Dowell's assistants

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by Yosefus » Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:59 pm

311neers wrote:
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Zac Arnett as DC

https://footballscoop.com/news/sources- ... ach-arnett?
The HC for Miss State after Leach’s passing?

Now that is a huge hire. He’s a stud. How did we swing this?!
That's bigger than the old man down the road dating th 24 year old

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:05 pm

GastonApp09 wrote:
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T-Dog wrote:
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Dowell said on some interview that he likes that App State didn't leak his name and liked to keep searches confidential. If the Arnett news came from App's side, that would be disappointing.

BGP will now claim this as another Ken Dorsey and why we shouldn't have fired Clark.
Why are you so worried about what they say/do?
He doesn't listen, just a personal beef apparently.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by ArmantiWaterSafety » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:22 pm

All this talk about resources actually makes me less inclined to donate more. It's got to be a tough sell. I'll still donate for those few that actually appreciate the scholarship, but why in the world would I donate 5 million when the bigger schools are most definitely going to donate 6 million to steal the person and then we're in the exact same boat had I not donated a penny. PS I do not have 5 million to donate, but lesser dollar values the point still stands. College football is so cooked. What a mess.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:32 pm

All the remaining SCar assistant coaches got extensions and raises. Guess we're not getting any of them. https://www.on3.com/teams/south-carolin ... ing-shula/

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by Bootsy » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:34 pm

Not saying I like it (I don’t), but what UNLV did with Arnett was clever. They waited until DLO/App put a salary number out there and set the “opening bid” on him. After that, the Rebs knew what they would need to bid to get him to forget about the mountain and head for the desert.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by BeauFoster » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:38 pm

AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:41 pm
AppYosef! wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:47 pm
311neers wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:08 pm
We need higher paying degrees ASAP. More disposable income to donate and give.
Apparently that doesn’t help. Look at Wake Forest with all those doctors and lawyers as alumni. And they still don’t have great funding.
How many of those Doctors & Lawyers went to Undergrad at Wake? I have always been of the opinion, undergrad is where the passion for a university is established.

Have a very longtime Family Friend that did… but as he says he went to “Trade” School (law) at UNC. He holds zero allegiance to chapel hill. Their support goes to Wake.
My best friends father is the opposite. He went to Western for undergrad, and Wake Law. While he supports WCU, he doesn’t have anything named for him there. At Wake he has several things.
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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by MtnMan14 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:47 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:34 pm
Not saying I like it (I don’t), but what UNLV did with Arnett was clever. They waited until DLO/App put a salary number out there and set the “opening bid” on him. After that, the Rebs knew what they would need to bid to get him to forget about the mountain and head for the desert.
If he’s getting $1.2m buyout check from Miss State though minus whatever he’s paid elsewhere (which is what I’ve seen), why does it matter? I doubt any G5 is paying over $1.2m for a coordinator.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:36 pm

Vegas may have had something to offer that Boone doesn't have.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by MtnMan14 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:55 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:36 pm
Vegas may have had something to offer that Boone doesn't have.
Definitely can’t argue with that! Everyone keeps talking money though and it seems like that wouldn’t matter for the next few years for him. Admittedly I don’t know all of the details of his buyout from Miss State, but that is just what I’ve seen.

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Unread post by BallantyneApp » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:06 pm

Could be a lot of things. Probably money related.

Sucks. More I think of it more I think the leak to football scoop had to come from his side. He’s the one that benefits. App would get the splash once a contact was signed too.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:49 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:36 pm
Vegas may have had something to offer that Boone doesn't have.
I love Boone but man Vegas is awesome.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by t4pizza » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:21 pm

AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:41 pm
AppYosef! wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:47 pm
311neers wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:08 pm
We need higher paying degrees ASAP. More disposable income to donate and give.
Apparently that doesn’t help. Look at Wake Forest with all those doctors and lawyers as alumni. And they still don’t have great funding.
How many of those Doctors & Lawyers went to Undergrad at Wake? I have always been of the opinion, undergrad is where the passion for a university is established.

Have a very longtime Family Friend that did… but as he says he went to “Trade” School (law) at UNC. He holds zero allegiance to chapel hill. Their support goes to Wake.
I agree, undergrad holds the passion of most fans. I barely even follow my post graduate school even though it is where I met my wife and started my family. App holds all my passion.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by mountaineerman » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:41 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:21 pm
AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:41 pm
AppYosef! wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:47 pm
311neers wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:08 pm
We need higher paying degrees ASAP. More disposable income to donate and give.
Apparently that doesn’t help. Look at Wake Forest with all those doctors and lawyers as alumni. And they still don’t have great funding.
How many of those Doctors & Lawyers went to Undergrad at Wake? I have always been of the opinion, undergrad is where the passion for a university is established.

Have a very longtime Family Friend that did… but as he says he went to “Trade” School (law) at UNC. He holds zero allegiance to chapel hill. Their support goes to Wake.
I agree, undergrad holds the passion of most fans. I barely even follow my post graduate school even though it is where I met my wife and started my family. App holds all my passion.
Honestly when I look at the landscape of College sports I honestly think the field is leveling. All the so called big schools are dealing with the same thing only at a higher level. I think we’ll be fine.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by DoesntEvenGoHere » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:42 pm

The Scoop article says UNLV made an offer App State could not match. Mullen is getting paid $3.5M...they are making an investment in attempt to stay relevant in the new modern CFB world. They made a point with his salary. The highest paid MWC coach by more than double. The highest paid G5 coach in all. Paid higher than at least 1 coach from all the P4 conferences.

Their NIL funds have been a topic covered heavily this year & they are not strong in that regard but they do have several families in the Vegas area that are well off & make big time donations to the school & athletic department. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money.

They play in brand new stadium. They play in the hottest west coast market for athletics. If they can find success, financial investment from the Athletic Department will make it easier to maintain it. They will always get the best coaches & staff if they pay 1.5-2x as much as the rest of their conference / majority of the G5. They are putting their best foot forward to try & create a program worthy of a P4 invite for when the next big shift comes in CFB. They want to be at the big boy table.

Basketball there is just as important, and the reason their NIL for football isn't as good as it could be. I hate we lost out on Arnett, but you can't blame Mullen or UNLV for seeing how great an opportunity it was to get a DC with a discount. Wouldn't be surprised if he's making over $1.2M at all.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by AppWyo » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:55 pm

mountaineerman wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:41 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:21 pm
AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:41 pm
AppYosef! wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:47 pm
311neers wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:08 pm
We need higher paying degrees ASAP. More disposable income to donate and give.
Apparently that doesn’t help. Look at Wake Forest with all those doctors and lawyers as alumni. And they still don’t have great funding.
How many of those Doctors & Lawyers went to Undergrad at Wake? I have always been of the opinion, undergrad is where the passion for a university is established.

Have a very longtime Family Friend that did… but as he says he went to “Trade” School (law) at UNC. He holds zero allegiance to chapel hill. Their support goes to Wake.
I agree, undergrad holds the passion of most fans. I barely even follow my post graduate school even though it is where I met my wife and started my family. App holds all my passion.
Honestly when I look at the landscape of College sports I honestly think the field is leveling. All the so called big schools are dealing with the same thing only at a higher level. I think we’ll be fine.
We really cannot out spend anyone and should not try. I imagine that Notre Dame out spends everyone, but we will never know because it is a private school. However, Notre Dame has not had a national championship in football since 1988.

You may or may not remember, that is when you were voted number one.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by DenverOfTheEast » Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:25 pm

Oh Bummer.

Hiring coaches to Boone ain't all that easy huh? Arnett shortest tenure of all time.

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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by falcoapp » Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:09 pm

Dorsey and Arnett. So close, yet so far away.

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Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:20 am

Says AppState94
“Miss St is paying him for the next 2 years. That amount owed by Miss St is reduced by whatever he is making at his next stop. So if he’s getting $1.2m to not coach from them and we pay him $400k, then Miss State’s obligation is now $800k.”

Ok. If that’s the deal why don’t we pay him $1? Let Mississippi State pay the rest.

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Unread post by DenverOfTheEast » Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:38 am

Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:20 am
Says AppState94
“Miss St is paying him for the next 2 years. That amount owed by Miss St is reduced by whatever he is making at his next stop. So if he’s getting $1.2m to not coach from them and we pay him $400k, then Miss State’s obligation is now $800k.”

Ok. If that’s the deal why don’t we pay him $1? Let Mississippi State pay the rest.
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Re: Dowell's assistants

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:39 am

Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:20 am
Says AppState94
“Miss St is paying him for the next 2 years. That amount owed by Miss St is reduced by whatever he is making at his next stop. So if he’s getting $1.2m to not coach from them and we pay him $400k, then Miss State’s obligation is now $800k.”

Ok. If that’s the deal why don’t we pay him $1? Let Mississippi State pay the rest.
I would assume the contract says that the new job would have to be at fair market value or comparable salary the new school has paid in the past...so to offset the Mississippi St. in a reasonable amount.
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