Charlie Cobb was right ---

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 8:18 pm

Some people have trouble comprehending --- here is my line from the very first post

- "I have really enjoyed "most" of the last two seasons and thoroughly this season - there are so many benefits to be FBS - It has been a great journey !!!

firemoose · Unread post by **firemoose** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:24 pm

Good grief. I haven't been reading most threads outside of the recruiting threads lately simply because things seem to have a way of spinning completely out of control these days. Worse than I can remember in a while. And I'm not going to read all of this one. I will say one thing though. As far as I know WV is not pro FCS/anti FBS from those times I have discussed it with him. He had some reservations when the move was first announced (as did a lot of people I talked with) but he asked me about it and I told him that, based on most experts opinions, that we were heading towards another full break and the FCS division would more than likely be the new D-II with around 50 ships, with the G5 being more of the second level, but a level that we fit more since it contained schools closer to our size than where we were at. Each time realignment has started in the past 3-4 years something has cropped up that has stopped it but they will eventually run out of or solve the issues and the "final" moves will begin again. It's all up to the P5's when it will happen and what form it will take. And the G5's, especially when C-USA's TV contract expires this coming year (and they're in for a shock when they try and get the new deal done), will have to make moves to save money. We moved where we did, when we did, simply to get on the dance floor.

I don't know where this thread started but from the last couple of posts I can see where it's at. There are several people on here that are anti FBS, and we all know who they are. But nothing I've heard from WVAPP in the past couple of years has said he's one of them. Maybe words got mixed up or people just took things the wrong way, as happens often on here. And I'm sure the title didn't help, as anything with the word "Cobb" in it will open up a big can of worms, or maggots. I do know one thing. This is a perfect example of why I've stopped posting. No matter what someone says on here someone else will get offended and then it's on. This board has gone from fun to "I'd better think twice about posting or someone is going to get pissed off". Very, very tired.

Saint3333 · Unread post by **Saint3333** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:59 pm

Cobb was right, we belonged in the FBS and needed to get out of the FCS.

Merry. Christmas everyone, never been a better time to be a Mountaineer than today!

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tjpappy · Unread post by **tjpappy** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:31 am

I think the success of App and GaSouthern in the Sunbelt primarily speaks to the strength of these two teams. Would any other SoCon teams have had similar success in the Sunbelt? - No. Our success flows from not only from the strength of our players, but also the degree of structural support for athletics in general and football in particular.

Would we have had this level of success in ANY FBS Conference? No, not in ANY FBS conference ; Yes/possibly to some, absolutely not to others

However, the fact that we have been successful in our transition to FBS is not fully reliant upon joining a weaker conference. Success against FBS OOC teams shows that we are not just competitive against Sunbelt teams.

We were ready to move up and into the type of conference where we landed. We are now a part of the Sunbelt. Although the conference has a reputation for being weaker, the Sunbelt with the addition of App and GaSouthern is stronger than it was before we entered. In other words, I believe we are now in a somewhat stronger conference than the one that we entered.

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:35 am

tjpappy wrote:I think the success of App and GaSouthern in the Sunbelt primarily speaks to the strength of these two teams. Would any other SoCon teams have had similar success in the Sunbelt? - No. Our success flows from not only from the strength of our players, but also the degree of structural support for athletics in general and football in particular.

Would we have had this level of success in ANY FBS Conference? No, not in ANY FBS conference ; Yes/possibly to some, absolutely not to others

However, the fact that we have been successful in our transition to FBS is not fully reliant upon joining a weaker conference. Success against FBS OOC teams shows that we are not just competitive against Sunbelt teams.

We were ready to move up and into the type of conference where we landed. We are now a part of the Sunbelt. Although the conference has a reputation for being weaker, the Sunbelt with the addition of App and GaSouthern is stronger than it was before we entered. In other words, I believe we are now in a somewhat stronger conference than the one that we entered.

Thank you for taking the time to put together a cohesive, well thought out response - this was all I was looking for

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:09 am

AppinVA wrote:Would you quit? FCS is done for App, thankfully, and we are not going back. Quit trying to drive a divide through App nation in order to achieve your dreams of moving Appalachian a level below your beloved WVU.

Where in my name do you see WVU? - And if APP were playing WVU next week in the Peach Bowl (or any bowl) I would be firmly sitting on the APP side and cheering for an APP victory -
My love is for my HOME STATE of West Virginia - It is a love that I doubt any NC or VA person could match - My WV only makes the news when miners die, chemicals are dumped in river, strip mining destroying the mountain tops, or as the brunt of stupid jokes, however it is a state of unmatched beauty, honest hard-working people, people true to where they live. A West Virginian will carry that Mountaineer Pride his/her entire life, no matter where they go in this world. As you guys are driving around and you notice the WV logo on cars, trucks, flags be advised the primary reason the huge majority of people proudly display those is as an honor to the STATE with any athletic team coming in further down the list.
WEST VIRGINIA IS THE MOUNTAIN STATE - not the Tarheel State nor The Old Dominion
WEST VIRGINIA'S STATE MOTTO IS - MOUNTAINEERS WILL ALWAYS BE FREE
The adopted State Song is not a University Fight Song it is a song about the people and the state itself.
I have been blessed to be born and raised a West BY GOD Virginia Mountaineer !!!
Where else would you see the entire stadium sing a song about the STATE not a school fight song after a victory???
http://thebiglead.com/2012/10/02/stadiu ... lor-video/

AppinVA · Unread post by **AppinVA** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:37 am

Re: Satt already in the P5 conversation

PostNovember 13th, 2015, 2:40 pm

WVAppsfan wrote:
Too early for Satt, he will have his time in the conversation with a Power Five program. However he has much more to prove and accomplish here. The youth of the program, and future wins will place him in the arena to be courted. Until then, Go Coach and Go Apps.

Maybe he can eventually go get our "other Mountaineers" straightened out
Satt and Lonnie Galloway --- always a winning combination!!!

Okay. I'll take your word for it.

Edit: The quote function doesn't show it, but the last graph comes from you, Apper.

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:19 am

Peace on earth and....................well never mind that just is not going to work around here.

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:00 am

" our "other Mountaineers" " ---
Most people with a college degree could figure out the key word here was "OTHER" - "Other" doesn't mean favored or superior or better --- "Other" means "In addition to the one previously mentioned" ---

AppinVA · Unread post by **AppinVA** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:02 am

Yeah, App's coach ON App's board.

Bad form.

proasu89 · Unread post by **proasu89** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:53 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:" our "other Mountaineers" " ---
Most people with a college degree could figure out the key word here was "OTHER" - "Other" doesn't mean favored or superior or better --- "Other" means "In addition to the one previously mentioned" ---

Sorry, but 99.5 % of us here don't have any other Mountaineers

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:52 am

proasu89 wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:" our "other Mountaineers" " ---
Most people with a college degree could figure out the key word here was "OTHER" - "Other" doesn't mean favored or superior or better --- "Other" means "In addition to the one previously mentioned" ---
Sorry, but 99.5 % of us here don't have any other Mountaineers

True - but my response was directly to our other APP fan who was born and raised in West Virginia - WVAppsfan

Rekdiver · Unread post by **Rekdiver** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:07 am

If I might...for the health of this board....it would be nice to ignore/ refrain from commenting on posts that inflame your sensibilities...unless a UNC-c or GaSo poster comes here. Seriously, for your New Years resolution let's all make an effort to get back to intelligent analysis and observation that this board is known for. Lets move forward,look to the future...looking in the rear view mirror is as helpful as the Dallas Cowboys still talking about their 5 rings.( Of course I'm a Panthers fan).

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:20 am

AppinVA wrote:Yeah, App's coach ON App's board.

Bad form.

REALLY??? - Isn't this the same "App board" where idiots called for firing the "App coaches" ????????????????
Isn't your comment a bit weak? - Myself and a few others have supported Coach Satterfield and Coach Woody and all the others for 100% of the time they have coached here - Go back and look and find the idiots who endorsed the "HOUSE FOR SALE SIGN" and the "FIRE HIM NOW" post and the "WOODY MUST GO" posts --- If you dare take the time to enlist the facts you will find that this APP fan WVAPPeer NEVER took one step down that path - How about you Mr. AppinVa ? ---

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:19 am

Well there is SOME truth to it. They have been steadily adding FCS teams to build the conference. By all reasonable measures we are on the bottom rung and you can't expect APP and those Georgia guys to dramatically elevate the conference in two years. We have one more coming in next year so that slows us a little but we should soon climb as a conference. The last three adds have not exactly been bottom feeders but rather in the top of FCS. We will soon be in the middle of the pack as a conference and then who knows. It is about depth and we are still building it and Coastal has to start it. Rome was not built in a day and neither will the NEW Sun Belt. Give it 3-4 years and it will not be the same conference it is today much less 3-4 years ago.
Now I think I deserve an atta boy for saying this with out expressing an opinion on
Charlie
FCS vs FBS
Bowls VS Playoffs/NC
The track
or how I feel about the opinions of my fellow ASU fans
Can you give me a "PEACE ON EARTH"

ASUTodd · Unread post by **ASUTodd** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:25 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
AppinVA wrote:Yeah, App's coach ON App's board.

Bad form.
REALLY??? - Isn't this the same "App board" where idiots called for firing the "App coaches" ????????????????
Isn't your comment a bit weak? - Myself and a few others have supported Coach Satterfield and Coach Woody and all the others for 100% of the time they have coached here - Go back and look and find the idiots who endorsed the "HOUSE FOR SALE SIGN" and the "FIRE HIM NOW" post and the "WOODY MUST GO" posts --- If you dare take the time to enlist the facts you will find that this APP fan WVAPPeer NEVER took one step down that path - How about you Mr. AppinVa ? ---

Come on man, you can tell us. You're actually Jcline on a different account....aren't ya?

AppinVA · Unread post by **AppinVA** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:03 am

WVAPPeer wrote:
AppinVA wrote:Yeah, App's coach ON App's board.

Bad form.
REALLY??? - Isn't this the same "App board" where idiots called for firing the "App coaches" ????????????????
Isn't your comment a bit weak? - Myself and a few others have supported Coach Satterfield and Coach Woody and all the others for 100% of the time they have coached here - Go back and look and find the idiots who endorsed the "HOUSE FOR SALE SIGN" and the "FIRE HIM NOW" post and the "WOODY MUST GO" posts --- If you dare take the time to enlist the facts you will find that this APP fan WVAPPeer NEVER took one step down that path - How about you Mr. AppinVa ? ---

You're calling out the wrong dog on that one. I invite you to prove me wrong, but the evidence will show that I've been a Satterfield/Woody supporter the whole way. You may be old, but my App fandom is old as well. It goes back to before Satt took his first snap. I was at A&T in 1993. I was at Marshall and The Citadel in 1995. The man is a winner, and I've known it for over 20 years, and we both agree we're lucky to have him.

I will admit to not following the status quo blindly, like some do. I ask questions. But in this case, and in the case of our starting quarterback, I'm confident in their roles and abilities. I'll gladly plead guilty on other "offenses" against the lollipop guild, but not those.

WVAPPeer · Unread post by **WVAPPeer** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:10 am

No - didn't actually say you were one of the idiots who called for firings - it isn't hard to find out who made those comments - the point was --- you acted like it was a big deal that I jokingly mentioned Satt going to WVU to another WV native in a thread I did not start talking about the possibility of losing him here at APP - my point is if you really want to go after those who have disparaging comments about Satterfield and Woody go back to Oct 2014 ---

AppinVA · Unread post by **AppinVA** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:21 am

Substitute UNC-CHeat for WV, and you'd get a similar reaction from me.

Rekdiver · Unread post by **Rekdiver** » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:19 pm

I'm inviting you two boys to take your border war elsewhere

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