made were an average of 6.08. The average for non conversion was 8.66. What I take from that is that they aren’t very good on 1st and 2nd downs. Their overall conversation rate is way above the mean, so how much of that success can be attributed to the ODU defense?
I was muti-tasking while it was on. It seemed the predominant pass play on 1st and 2nd was outside not too far from line of scrimmage....then they worked the field down the middle around the hash marks or to outside...most of the time to just around the first down markers. It seemed they had less success on extreme outside runs ..but more success off tackle or an inside run that bounced off tackle. If I remember correctly, one of the long runs was off tackle where the DE got caught blocking inside down the line and left the hole wide open.... similar to etsu long run in US.
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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:23 am

Who knows what our 3rd down defense looks like, could be a frustrating day.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by blunderbuss » Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:41 am

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Reminder, guys, it's at ECU. That usually makes a difference. Are the refs AAC or some SB?
Typically it's the away team's refs. And LOL at thinking ECU ever gets home cooking. AAC refs are equal opportunity offenders.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:47 am

blunderbuss wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:41 am
NewApp wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:56 pm
Reminder, guys, it's at ECU. That usually makes a difference. Are the refs AAC or some SB?
Typically it's the away team's refs. And LOL at thinking ECU ever gets home cooking. AAC refs are equal opportunity offenders.
I’m not sure if that’s a good thing for us.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by KentHogan » Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:02 pm

I watched a portion of the ECU game as well. I noticed that their offensive line seemed to struggle against pressure. They do play fast, but they didn’t strike me as any kind of juggernaut.

Defensively, they seem to keep their corners 10 yards off the line and almost always have a deep safety. Hopefully our receivers can take advantage of all that cushion, and that should also make it easier to run the ball.

Hard to know how good they are considering their opponents so far, they haven’t exactly played quality teams.

App needs this game badly to avoid a bad start to the season. It will be disappointing if we’re not ready to get it done.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:07 pm

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Defensively, they seem to keep their corners 10 yards off the line and almost always have a deep safety. Hopefully our receivers can take advantage of all that cushion, and that should also make it easier to run the ball.
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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Black Saturday » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:04 pm

KentHogan wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:02 pm
I watched a portion of the ECU game as well. I noticed that their offensive line seemed to struggle against pressure. They do play fast, but they didn’t strike me as any kind of juggernaut.

Defensively, they seem to keep their corners 10 yards off the line and almost always have a deep safety. Hopefully our receivers can take advantage of all that cushion, and that should also make it easier to run the ball.

Hard to know how good they are considering their opponents so far, they haven’t exactly played quality teams.

App needs this game badly to avoid a bad start to the season. It will be disappointing if we’re not ready to get it done.

Go App!
We may hear again if we lose that "all of our goals are still in front of us" :lol:
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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Bootsy » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:33 pm

Anybody heard from Gorilla lately? We were thinking about bringing the octagon down to Dowdy-Ficklen so he could go a few rounds with Clark pre-game. But the kid couldn’t raise enough dough to hop a Greyhound over from Utah…so that plan crapped the bed.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

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Re: Moving On to ECU

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Bootsy » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:40 pm

Sorry to say this, but that uni reveal could’ve been better. The good news: had Hollifield fallen overboard, he would’ve been OK…Price lake is like 3 feet deep :D
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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:42 pm

Maybe that should have been the script to make it more exciting.
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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by biggie » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:44 pm

Bootsy wrote:
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Sorry to say this, but that uni reveal could’ve been better. The good news: had Hollifield fallen overboard, he would’ve been OK…Price lake is like 3 feet deep :D
He should have just walked across it. That mud ain't fun though.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:53 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:33 pm
Anybody heard from Gorilla lately? We were thinking about bringing the octagon down to Dowdy-Ficklen so he could go a few rounds with Clark pre-game. But the kid couldn’t raise enough dough to hop a Greyhound over from Utah…so that plan crapped the bed.
Always a good sign when he’s absent.

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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by App_in_Maiden » Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:49 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:33 pm
Anybody heard from Gorilla lately? We were thinking about bringing the octagon down to Dowdy-Ficklen so he could go a few rounds with Clark pre-game. But the kid couldn’t raise enough dough to hop a Greyhound over from Utah…so that plan crapped the bed.
He will be back as soon as we have our first incomplete pass spewing about how bad Clark is, being a d!ck to people, blah blah blah.
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Re: Moving On to ECU

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:28 pm

Yosef1986 wrote:
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We should not look past any team - 1 game at a time.
This… Clark teams don’t always come prepared.

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