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[ASUFan4863]

Predicted to win the east preseason. Supposed to be loaded with talent. 5-5. Most disappointing APP football team in years.

Maybe the most disappointing Ever!

No doubt disappointing, but were we way overrated to begin with predictions??? Was replacing 9 starters on Defense I think? Toughest schedule we've had in years. Loss of key offensive leaders. There was a possibility of a let down.

How hard we hit the transfer portal this spring for OL & DBs, I think the coaches knew it was going to be tough.

IDK, I have no problem with Coach Clarks aggressive identity, I just don't think he has the horses up front to get the job done.

He recruited and coached those horses!!!!! Why is it all of a sudden a player issue after years of 1,000 yard rushers?

[Old Justice]

No toughness at all, these guys don’t belong in an app state uniform. They’re soft. They’re quitters.

We don't pick on the kids, and they didn't quit.
Coaching sucks, the kids don't

Kids didn't quit, but this wasn't on the coaches either. It's a talent issue at several key spots.

The "talent" didn't make the call not to kick a field goal. On the coaches.

A FG doesn't win the game, nor does it tie it.

What??????? There were 5 freaking minutes left in the game. There is no stat or analytic that tells you to pass on a 30 yard FG.

[CoachRob]

We don't pick on the kids, and they didn't quit.
Coaching sucks, the kids don't

Kids didn't quit, but this wasn't on the coaches either. It's a talent issue at several key spots.

The "talent" didn't make the call not to kick a field goal. On the coaches.

A FG doesn't win the game, nor does it tie it.

Was still an arrogant call. And dumb considering our 3rd and 4th down success rate. Analytics my ass.

3rd & 4th down success rate like our secondary's inability to successfully cover? I have faith in our run defense but not the pass. Going for it wasn't a dumb call.

[GlassOnion]

Gillian has already we need to continue to win. He will not be passive.

As much as he has done for App, alot of this is on his shoulders. He hired a HC with no experience, and little connection, resources and experience with which to pull a competent staff together. 2nd, he allowed Dale Jones to fill the DC job, after he had shown no inclination of success as an FCS coordinator. Third, he gave Clark a huge extension after a blowout loss. Ridiculous. Only in athletics and Government can you perform so ridiculously and keep your seat.

[GlassOnion]

Kids didn't quit, but this wasn't on the coaches either. It's a talent issue at several key spots.

The "talent" didn't make the call not to kick a field goal. On the coaches.

A FG doesn't win the game, nor does it tie it.

Was still an arrogant call. And dumb considering our 3rd and 4th down success rate. Analytics my ass.

3rd & 4th down success rate like our secondary's inability to successfully cover? I have faith in our run defense but not the pass. Going for it wasn't a dumb call.

Then we'll agree to disagree, and I tip my hat to you for your opinion, sharing and sticking to it.

[CoachRob]

Predicted to win the east preseason. Supposed to be loaded with talent. 5-5. Most disappointing APP football team in years.

Maybe the most disappointing Ever!

No doubt disappointing, but were we way overrated to begin with predictions??? Was replacing 9 starters on Defense I think? Toughest schedule we've had in years. Loss of key offensive leaders. There was a possibility of a let down.

How hard we hit the transfer portal this spring for OL & DBs, I think the coaches knew it was going to be tough.

IDK, I have no problem with Coach Clarks aggressive identity, I just don't think he has the horses up front to get the job done.

He recruited and coached those horses!!!!! Why is it all of a sudden a player issue after years of 1,000 yard rushers?

Maybe because we are starting 2 FCS transfers on the OL? This is a result of recruiting during the coaching transition years. Not all on Clark.

[Old Justice]

Kids didn't quit, but this wasn't on the coaches either. It's a talent issue at several key spots.

The "talent" didn't make the call not to kick a field goal. On the coaches.

A FG doesn't win the game, nor does it tie it.

Was still an arrogant call. And dumb considering our 3rd and 4th down success rate. Analytics my ass.

3rd & 4th down success rate like our secondary's inability to successfully cover? I have faith in our run defense but not the pass. Going for it wasn't a dumb call.

I’m hoping you don’t coach football. You couldn’t be more wrong. Take the points

[ASUFan4863]

Predicted to win the east preseason. Supposed to be loaded with talent. 5-5. Most disappointing APP football team in years.

Maybe the most disappointing Ever!

No doubt disappointing, but were we way overrated to begin with predictions??? Was replacing 9 starters on Defense I think? Toughest schedule we've had in years. Loss of key offensive leaders. There was a possibility of a let down.

How hard we hit the transfer portal this spring for OL & DBs, I think the coaches knew it was going to be tough.

IDK, I have no problem with Coach Clarks aggressive identity, I just don't think he has the horses up front to get the job done.

He recruited and coached those horses!!!!! Why is it all of a sudden a player issue after years of 1,000 yard rushers?

Maybe because we are starting 2 FCS transfers on the OL? This is a result of recruiting during the coaching transition years. Not all on Clark.

I don’t mind blaming secondary and other positions on recruiting. Shawn Clark has been the one constant in the coaching staff for the last several years coaching and recruiting the OL. If we have problems recruiting at OL when we have an OL head coach, then that is an issue don’t you think?

[Mjohn1988]

Offense, we have everything but a line….if you don’t have a line you simply don’t have an offense…you can dress it up for a while but not for too long…

Defense… I hate to be this harsh but we don’t have much..

I put this on the head coach….he’s in charge of everything….including recruiting and player development…. We haven’t done a good job at either of those two things

[App_in_Maiden]

Can’t wait to hear the post game interview.

[CoachRob]

The "talent" didn't make the call not to kick a field goal. On the coaches.

A FG doesn't win the game, nor does it tie it.

Was still an arrogant call. And dumb considering our 3rd and 4th down success rate. Analytics my ass.

3rd & 4th down success rate like our secondary's inability to successfully cover? I have faith in our run defense but not the pass. Going for it wasn't a dumb call.

I’m hoping you don’t coach football. You couldn’t be more wrong. Take the points

Kick a FG will still require we score a TD. No guarantee of another possession near the Redzone. FG doesn't make that much sense.
We don't kick a lot of FG and I don't think it's our strong suit.
If coach knows we are better going for it than kicking a 40 some yard FG that still requires us to kick a TD, than the smart move is to go for it.

[AppInDC]

The "talent" didn't make the call not to kick a field goal. On the coaches.

A FG doesn't win the game, nor does it tie it.

Was still an arrogant call. And dumb considering our 3rd and 4th down success rate. Analytics my ass.

3rd & 4th down success rate like our secondary's inability to successfully cover? I have faith in our run defense but not the pass. Going for it wasn't a dumb call.

I’m hoping you don’t coach football. You couldn’t be more wrong. Take the points

Are you talking about the 4th and 1? Modern analytics and thought absolutely does say go for it in a situation like that and not take the 3 points. You continuing to insinuate that people who say otherwise don't know football is sad because they clearly are up to date with current thinking.

[QueencityApp]

Our offense requires a mobile QB at the G5 level. Fact. Name me the last App St team that succeeded with a true pocket passing QB not named Joe Burchette. Chase has been great for our program and I’d not replace him for anybody. We do not have a SEC line though and need a mobile QB to help with the lackluster line play.

[Schundy38]

Just stopping by to see the carnage. Hate to loose. Does give me a reason to drink. Which I have been today for a while. I guess we should.fire all coaches and not renew any scholarships. See you next week. Go App!

[bigdaddyg]

The "talent" didn't make the call not to kick a field goal. On the coaches.

A FG doesn't win the game, nor does it tie it.

Was still an arrogant call. And dumb considering our 3rd and 4th down success rate. Analytics my ass.

3rd & 4th down success rate like our secondary's inability to successfully cover? I have faith in our run defense but not the pass. Going for it wasn't a dumb call.

I’m hoping you don’t coach football. You couldn’t be more wrong. Take the points

With 5 minutes left down 7 why would you absolutely kick a FG to get down by 4? You still have to kick off, get a stop, get the ball back and still score a TD. If you go for it and get stopped you have them backed up a bit and still need the other stuff but the difference is if you do execute and score you take some uncertainties out of the equation. Easy to second guess when it doesn't work out.

[CoachRob]

Maybe the most disappointing Ever!

No doubt disappointing, but were we way overrated to begin with predictions??? Was replacing 9 starters on Defense I think? Toughest schedule we've had in years. Loss of key offensive leaders. There was a possibility of a let down.

How hard we hit the transfer portal this spring for OL & DBs, I think the coaches knew it was going to be tough.

IDK, I have no problem with Coach Clarks aggressive identity, I just don't think he has the horses up front to get the job done.

He recruited and coached those horses!!!!! Why is it all of a sudden a player issue after years of 1,000 yard rushers?

Maybe because we are starting 2 FCS transfers on the OL? This is a result of recruiting during the coaching transition years. Not all on Clark.

I don’t mind blaming secondary and other positions on recruiting. Shawn Clark has been the one constant in the coaching staff for the last several years coaching and recruiting the OL. If we have problems recruiting at OL when we have an OL head coach, then that is an issue don’t you think?

The issue was during the transition from Satt to Clark, which is not all on Clark, but sure he can get some of the blame. I think it's a problem that takes a year however, maybe two to solve.

[ah59396]

Can’t wait to hear the post game interview.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, because it seems there’s blood in the water for the “fire this guy” crowd, but I hate this for SC.

I always watch these post game interviews, the man wears his emotions on his sleeve. When we beat TAMU you could see what it mean to him. And when we lose you can see the reality of it on his face. I hate seeing that. SC is more Mountaineer than anyone on this board, I’m sure no one wants App to be successful more than he does.

It’s starting to look like he might not be the guy, and that sucks. I don’t get the joy some have in that.

[App_in_Maiden]

Can’t wait to hear the post game interview.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, because it seems there’s blood in the water for the “fire this guy” crowd, but I hate this for SC.

I always watch these post game interviews, the man wears his emotions on his sleeve. When we beat TAMU you could see what it mean to him. And when we lose you can see the reality of it on his face. I hate seeing that. SC is more Mountaineer than anyone on this board, I’m sure no one wants App to be successful more than he does.

It’s starting to look like he might not be the guy, and that sucks. I don’t get the joy some have in that.

I’m with you 100%. I’m just tired of hearing we are going to change things and then we come out play the same way we did the week before. I love his love for App, but like you said, it’s looking like he isn’t the right guy for the job.

[spacemonkey]

Our offense requires a mobile QB at the G5 level. Fact. Name me the last App St team that succeeded with a true pocket passing QB not named Joe Burchette. Chase has been great for our program and I’d not replace him for anybody. We do not have a SEC line though and need a mobile QB to help with the lackluster line play.

Spot on...I have been saying it all year. No team winning is running out type offense. Someone please show me one....one that is winning.

[JohnnyBurrito]

Can’t wait to hear the post game interview.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, because it seems there’s blood in the water for the “fire this guy” crowd, but I hate this for SC.

I always watch these post game interviews, the man wears his emotions on his sleeve. When we beat TAMU you could see what it mean to him. And when we lose you can see the reality of it on his face. I hate seeing that. SC is more Mountaineer than anyone on this board, I’m sure no one wants App to be successful more than he does.

It’s starting to look like he might not be the guy, and that sucks. I don’t get the joy some have in that.

Well said.

I don’t think many get joy out of those comments, just letting out frustration.