I get that mindset, but would like to hope/think that a 2 game suspension is enough for a college kid that got caught with drugs that are legal in several states across the country...mountaineerman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:47 pmI like the positive attitude. My guess is Sutton will not be back until his court date is settled. As a coach I don’t see how you can. We are balling without him .
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I disagree. When we weren't shooting ourselves in the foot, we outplayed them. You can't beat a team that outplays you while also giving them >100 yards of free yardage. Their last two "drives" were almost exclusively the result of App penalties.
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This is another example as to how transitive properties should never factor into your expectations. Coastal loses at home to Eastern Michigan and then goes on the road to beat Kansas. Yes, I know it is Kansas. Texas State gave Wyoming all they could handle yesterday. Wyoming beat Missouri who went and pasted West Virginia. The ball bounces funny for a reason.appstate77 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:44 pmImagine how both Tennessee (lost again) and Kansas (Beaten by Coastal) feels. We won the game. We have a bye week to fix issues and get Sutton back into gear. "Trust The Visor" we said early on. Not backing down from that (plus a Diet Dew tastes good. I had one at the game yesterday)
I like what we can present to Carolina in two weeks. Still optimistic about that game.
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Well ya got the ST part right.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:15 amThe only thing I saw from our team that gave me pause last weekend was the soft coverage/pass defense. It tightened up in the red zone (as it often does) and ultimately only let up 7 points to an FCS conference champ.
UNCC doesn’t have a QB that set himself apart in an entire off season. As football guys often utter: 2=0. Reynolds seemed to clearly lead their offense better against GW. That guy virtually played the whole game against us last year and went 12/22, 108 yards, 1 INT, and 0 TD’s.
They really cued in on our run last season and did a decent job stopping it. Then Zac went 14/14, 295 yards, 0 INTs, and 3 TD’s.
UNCc special teams let up a TD against GW also.
They used auditory signals at the snap against GW. That’s going to be a disaster if they try it at the Rock. I don’t know if Healy heard about our crowd’s reputation but I don’t expect he’ll be hearing much of anything on Saturday.
Even without Sutton, People’s, and possibly two more, UNCc doesn’t have the horses for this game. I’m not saying they haven’t improved or that we aren’t still growing with new schemes, but I think that Vegas spread will be pretty close to the final differential.
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Sutton will be back. First game was team direction, second was the University. Most likely, charges will get dropped. He has served his time, he will be back and hungry for UNC I'm sure.PhillyApp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:03 pmI get that mindset, but would like to hope/think that a 2 game suspension is enough for a college kid that got caught with drugs that are legal in several states across the country...mountaineerman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:47 pmI like the positive attitude. My guess is Sutton will not be back until his court date is settled. As a coach I don’t see how you can. We are balling without him .
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I got the whole thing right.NWA49 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:26 pmWell ya got the ST part right.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:15 amThe only thing I saw from our team that gave me pause last weekend was the soft coverage/pass defense. It tightened up in the red zone (as it often does) and ultimately only let up 7 points to an FCS conference champ.
UNCC doesn’t have a QB that set himself apart in an entire off season. As football guys often utter: 2=0. Reynolds seemed to clearly lead their offense better against GW. That guy virtually played the whole game against us last year and went 12/22, 108 yards, 1 INT, and 0 TD’s.
They really cued in on our run last season and did a decent job stopping it. Then Zac went 14/14, 295 yards, 0 INTs, and 3 TD’s.
UNCc special teams let up a TD against GW also.
They used auditory signals at the snap against GW. That’s going to be a disaster if they try it at the Rock. I don’t know if Healy heard about our crowd’s reputation but I don’t expect he’ll be hearing much of anything on Saturday.
Even without Sutton, People’s, and possibly two more, UNCc doesn’t have the horses for this game. I’m not saying they haven’t improved or that we aren’t still growing with new schemes, but I think that Vegas spread will be pretty close to the final differential.
Evans catching an onside attempt and returning it for a TD was a classic example of UNCC improving, yet not having the horses. We won by 17 when the spread was 21.
I really can’t imagine what it’s like for a fan when your program’s crowning achievement after 7 years is merely losing by 17 to another G5 school. If we played Clemson or Bama and kept it to 17 (and being dominated in 2/3 phases of the game) our fans wouldn’t celebrate at all, yet UNCC fans are dancing in the streets like Healy after Gardner Webb. It’s a fascinating culture divide between App/Niner Nations.
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Charlotte played even with us. The yardage difference came in that they had one more possession than we. Both teams moved the ball well on undisciplined defenses.
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It's like I said to either you or T-Dog on Twitter - they may have improved some, but still have a losers mentality, which will never take them to the heights that they they think they're just on the cusp of (at least the fans, anyway). Celebrating that loss as a measuring stick only works in the movies. They still have a very, very long way to go before they reach the level of sustained success that schools like App (and to a greater extent Boise St and UCF) have been able to reach.Gonzo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:03 amI got the whole thing right.
Evans catching an onside attempt and returning it for a TD was a classic example of UNCC improving, yet not having the horses. We won by 17 when the spread was 21.
I really can’t imagine what it’s like for a fan when your program’s crowning achievement after 7 years is merely losing by 17 to another G5 school. If we played Clemson or Bama and kept it to 17 (and being dominated in 2/3 phases of the game) our fans wouldn’t celebrate at all, yet UNCC fans are dancing in the streets like Healy after Gardner Webb. It’s a fascinating culture divide between App/Niner Nations.
Healy looks to be a good coach, and appears to have good assistants around him. They certainly have some horses in the stable. Time will tell if they can put it all together and be a class program in G5.
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Pretty sure you mentioned in another thread we couldn’t score 20. You said we don’t have a QB. You said the rock noise would disrupt our offense. You gave some credit to our run D, that was wrong too! You did say you were worried about your pass defense, so ya got that right too.Gonzo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:03 amI got the whole thing right.NWA49 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:26 pmWell ya got the ST part right.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:15 amThe only thing I saw from our team that gave me pause last weekend was the soft coverage/pass defense. It tightened up in the red zone (as it often does) and ultimately only let up 7 points to an FCS conference champ.
UNCC doesn’t have a QB that set himself apart in an entire off season. As football guys often utter: 2=0. Reynolds seemed to clearly lead their offense better against GW. That guy virtually played the whole game against us last year and went 12/22, 108 yards, 1 INT, and 0 TD’s.
They really cued in on our run last season and did a decent job stopping it. Then Zac went 14/14, 295 yards, 0 INTs, and 3 TD’s.
UNCc special teams let up a TD against GW also.
They used auditory signals at the snap against GW. That’s going to be a disaster if they try it at the Rock. I don’t know if Healy heard about our crowd’s reputation but I don’t expect he’ll be hearing much of anything on Saturday.
Even without Sutton, People’s, and possibly two more, UNCc doesn’t have the horses for this game. I’m not saying they haven’t improved or that we aren’t still growing with new schemes, but I think that Vegas spread will be pretty close to the final differential.
Evans catching an onside attempt and returning it for a TD was a classic example of UNCC improving, yet not having the horses. We won by 17 when the spread was 21.
I really can’t imagine what it’s like for a fan when your program’s crowning achievement after 7 years is merely losing by 17 to another G5 school. If we played Clemson or Bama and kept it to 17 (and being dominated in 2/3 phases of the game) our fans wouldn’t celebrate at all, yet UNCC fans are dancing in the streets like Healy after Gardner Webb. It’s a fascinating culture divide between App/Niner Nations.
As far as our fanbase, you don’t understand it because you don’t have any clue what it’s like to start a program. You showed up and App was winning, how hard is that to deal with? Our program, for most of our fanbase was born out of our efforts and we knew it would be a uphill climb to compete in college football. You don’t roll out a winning program and you don’t wave your hand and start winning games your 4th and 5th year of program existence in FBS ball. You don’t understand it because you haven’t had to experience it. I won’t hold that against you, it’s easier to be a fan of a team that just wins for all or most of your time following them.
We went on the road with mostly the same team as last year, to a team that crushed us last year at home, who is extremely difficult to compete with at home, who was receiving top 25 votes and who is clearly one of the top G5 programs and we were within a score with 3 mins to play. Sure we would have preferred to win and some of the mistakes, like the blocked punt, have pissed us off, but it shows clear growth and in year 7, 5 of FBS that’s what we need and why we changed staffs.
Hopefully y’all will beat Chapel Hill and we can at least agree on that.
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I think UNCC is night and day from where they were last year. Was talking to a UNCC grad yesterday and said just as much. It’s looking like y’all made a homerun hire in Healy IMO, i was pretty impressed with his offense. I’ll be surprised if y’all don’t finish in the top of CUSA. Good luck the rest of the way.NWA49 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:50 amPretty sure you mentioned in another thread we couldn’t score 20. You said we don’t have a QB. You said the rock noise would disrupt our offense. You gave some credit to our run D, that was wrong too! You did say you were worried about your pass defense, so ya got that right too.Gonzo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:03 amI got the whole thing right.NWA49 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:26 pmWell ya got the ST part right.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:15 amThe only thing I saw from our team that gave me pause last weekend was the soft coverage/pass defense. It tightened up in the red zone (as it often does) and ultimately only let up 7 points to an FCS conference champ.
UNCC doesn’t have a QB that set himself apart in an entire off season. As football guys often utter: 2=0. Reynolds seemed to clearly lead their offense better against GW. That guy virtually played the whole game against us last year and went 12/22, 108 yards, 1 INT, and 0 TD’s.
They really cued in on our run last season and did a decent job stopping it. Then Zac went 14/14, 295 yards, 0 INTs, and 3 TD’s.
UNCc special teams let up a TD against GW also.
They used auditory signals at the snap against GW. That’s going to be a disaster if they try it at the Rock. I don’t know if Healy heard about our crowd’s reputation but I don’t expect he’ll be hearing much of anything on Saturday.
Even without Sutton, People’s, and possibly two more, UNCc doesn’t have the horses for this game. I’m not saying they haven’t improved or that we aren’t still growing with new schemes, but I think that Vegas spread will be pretty close to the final differential.
Evans catching an onside attempt and returning it for a TD was a classic example of UNCC improving, yet not having the horses. We won by 17 when the spread was 21.
I really can’t imagine what it’s like for a fan when your program’s crowning achievement after 7 years is merely losing by 17 to another G5 school. If we played Clemson or Bama and kept it to 17 (and being dominated in 2/3 phases of the game) our fans wouldn’t celebrate at all, yet UNCC fans are dancing in the streets like Healy after Gardner Webb. It’s a fascinating culture divide between App/Niner Nations.
As far as our fanbase, you don’t understand it because you don’t have any clue what it’s like to start a program. You showed up and App was winning, how hard is that to deal with? Our program, for most of our fanbase was born out of our efforts and we knew it would be a uphill climb to compete in college football. You don’t roll out a winning program and you don’t wave your hand and start winning games your 4th and 5th year of program existence in FBS ball. You don’t understand it because you haven’t had to experience it. I won’t hold that against you, it’s easier to be a fan of a team that just wins for all or most of your time following them.
We went on the road with mostly the same team as last year, to a team that crushed us last year at home, who is extremely difficult to compete with at home, who was receiving top 25 votes and who is clearly one of the top G5 programs and we were within a score with 3 mins to play. Sure we would have preferred to win and some of the mistakes, like the blocked punt, have pissed us off, but it shows clear growth and in year 7, 5 of FBS that’s what we need and why we changed staffs.
Hopefully y’all will beat Chapel Hill and we can at least agree on that.
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I'd be shocked if they don't make a bowl game, get UMass next week, then get to play 8 games vs CUSA, they should win at least five of those. Through two weeks CUSA has clearly been the worst conference.
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Good thing you weren't around during the Mike Working years. You would have seen just as bad from us and we had no excuse of being a start up program.Gonzo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:03 amI got the whole thing right.NWA49 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:26 pmWell ya got the ST part right.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:15 amThe only thing I saw from our team that gave me pause last weekend was the soft coverage/pass defense. It tightened up in the red zone (as it often does) and ultimately only let up 7 points to an FCS conference champ.
UNCC doesn’t have a QB that set himself apart in an entire off season. As football guys often utter: 2=0. Reynolds seemed to clearly lead their offense better against GW. That guy virtually played the whole game against us last year and went 12/22, 108 yards, 1 INT, and 0 TD’s.
They really cued in on our run last season and did a decent job stopping it. Then Zac went 14/14, 295 yards, 0 INTs, and 3 TD’s.
UNCc special teams let up a TD against GW also.
They used auditory signals at the snap against GW. That’s going to be a disaster if they try it at the Rock. I don’t know if Healy heard about our crowd’s reputation but I don’t expect he’ll be hearing much of anything on Saturday.
Even without Sutton, People’s, and possibly two more, UNCc doesn’t have the horses for this game. I’m not saying they haven’t improved or that we aren’t still growing with new schemes, but I think that Vegas spread will be pretty close to the final differential.
Evans catching an onside attempt and returning it for a TD was a classic example of UNCC improving, yet not having the horses. We won by 17 when the spread was 21.
I really can’t imagine what it’s like for a fan when your program’s crowning achievement after 7 years is merely losing by 17 to another G5 school. If we played Clemson or Bama and kept it to 17 (and being dominated in 2/3 phases of the game) our fans wouldn’t celebrate at all, yet UNCC fans are dancing in the streets like Healy after Gardner Webb. It’s a fascinating culture divide between App/Niner Nations.
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Is the UMass game at UNC-C or U Mass?
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Agree on the Mike Working years, not fun, remember he came and spoke at our dorm once. We were definitely more of a basketball school back then.NewApp wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:49 amGood thing you weren't around during the Mike Working years. You would have seen just as bad from us and we had no excuse of being a start up program.Gonzo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:03 amI got the whole thing right.NWA49 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:26 pmWell ya got the ST part right.Gonzo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:15 amThe only thing I saw from our team that gave me pause last weekend was the soft coverage/pass defense. It tightened up in the red zone (as it often does) and ultimately only let up 7 points to an FCS conference champ.
UNCC doesn’t have a QB that set himself apart in an entire off season. As football guys often utter: 2=0. Reynolds seemed to clearly lead their offense better against GW. That guy virtually played the whole game against us last year and went 12/22, 108 yards, 1 INT, and 0 TD’s.
They really cued in on our run last season and did a decent job stopping it. Then Zac went 14/14, 295 yards, 0 INTs, and 3 TD’s.
UNCc special teams let up a TD against GW also.
They used auditory signals at the snap against GW. That’s going to be a disaster if they try it at the Rock. I don’t know if Healy heard about our crowd’s reputation but I don’t expect he’ll be hearing much of anything on Saturday.
Even without Sutton, People’s, and possibly two more, UNCc doesn’t have the horses for this game. I’m not saying they haven’t improved or that we aren’t still growing with new schemes, but I think that Vegas spread will be pretty close to the final differential.
Evans catching an onside attempt and returning it for a TD was a classic example of UNCC improving, yet not having the horses. We won by 17 when the spread was 21.
I really can’t imagine what it’s like for a fan when your program’s crowning achievement after 7 years is merely losing by 17 to another G5 school. If we played Clemson or Bama and kept it to 17 (and being dominated in 2/3 phases of the game) our fans wouldn’t celebrate at all, yet UNCC fans are dancing in the streets like Healy after Gardner Webb. It’s a fascinating culture divide between App/Niner Nations.
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Listening to Stanford Steve and The Bear’s gambling podcast this morning and they actually brought up UNCC. Steve went on to say how impressed he was with Will Healy, compared him to Andy Dufrane crawling out of the jail in comparison to the job he did at Austin Peay. Also mentioned how impressed he was with their offense. Then went on to say the smart play is UNCC -19 against UMass Saturday. Just some food for thought.