NIL and future of NCAACF

[bcoach]

I just wanted to put a thought out to the others on this board. This past weekend we witnessed the greed of (mostly the family of) a QB from UT that had already signed a huge deal to play for UT. Let me be clear..... I hate the way college Athletics have gone in this NIL era. But, what we are witnessing is straight from Pro sports (any) when a player signs a 5 year deal. Has two great years and wants to "renegotiate" the original contract after Two of 5 years. No player has EVER stated I'm not putting up numbers that used to "I'll take a pay cut". NIL is now empowering these students to act like the PROS. Reminds me Cam Newton's Father shopping his son from JUCO. If the NCAA coaches are serious about stopping the growth of this type of CANCER in college sports; the QB from UT will ONLY get offers from G5 for much less than his UT NIL. And I hope it's NOT a ASU deal............

If the coaches, Athletic Directors and Chancellors are serious about saving college sports they will take back their collective power. None of the players have anything without the brands these colleges built. All the colleges have to do is refuse to be involved in NIL and this whole mess will go away. They just have to exercise the power they have.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but NIL won’t go away. Student athletes should be able to earn money as a social media “influencer” just like anyone else or earn money from their name and image (EA CFB game for example). If you’re saying Schools could tell students “if you want it, go get it on your own like any other student,” then 100% agree that should be the extent of their involvement.

AND not be allowed to use any logo, or name of the university.

[Stonewall]

Even Corso is hanging it up.

[Mjohn1988]

I just wanted to put a thought out to the others on this board. This past weekend we witnessed the greed of (mostly the family of) a QB from UT that had already signed a huge deal to play for UT. Let me be clear..... I hate the way college Athletics have gone in this NIL era. But, what we are witnessing is straight from Pro sports (any) when a player signs a 5 year deal. Has two great years and wants to "renegotiate" the original contract after Two of 5 years. No player has EVER stated I'm not putting up numbers that used to "I'll take a pay cut". NIL is now empowering these students to act like the PROS. Reminds me Cam Newton's Father shopping his son from JUCO. If the NCAA coaches are serious about stopping the growth of this type of CANCER in college sports; the QB from UT will ONLY get offers from G5 for much less than his UT NIL. And I hope it's NOT a ASU deal............

If the coaches, Athletic Directors and Chancellors are serious about saving college sports they will take back their collective power. None of the players have anything without the brands these colleges built. All the colleges have to do is refuse to be involved in NIL and this whole mess will go away. They just have to exercise the power they have.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but NIL won’t go away. Student athletes should be able to earn money as a social media “influencer” just like anyone else or earn money from their name and image (EA CFB game for example). If you’re saying Schools could tell students “if you want it, go get it on your own like any other student,” then 100% agree that should be the extent of their involvement.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. If you can get an NIL deal great for you, but the university of XYZ isn’t involved. And if you don’t show up for practice or classes and mention NIL as a reason we will pack up your locker for you and ship it back to your parent’s house free of charge. That last part would make the idiots who are supplying the cash think twice about how much money they are putting into an 18 year old who can throw a ball.

The coaches, athletic directors, presidents, and chancellors are responsible, because all of them benefit from having winning teams. Do not forget that what the players are getting now is little compared to what these coaches have been getting for years. Loyalty to their schools? Most coaches are out the door as soon as they get a better offer, as well as chancellors, athletic directors, and presidents.

So why should the students have any loyalty or not renegotiate their contract when the adults are setting the example?

I didn’t say anything about loyalty. I’m talking about power. My opinion, right now the balance of power is way out of wack. For some reason the universities are refusing to exercise their power and they have given way too much power to the players. I don’t want the players to be abused and I have absolutely no issue with “real” NIL deals. To thrive and succeed players and football programs need each other but the players need the programs more than the programs need the players. Look at it this way, if the top 500 high school players never went to a college program nobody would know the difference. Point is the system as a whole can function just fine without a bunch of the available players and even without the best available players. But the players have absolutely nothing without a place to play.

[EastHallApp]

There is a difference between renegotiation and extortion. This dude threatened to sit out the playoff game unless they gave him more money. As much as I hate to say it, collective bargaining is the only solution to this.

Absolutely. I don't know why people balk at that idea, at least in comparison to what's going on now. I was a university employee when I was reshelving books in the library or staffing a computer lab. Why shouldn't an athlete who's getting paid a whole lot more have the same status?

[Bigdaddyg1]

Seems like for the most part the only group really and truly in favor of this current model are the select few top athletes, the relatively small group of rich boosters and a handful of top very highly paid coaches who really don’t care because they know they have the access to gobs of money that can simply restock their rosters. Other than that I’d wager the great majority of true fans hate it.

[AppSt94]

Seems like for the most part the only group really and truly in favor of this current model are the select few top athletes, the relatively small group of rich boosters and a handful of top very highly paid coaches who really don’t care because they know they have the access to gobs of money that can simply restock their rosters. Other than that I’d wager the great majority of true fans hate it.

Kirby Smart has been vocal about his displeasure for the current landscape.

[appdaze]

After Cali and IRS he is estimated to get 822k of that 1.75 mil that was thrown around earlier. If UCLA went lower then he might make 700k maybe. Ouch. Biggest fumble of the portal era so far.


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[Stonewall]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... h-carolina

[Bigdaddyg1]

I’ve asked this before and it’s a very generalized question. If you take 85 players on our roster, on average how much money could App State realistically pay that roster for play? Could we really afford $10k each ($850k total)? Obviously no pay for play would be a flat rate but annually do we even have enough money in our budget to add a player salary? I know this would have to extend to other sports to also include some women’s sports as well. I’m sure if someone dug through some threads you would find some from a few years back that included folks advocating for paying college athletes. Perhaps we need a form of luxury tax that the power schools would pay which would trickle down to the G5’s. If we truly become a feeder school for the P4’s then we absolutely should be compensated for our roster losses.

[AtlAppMan]

After Cali and IRS he is estimated to get 822k of that 1.75 mil that was thrown around earlier. If UCLA went lower then he might make 700k maybe. Ouch. Biggest fumble of the portal era so far.


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Maybe Nico felt he might not perform as well as he thought at a SEC so time would catch up to him. So move on to another team and take the money so TN doesn't run out?

[Pikapp79]

After over 40 years of Yosef donations and season tickets my wife and I have decided to no longer contribute or buy season tickets. Don’t believe in the new system and not going to support something we don’t believe in.

[Stonewall]

Looking for eligibility time limits to go away.

[AppSt94]

Looking for eligibility time limits to go away.

So basically trying to become the USFL in that they want to become the NFL lite. SMH.

[KentHogan]

After over 40 years of Yosef donations and season tickets my wife and I have decided to no longer contribute or buy season tickets. Don’t believe in the new system and not going to support something we don’t believe in.

I imagine you won’t be last to move on.

Sad days for college athletics.

[Mikeyosef1]

After over 40 years of Yosef donations and season tickets my wife and I have decided to no longer contribute or buy season tickets. Don’t believe in the new system and not going to support something we don’t believe in.

We're not to that point yet but I'd be lying if I said College Football gives me the same joy it did. Every time I think about the current state of college athletics I get a little depressed; it's a helpless feeling, like this cannot end well. With our business outlook suddenly uncertain this year, it will be painful to write that big check to the Yosef club. I have never minded contributing before, but now I'm left wondering what it's all for and if it really makes a difference. We renewed our tickets and I will likely pony up at least what I did last year to the club but next year? I just don't know.

[appdaze]

Looking for eligibility time limits to go away.

So basically trying to become the USFL in that they want to become the NFL lite. SMH.

Yep, as soon as they start sharing revenue they would in their become employees. This means they can't be discriminated against due to age or anything of the sort. The only thing they could do would require them to be registered for classes. So yes, you could ha e any age at thay point.

[appst89]

Gonna require an antitrust exemption from Congress in order to enforce age limits or eligibility limits or transfer portal rules. I'm guessing collective bargaining and the antitrust exemption come about the same time.

[KentHogan]

Looking for eligibility time limits to go away.

So basically trying to become the USFL in that they want to become the NFL lite. SMH.

Yep, as soon as they start sharing revenue they would in their become employees. This means they can't be discriminated against due to age or anything of the sort. The only thing they could do would require them to be registered for classes. So yes, you could ha e any age at thay point.

I doubt that they will be able to require classes. Some kid will sue claiming that the school doesn’t require other employees to attend class, so why should an employee hired to play football have to attend class.

Once they’re employees, college athletics is truly done.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Looking for eligibility time limits to go away.

So basically trying to become the USFL in that they want to become the NFL lite. SMH.

Yep, as soon as they start sharing revenue they would in their become employees. This means they can't be discriminated against due to age or anything of the sort. The only thing they could do would require them to be registered for classes. So yes, you could ha e any age at thay point.

I doubt that they will be able to require classes. Some kid will sue claiming that the school doesn’t require other employees to attend class, so why should an employee hired to play football have to attend class.

Once they’re employees, college athletics is truly done.

About the time 99% of these “paid employees” hit say, age 24 they will be in trouble- spent a few years getting paid to play a sport, did virtually nothing else and didn’t get a degree and the money is gone. Guess they can sell the bling and get a job. Of course not all will go that route but without being compelled to actually attend school it will be bleak for many who get that dose of reality when their names aren’t called during the draft.

[appdaze]

Looking for eligibility time limits to go away.

So basically trying to become the USFL in that they want to become the NFL lite. SMH.

Yep, as soon as they start sharing revenue they would in their become employees. This means they can't be discriminated against due to age or anything of the sort. The only thing they could do would require them to be registered for classes. So yes, you could ha e any age at thay point.

I doubt that they will be able to require classes. Some kid will sue claiming that the school doesn’t require other employees to attend class, so why should an employee hired to play football have to attend class.

Once they’re employees, college athletics is truly done.

About the time 99% of these “paid employees” hit say, age 24 they will be in trouble- spent a few years getting paid to play a sport, did virtually nothing else and didn’t get a degree and the money is gone. Guess they can sell the bling and get a job. Of course not all will go that route but without being compelled to actually attend school it will be bleak for many who get that dose of reality when their names aren’t called during the draft.

Well, that's the same thing that already happens with pro sports. A large amount are broke within a few years. These pros will be no different. Often families are the worst enemies of finances.