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Unread post by GoApps70 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:25 pm

Sounds like a probability that Lamb will be the QB back up and Caruso may redshirt.

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/fo ... c4bee.html

“Taylor has been really impressive this fall camp and we feel comfortable in his capability to run our offense,” said Frank Ponce, the Mountaineers’ co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. “He has grasped what to do in the offense very well.”
Lamb, 6-2 and 200 pounds, is from Calhoun, Ga., and is the son of Bobby Lamb, the head coach at Mercer and former head coach at Furman.
“Taylor is a very heady kid, he understands what he’s doing,” Ponce said. “He has the timing down with receivers and makes good reads. Neither he or J.P. are blazing runners but they’re efficient in their running.”
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Re: At QB Lamb Back-up & Caruso may Redshirt per W-S Journal

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:49 pm

GoApps70 wrote:Sounds like a probability that Lamb will be the QB back up and Caruso may redshirt.

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/fo ... c4bee.html

“Taylor has been really impressive this fall camp and we feel comfortable in his capability to run our offense,” said Frank Ponce, the Mountaineers’ co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. “He has grasped what to do in the offense very well.”
Lamb, 6-2 and 200 pounds, is from Calhoun, Ga., and is the son of Bobby Lamb, the head coach at Mercer and former head coach at Furman.
“Taylor is a very heady kid, he understands what he’s doing,” Ponce said. “He has the timing down with receivers and makes good reads. Neither he or J.P. are blazing runners but they’re efficient in their running.”
Given the Lamb history I am looking forward to seeing him have some playing time. I hope to make the Campbell game. That should allow some time for the back-ups.
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Re: At QB Lamb Back-up & Caruso may Redshirt per W-S Journal

Unread post by moehler » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:57 pm

no surprises here, we need depth at the position, and redshirting Caruso makes sense, he looks like he has a bright future, keep hearing about the strength of his arm, and what a good athlete he is. Great to hear about Lamb having a great fall camp, started to get worried with all minor injuries that seem to slow him down, looks like he is finally healthy. He might be our 2nd string qb, but if the OL doesn't protect the qb better this year, Lamb might be playing alot more than he planned.

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Unread post by APPARJ » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:24 am

I watched several practices and I did not think there was much difference between Kam and Taylor. Kam is obviously the starter but I would not be shaken by Taylor Lamb taking the reigns of the offense.

One thing that stood out to me during practice regarding Taylor vs. Kam is that Taylor seems to make decisions quicker and is more apt to throwing vertically.

However, I am far from a QB expert. But that's my $0.02.
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Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:52 am

That's a good article and confirms pretty much everything I assumed heading into camp August 1.

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APPARJ wrote:I watched several practices and I did not think there was much difference between Kam and Taylor. Kam is obviously the starter but I would not be shaken by Taylor Lamb taking the reigns of the offense.

One thing that stood out to me during practice regarding Taylor vs. Kam is that Taylor seems to make decisions quicker and is more apt to throwing vertically.

However, I am far from a QB expert. But that's my $0.02.
Vertical meaning goal line to goal line and as in up and down the field and
Horizontal meaning sideline to sideline.

Correct?
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Unread post by APPARJ » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:09 pm

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
APPARJ wrote:I watched several practices and I did not think there was much difference between Kam and Taylor. Kam is obviously the starter but I would not be shaken by Taylor Lamb taking the reigns of the offense.

One thing that stood out to me during practice regarding Taylor vs. Kam is that Taylor seems to make decisions quicker and is more apt to throwing vertically.

However, I am far from a QB expert. But that's my $0.02.
Vertical meaning goal line to goal line and as in up and down the field and
Horizontal meaning sideline to sideline.

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Correct. That is why I think Kam's completion percentage record can be misleading. Most of his passes were 4-6 yard dump off passes towards the sideline. I like Kam very much but I think we need a more vertical game from our QBs to put points on the board.
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Re: At QB Lamb Back-up & Caruso may Redshirt per W-S Journal

Unread post by hapapp » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:27 pm

APPARJ wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
APPARJ wrote:I watched several practices and I did not think there was much difference between Kam and Taylor. Kam is obviously the starter but I would not be shaken by Taylor Lamb taking the reigns of the offense.

One thing that stood out to me during practice regarding Taylor vs. Kam is that Taylor seems to make decisions quicker and is more apt to throwing vertically.

However, I am far from a QB expert. But that's my $0.02.
Vertical meaning goal line to goal line and as in up and down the field and
Horizontal meaning sideline to sideline.

Correct?
Correct. That is why I think Kam's completion percentage record can be misleading. Most of his passes were 4-6 yard dump off passes towards the sideline. I like Kam very much but I think we need a more vertical game from our QBs to put points on the board.
I think we can agree that he needs to improve his arm strength on the vertical passing game. However, to state that most of his passes were 4-6 dump offs to the sideline is a disservice to Kam's play at QB. His favorite targets were Peacock and Washington, their routes tended to take them down the field more than 4 yards.

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Re: At QB Lamb Back-up & Caruso may Redshirt per W-S Journal

Unread post by APPARJ » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:24 pm

hapapp wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
APPARJ wrote:I watched several practices and I did not think there was much difference between Kam and Taylor. Kam is obviously the starter but I would not be shaken by Taylor Lamb taking the reigns of the offense.

One thing that stood out to me during practice regarding Taylor vs. Kam is that Taylor seems to make decisions quicker and is more apt to throwing vertically.

However, I am far from a QB expert. But that's my $0.02.
Vertical meaning goal line to goal line and as in up and down the field and
Horizontal meaning sideline to sideline.

Correct?
Correct. That is why I think Kam's completion percentage record can be misleading. Most of his passes were 4-6 yard dump off passes towards the sideline. I like Kam very much but I think we need a more vertical game from our QBs to put points on the board.
I think we can agree that he needs to improve his arm strength on the vertical passing game. However, to state that most of his passes were 4-6 dump offs to the sideline is a disservice to Kam's play at QB. His favorite targets were Peacock and Washington, their routes tended to take them down the field more than 4 yards.
I haven't crunched the numbers so I can't actually say that most of his passes were 4-6 yards. However, as someone who watched all 12 games (11 in person) I am very confident in saying that most of the passes he threw were either underneath the first down marker or to the sideline. Again, I'm not saying Kam is a bad QB by any stretch. You don't throw for 2500+ yards with 4 interceptions playing D1 ball if you're a scrub.

We need a strong vertical game to be successful, especially in the Sun Belt. Part of that dynamic includes the WRs performing up to task. However, I believe most of it falls on the QB to find opportunities down field and execute. From watching Kam last fall and this year in camp, I wonder if that's something he can do well. I genuinely hope so because I think Kam is an exemplary representative of App State football.
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Unread post by hapapp » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:39 pm

APPARJ wrote:
hapapp wrote:
APPARJ wrote:
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
APPARJ wrote:I watched several practices and I did not think there was much difference between Kam and Taylor. Kam is obviously the starter but I would not be shaken by Taylor Lamb taking the reigns of the offense.

One thing that stood out to me during practice regarding Taylor vs. Kam is that Taylor seems to make decisions quicker and is more apt to throwing vertically.

However, I am far from a QB expert. But that's my $0.02.
Vertical meaning goal line to goal line and as in up and down the field and
Horizontal meaning sideline to sideline.

Correct?
Correct. That is why I think Kam's completion percentage record can be misleading. Most of his passes were 4-6 yard dump off passes towards the sideline. I like Kam very much but I think we need a more vertical game from our QBs to put points on the board.
I think we can agree that he needs to improve his arm strength on the vertical passing game. However, to state that most of his passes were 4-6 dump offs to the sideline is a disservice to Kam's play at QB. His favorite targets were Peacock and Washington, their routes tended to take them down the field more than 4 yards.
I haven't crunched the numbers so I can't actually say that most of his passes were 4-6 yards. However, as someone who watched all 12 games (11 in person) I am very confident in saying that most of the passes he threw were either underneath the first down marker or to the sideline. Again, I'm not saying Kam is a bad QB by any stretch. You don't throw for 2500+ yards with 4 interceptions playing D1 ball if you're a scrub.

We need a strong vertical game to be successful, especially in the Sun Belt. Part of that dynamic includes the WRs performing up to task. However, I believe most of it falls on the QB to find opportunities down field and execute. From watching Kam last fall and this year in camp, I wonder if that's something he can do well. I genuinely hope so because I think Kam is an exemplary representative of App State football.
With that, I can agree.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:44 pm

I think some fans mistake yards from line of scrimmage as easier passes than "vertical" passes. I would argue that many times those out patterns short of the first down markers or quick slants are more difficult throws than "long bombs". They absolutely have a higher risk, not necessarily of interception, but an interception on a quick out or quick slant and you are looking most likely at a TD going the other way --- I think we all have agreed that Kam needed to improve his deep ball threat but don't undersell his efficiency at making the "dangerous throws" ---
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Unread post by moehler » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:04 pm

its tough to assess Bryant's play last year, he was hurt, and we were down to just 2 qbs. I'm sure that factored in SS game decisions to throw short quick passes to protect Bryant and just get us through, what was essentially a wasted season. I think, unfortunately, with such a young group of receivers, and an offensive line that, at best, is a work in progress, we are going to see alot more bubble screens, quick slants, and quick outs. Really worries me going into this season, a team like Michgan, with a strong secondary, are licking their chops to get at us, they are going and try to jump every route, jam us at the line, and dare us to try running past them.

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Unread post by IGgreer » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:25 pm

I hope Lamb gets some meaningful snaps this season. No offense to Kam at all, but if we go 4-8 again you have to give Lamb some on the job training. Build for the future.

Kam is still the clear cut guy for no. 1 though.

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Unread post by moehler » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:33 am

agree, if we go, 1-4, and things don't look good for the rest of the season, I think it would be smart for SS to give Lamb a few extra reps each game, doesn't need to start him, just get him some game experience

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