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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by tjpappy » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:05 pm

AppinVA wrote:ESPNU isn't always next to ESPN and ESPN2 in the line-up. I suspect, because it hasn't always been the case, many who get ESPNU do so, but don't realize it.
Was going to post something similar. On my cable Espn and ESPN2 and a few more sports channels are next to each other (around 30), but ESPNU is in the 300s. I did not initially realize I had it either.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by Yosef10 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:38 pm

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Yosef10 wrote:71 million households is a good amount of people. I went to the Ale house in Raleigh to watch both Thursday games and the game was on more than enough TVs.
A good amount of people is a fair description, but if ESPNU were comparable to ESPN or ESPN2 then why do 20 million less households have access to it? And why would we not be on either of the broader reaching? ESPNU is like, dare I say, the FCS of the ESPN networks.
It's 71 million households. A good amount of people was a sarcastic description. What point are you trying to make?

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:43 pm

If ESPNU reached 7M people it would be like the FCS of ESPN networks. 71M isn't Mickey Mouse as someone called it earlier.


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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by CVAPP » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:16 am

Saint3333 wrote:If ESPNU reached 7M people it would be like the FCS of ESPN networks. 71M isn't Mickey Mouse as someone called it earlier.
I called it mickey mouse and I am sticking with that and my comparison to the FCS of the ESPN networks. You don't have to agree with me and vice versa. I think we got the shaft this year schedule wise, and hope this does not become the norm.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:25 am

Mickey Mouse were the local PBS and SportSouth numbers.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:30 am

CVAPP wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:If ESPNU reached 7M people it would be like the FCS of ESPN networks. 71M isn't Mickey Mouse as someone called it earlier.
I called it mickey mouse and I am sticking with that and my comparison to the FCS of the ESPN networks. You don't have to agree with me and vice versa. I think we got the shaft this year schedule wise, and hope this does not become the norm.
ESPN 93M
ESPNU 71M

ESPNU might be the G5 of the ESPN networks, but not the "FCS".

The only part of the scheduled we got "screwed" on was the Thanksgiving game (2nd year in a row). We want to be the SBC game of the week and get on TV. This isn't about what's best for my personal schedule, this is about what is best for the program.

If we continue to have success in the SBC we will play 2 or 3 mid-weeks games and when we play GS, Ark St., ULL at home those games will be mid-week games.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by CVAPP » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:50 am

Saint3333 wrote:
CVAPP wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:If ESPNU reached 7M people it would be like the FCS of ESPN networks. 71M isn't Mickey Mouse as someone called it earlier.
I called it mickey mouse and I am sticking with that and my comparison to the FCS of the ESPN networks. You don't have to agree with me and vice versa. I think we got the shaft this year schedule wise, and hope this does not become the norm.
ESPN 93M
ESPNU 71M

ESPNU might be the G5 of the ESPN networks, but not the "FCS".

The only part of the scheduled we got "screwed" on was the Thanksgiving game (2nd year in a row). We want to be the SBC game of the week and get on TV. This isn't about what's best for my personal schedule, this is about what is best for the program.

If we continue to have success in the SBC we will play 2 or 3 mid-weeks games and when we play GS, Ark St., ULL at home those games will be mid-week games.
You might feel that way but playing 3 games in 14 days is recipe for fatigue and injury for our players. Also, lower gate revenue. These burdens should be shared equally amongst the conference's members.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:52 am

If you play three straight Saturdays you play 3 game in 15 days.

I get it, some fans don't like the mid-week games, they are difficult to make for fans that live 2-3 hours away (I'm one of them).

Most years we'll only have one mid-week game a year. We can't change that and we aren't going to give up TV games.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by CVAPP » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:21 am

Saint3333 wrote:If you play three straight Saturdays you play 3 game in 15 days.

I get it, some fans don't like the mid-week games, they are difficult to make for fans that live 2-3 hours away (I'm one of them).

Most years we'll only have one mid-week game a year. We can't change that and we aren't going to give up TV games.
Yes, my math there was bad. The point I wanted to make was two of the games during that stretch were on four days rest, and those two games were against the top teams on our conference schedule.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by AppState89 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:49 am

Saint3333 wrote:If you play three straight Saturdays you play 3 game in 15 days.

I get it, some fans don't like the mid-week games, they are difficult to make for fans that live 2-3 hours away (I'm one of them).

Most years we'll only have one mid-week game a year. We can't change that and we aren't going to give up TV games.
That was my point on letting the lower tier teams play the Tues and Thurs games. They are hard to make. I think 1 a season is fine, but just don't like 2. After thinking about it, you are correct, it's about selling App State and the conference.
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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by 97grad » Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:41 pm

"Selling us" is all well and good, but I would think the hit we are taking at the gate when we host these games could be a real problem for the department.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:02 pm

Nothing sells the Sun Belt brand (and Appalachian State's) like an enthustiastic, sellout crowd. Nothing cheapens it like a half-empty stadium.


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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:16 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:Nothing sells the Sun Belt brand (and Appalachian State's) like an enthustiastic, sellout crowd. Nothing cheapens it like a half-empty stadium.


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I agree 78 - The most disappointing thing for me about the SunBelt (realistically the only disappointing thing) has been the dismal crowds at our away games - several were pathetic !!!
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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by bcoach » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:50 pm

Well when you start looking at 3-3 1/2 hrs on a week night twice, staying home and watching on tv starts to look pretty good. Did it last year but not sure I will again.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:26 pm

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AppGrad78 wrote:Nothing sells the Sun Belt brand (and Appalachian State's) like an enthustiastic, sellout crowd. Nothing cheapens it like a half-empty stadium.


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I agree 78 - The most disappointing thing for me about the SunBelt (realistically the only disappointing thing) has been the dismal crowds at our away games - several were pathetic !!!
Some where terrible no argument there, I'm looking at you GA St (and others).

However just to put it in context (even with 7 mid-week games) in 2014 the SBC (without App and GS) averaged over twice what the SoCon brings in. NCAA doesn't have the 2015 data posted yet.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_ ... e/2014.pdf

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by AppOrange » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:09 pm

Saint3333 wrote:The SBC is contracted for 2 ESPN2 games on Tuesdays and 5 ESPNU games on Thursdays through the 2019 football season.

There will be 14 teams that play mid-week games next year and I'd bet we get a minimum of two of them, possibly three; @ GS, GA St., and @ ULL.
I hope not 3, that would make me reconsider my season tix, may have to go with a mini plan.
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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by TheMackAttack » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:28 pm

I think the conference should limit it to no more than one home game, and two games total, per team. Otherwise you're just killing the school at the gate and making the schedule unnecessarily difficult on your student athletes.
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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by proasu89 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:30 pm

Our away opponents make it likely that we will play any midweek games on the road. Just a hunch.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by AppDawg » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:41 pm

proasu89 wrote:Our away opponents make it likely that we will play any midweek games on the road. Just a hunch.
While I tend to agree and hope you are right. We do have a 2015 bowl eligle GaSt team coming up the mountain. That may be just enough for ESPN.

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Re: SunBelt Schedule

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:31 pm

AppOrange wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:The SBC is contracted for 2 ESPN2 games on Tuesdays and 5 ESPNU games on Thursdays through the 2019 football season.

There will be 14 teams that play mid-week games next year and I'd bet we get a minimum of two of them, possibly three; @ GS, GA St., and @ ULL.
I hope not 3, that would make me reconsider my season tix, may have to go with a mini plan.
Two would be on the road.


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