Worst I’ve ever seen

[Kafarmer]

Everybody has their own ideas, but it never fails to amaze me how many wannabe AD’s there are on here. If that offends you, then hello.

[bcoach]

App fans.

Would you support an FBS split and the G5 going into a separate division with playoffs and regionalized conferences or do you like the status quo (not your team, the current structure of FBS).

My wish is that the G5 split off, be joined by some upper tier FCS teams, form a new division and have the same playoff system as the FCS.

Then regionalize conferences so that most of our games are drivable.

That would mean you guys are likely in a conference with us, ECU, Marshall, Coastal, JMU, ODU, Georgia Souther and State, UAB, etc.

I would like to experience what you guys experienced when you were FCS powerhouses. And I’m never going to experience that in the current construction of FBS. There is no hope of that.

Put us in a level we can at least theoretically compete for championships.

What say you?

You just proposed the FCS. If you want to go down and join the FCS go ahead. I would rather App look up forward, not down and backwards

Question for you.

Were you a fan during Apps FCS powerhouse years and if so, are you having more fun now, or back then?

Same question goes for all on the board.

This is a serious question.

Because as a charlotte fan I think I would have more fun if we were in FCS.

Still miss the playoffs and championship games. I would be for it. Not complaining but really the G5 team that makes it to the playoff is getting a participation trophy. Bowl games are fine. They are an extra game and that is always good but they don't really mean anything. It would be fun to get into a playoff that you could actually win. Now with all that said at this point I would be just over the moon if we could win a confrence championship. All would be well with me.

[Bootsy]

Regardless of if he was prompted to make it, the timing for Hannon’s statement couldn’t have been worse. It may as well have gone down like this:

Alumni: “Most of the team phoned it in last night and didn’t seem ashamed to do it.”

Hannon: “The abject failure you witnessed at KBS last night may look like the team was unprepared and quit early in the game. But actually, that horrific loss was all your fault, because you didn’t donate more money. So get your checkbook out…and shut up.”

[t4pizza]

I just don't get the NIL issue when we are dealing with an embarrassing blowout loss at home to South Alabama, not Alabama who actually has a NIL advantage but South Alabama who most certainly is on equal or lesser footing than we are. Don't blame NIL or the transfer portal for non competitive games against peer schools. It is a weak argument and falls on deaf ears. We have more athletic fundraising and ticket sales than South Alabama so why would anyone think that they somehow have superior NIL options. It is a red herring and nothing more. We got our asses kicked and it had nothing to do with a lack of NIL. I am pretty sure that Joey is our highest paid NIL player and he sure as shit isn't playing as good as he did last year, so perhaps the money just makes things worse. I am tired of the NIL excuse against a peer school, it just doesn't hold water so stop it.

[NewApp]

I just don't get the NIL issue when we are dealing with an embarrassing blowout loss at home to South Alabama, not Alabama who actually has a NIL advantage but South Alabama who most certainly is on equal or lesser footing than we are. Don't blame NIL or the transfer portal for non competitive games against peer schools. It is a weak argument and falls on deaf ears. We have more athletic fundraising and ticket sales than South Alabama so why would anyone think that they somehow have superior NIL options. It is a red herring and nothing more. We got our asses kicked and it had nothing to do with a lack of NIL. I am pretty sure that Joey is our highest paid NIL player and he sure as shit isn't playing as good as he did last year, so perhaps the money just makes things worse. I am tired of the NIL excuse against a peer school, it just doesn't hold water so stop it.

Didn't he pass for over 400 yds last week vs ECU?

[NewApp]

We will NOT make a change until December when the Buyout drops. You can write that in stone

That's fine and dandy but the decision needs to be made today. No more "Let's see how he finishes". Let him know he's out but can finish the season. Start prepping to find a new coach. If we're really worried about saving $250K by waiting 1.5 more months, we've got major major issues and need to go back to FCS.

He would be a lame duck coach. How would that sit with the current players the rest of the season?

[mountaineerman]

We will NOT make a change until December when the Buyout drops. You can write that in stone

That's fine and dandy but the decision needs to be made today. No more "Let's see how he finishes". Let him know he's out but can finish the season. Start prepping to find a new coach. If we're really worried about saving $250K by waiting 1.5 more months, we've got major major issues and need to go back to FCS.

He would be a lame duck coach. How would that sit with the current players the rest of the season?

What we all saw on the field last night really?

[t4pizza]

I just don't get the NIL issue when we are dealing with an embarrassing blowout loss at home to South Alabama, not Alabama who actually has a NIL advantage but South Alabama who most certainly is on equal or lesser footing than we are. Don't blame NIL or the transfer portal for non competitive games against peer schools. It is a weak argument and falls on deaf ears. We have more athletic fundraising and ticket sales than South Alabama so why would anyone think that they somehow have superior NIL options. It is a red herring and nothing more. We got our asses kicked and it had nothing to do with a lack of NIL. I am pretty sure that Joey is our highest paid NIL player and he sure as shit isn't playing as good as he did last year, so perhaps the money just makes things worse. I am tired of the NIL excuse against a peer school, it just doesn't hold water so stop it.

Didn't he pass for over 400 yds last week vs ECU?

Stats can be deceiving. If you have seen any game live you will know what I am talking about. He locks in on his primary receiver and often forces bad throws in that direction (sometimes with great results) but if he thinks they aren't open (and they often aren't) he does not go to the second or third option (which are many times open) and instead dumps it off to a RB or throws it away on 4th down. He can throw the ball and our guys can catch and he can put up stats, but he isn't playing nearly as well as he should be. It is hard to see on tv because they don't show the whole field but in person, it is very obvious that he is missing opportunities.

[Bootsy]

^this^

It was clear on Thursday night that Aguilar isn’t working through his reads.

[bcoach]

I just don't get the NIL issue when we are dealing with an embarrassing blowout loss at home to South Alabama, not Alabama who actually has a NIL advantage but South Alabama who most certainly is on equal or lesser footing than we are. Don't blame NIL or the transfer portal for non competitive games against peer schools. It is a weak argument and falls on deaf ears. We have more athletic fundraising and ticket sales than South Alabama so why would anyone think that they somehow have superior NIL options. It is a red herring and nothing more. We got our asses kicked and it had nothing to do with a lack of NIL. I am pretty sure that Joey is our highest paid NIL player and he sure as shit isn't playing as good as he did last year, so perhaps the money just makes things worse. I am tired of the NIL excuse against a peer school, it just doesn't hold water so stop it.

Didn't he pass for over 400 yds last week vs ECU?

He passed for 266 yards and lost. Lopez passed for 156 yards and won this week. My interest is in APP STATE winning games not what kind of stats our QB has. There is really only one important stat. How many times do you cross that line down there at the end of the field. He is a QB who has a great arm and makes bad decisions.

[DoubleA]

It has been apparent since the season opener against ETSU that something is off with this team. Poor tackling, mediocre running game and we’re getting our butts kicked on the line of scrimmage, on both sides of the ball. This is not Appalachian State football, where we take on all comers and let the chips fall where they may. And as fans, while we support the team through the thick and the thin, we do expect the Mountaineers to compete and at least make our opponent know they’ve been in a fight. This year’s edition has been hard to watch at times, and Thursday night was a sorry display.

[pop5app]

The players appear to be like disgruntled employees. Mad that their pay check is not what they think it should be.

[311neers]

The players appear to be like disgruntled employees. Mad that their pay check is not what they think it should be.

I’m mad we’re paying a coach a lot of money to get beat by 40 2 times in 4 games. That’s pretty hard to do at App State.

[WASU 93]

They’ve got Noah Hannon playing puppeteer blaming the alumni for lack of NIL. Some ex players barking back at him. I’ve seen it all with this staff and leadership.

More money isn’t going to give the guys heart, effort or return the culture to form. I’ve never in my life seen players give up mid-game in an app uniform until this year and I’ve seen it happen twice in 4 games. Blaming the fans who showed for a SELLOUT on a Thursday is one way to galvanize us against the administration. Thankful for Noah’s efforts and I’m sure the comment didn’t mean to sound the way it did but he needs to read the room. What happened last night didn’t occur because of a lack of funding. It had nothing to do with the 30k+ in the stands.

Tongue in cheek- the program lost $50K in beer sales Thursday night due to the on field performance/max exodus

[BambooRdApp]

Thought about it much since late Thursday.
We are experiencing the EA SPORTS College Football 25 curse... should not have been in the video .
2020s versions of the old Sports Illustrated curse...damm

[Stonewall]

What school sells out a Thursday night game ? Any criticism of fan support is laughable. At this point fan support far exceeds the quality of performance on the field. And on the sidelines.

[ncman071]

I haven't read through this whole thread but just needed to vent. I've been an App St fan since my brother was a walk on QB back in 93. I graduated from App in 04 and have loved every minute of App St football. But I have never seen a season where we almost literally didn't show up twice....on national tv...at home in front of a 35k crowd against honestly a decent but not great S.Ala team. What is happening? We have talent. But our offensive line cant seem to get out and block on zone reads and stretch plays. Our guards and tackles couldn't pick up simple twists along the defensive front of S Ala. We have no running game. Our defense can't stop anything. I am just flabbergasted. I really have tried to like Clark. I think he's a great man and a great person in general. I thought he was showing real growth when we turned it around last year from 3-4 to winning 6 of 7 and beating a really solid Miami,Oh team in our bowl. Overall he's been 9-3, 10-4, 6-6, back to 9-5 ..showing improvment from 2022 to 2023 seasons. But he has too often been outcoached ...our on field play imo does not match our talent. We aren't even mediocre right now. I am not a believer in firing a coach mid season. I hope and pray we can somehow turn this around...but at this point we are absolutely the worst team in the sunbelt. This is not App St football. I dont expect us to win 10 games every single season. I know the sunbelt is a great conference but we should be better than this

[Stonewall]

We are in last place.

[appstatealum]

We will NOT make a change until December when the Buyout drops. You can write that in stone

That's fine and dandy but the decision needs to be made today. No more "Let's see how he finishes". Let him know he's out but can finish the season. Start prepping to find a new coach. If we're really worried about saving $250K by waiting 1.5 more months, we've got major major issues and need to go back to FCS.

He would be a lame duck coach. How would that sit with the current players the rest of the season?

That stuff doesn't matter anymore. I think that's where the problem is, some fans are still seeing and thinking about CFB for what it once was. Very few of those players care about who is coaching them.

[Rekdiver]

We’ve always had problems with big o lines..