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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by NewApp » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:05 pm

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bigdaddyg wrote:Obviously none of us are in charge of athletic decisions (thank god) but if we were there are a bunch of compelling arguments for dropping golf. I assume we have a women's golf coach as well who makes a decent salary and we have comparable annual costs that Rekdiver took a stab at (probably not too far off). I would have to think that climate issues, that will always be in play, have to come into play. Over the past 30 years or so what has been our best overall showing for both teams in a conference or national scale?
But Title IV we are well behind in it (I am pretty sure) and I am surprised we have not been hit hard on not being up to code with that. (once again I am pretty sure about those numbers)
Did you mean Title IX?
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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by 3rd » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:24 pm

NewApp wrote:
3rd wrote:
bigdaddyg wrote:Obviously none of us are in charge of athletic decisions (thank god) but if we were there are a bunch of compelling arguments for dropping golf. I assume we have a women's golf coach as well who makes a decent salary and we have comparable annual costs that Rekdiver took a stab at (probably not too far off). I would have to think that climate issues, that will always be in play, have to come into play. Over the past 30 years or so what has been our best overall showing for both teams in a conference or national scale?
But Title IV we are well behind in it (I am pretty sure) and I am surprised we have not been hit hard on not being up to code with that. (once again I am pretty sure about those numbers)
Did you mean Title IX?
Yea my bad simple mistake....but the point is still the same.

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:12 pm

Well we really only have one revenue sport at this time and that is football. From the attendance figures I hear about on here BB tickets just about cover the light bill. Not sure what conference revenue is. Maybe it is enough to cover cost. The deal is this we can drop a bunch of sports and look like a DIV lll school or we can increase income. It does not take a business major to see our problem. We just don't have the financial support other schools have. That is not picking on anyone it is just a fact. You can do all the national searches you want but if you want a winning coaching staff in any sport you have to pay for them. Are some coaching salaries just plain stupid? Yep sure are but that horse is out of the barn. Do you need to cut expenses some times? OH HELL YES! I became an expert at that but there is a point when the cuts start to do more harm than good. The answer to the real problem is income. That is what needs to be addressed.

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by MDaniels84 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:11 pm

Cut costs ? Where is Ron Swanson when we need him ? ;)

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:08 am

bcoach wrote:Well we really only have one revenue sport at this time and that is football. From the attendance figures I hear about on here BB tickets just about cover the light bill. Not sure what conference revenue is. Maybe it is enough to cover cost. The deal is this we can drop a bunch of sports and look like a DIV lll school or we can increase income. It does not take a business major to see our problem. We just don't have the financial support other schools have. That is not picking on anyone it is just a fact. You can do all the national searches you want but if you want a winning coaching staff in any sport you have to pay for them. Are some coaching salaries just plain stupid? Yep sure are but that horse is out of the barn. Do you need to cut expenses some times? OH HELL YES! I became an expert at that but there is a point when the cuts start to do more harm than good. The answer to the real problem is income. That is what needs to be addressed.
Are you daying every G5 schools but the service academy's are D3? Gillin already said we have the 5th most sports of G5 schools, and we all know we are far from the top 5 in revenue. It's just a not sound financial practice to spread our money out so much. We certainly need to increase revenue, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't cut some spending as well.

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:56 am

JTApps1 wrote:
bcoach wrote:Well we really only have one revenue sport at this time and that is football. From the attendance figures I hear about on here BB tickets just about cover the light bill. Not sure what conference revenue is. Maybe it is enough to cover cost. The deal is this we can drop a bunch of sports and look like a DIV lll school or we can increase income. It does not take a business major to see our problem. We just don't have the financial support other schools have. That is not picking on anyone it is just a fact. You can do all the national searches you want but if you want a winning coaching staff in any sport you have to pay for them. Are some coaching salaries just plain stupid? Yep sure are but that horse is out of the barn. Do you need to cut expenses some times? OH HELL YES! I became an expert at that but there is a point when the cuts start to do more harm than good. The answer to the real problem is income. That is what needs to be addressed.
Are you daying every G5 schools but the service academy's are D3? Gillin already said we have the 5th most sports of G5 schools, and we all know we are far from the top 5 in revenue. It's just a not sound financial practice to spread our money out so much. We certainly need to increase revenue, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't cut some spending as well.
I don't see an argument here. Read my comment again especially the part just before OH HELL YES

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by JTApps1 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:32 pm

I was questioning your comment about looking like a D3 school. That is a huge stretch to say dropping a few sports that don't make sense in Boone will make us look second class. I just wanted to poi t out that we would look more like our peers by scaling back a bit.

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by bcoach » Sun May 01, 2016 11:34 am

JTApps1 wrote:I was questioning your comment about looking like a D3 school. That is a huge stretch to say dropping a few sports that don't make sense in Boone will make us look second class. I just wanted to poi t out that we would look more like our peers by scaling back a bit.
Well I can buy that. If we want to look at our peers I think we should drop the sports where we have to find another conference to compete in. I am all for that. To be honest I have not paid attention since we moved to the SB do we still do that?

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by hapapp » Sun May 01, 2016 11:51 am

bcoach wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:I was questioning your comment about looking like a D3 school. That is a huge stretch to say dropping a few sports that don't make sense in Boone will make us look second class. I just wanted to poi t out that we would look more like our peers by scaling back a bit.
Well I can buy that. If we want to look at our peers I think we should drop the sports where we have to find another conference to compete in. I am all for that. To be honest I have not paid attention since we moved to the SB do we still do that?
Wrestling and Field Hockey are outside the confines of the SBC.

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by bcoach » Sun May 01, 2016 12:56 pm

hapapp wrote:
bcoach wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:I was questioning your comment about looking like a D3 school. That is a huge stretch to say dropping a few sports that don't make sense in Boone will make us look second class. I just wanted to poi t out that we would look more like our peers by scaling back a bit.
Well I can buy that. If we want to look at our peers I think we should drop the sports where we have to find another conference to compete in. I am all for that. To be honest I have not paid attention since we moved to the SB do we still do that?
Wrestling and Field Hockey are outside the confines of the SBC.
Thanks hapapp
I think that would be a good place to start. One women, one men, save some money and extra administrate duties.

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Re: Men's Golf

Unread post by proasu89 » Sun May 01, 2016 3:57 pm

bcoach wrote:
hapapp wrote:
bcoach wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:I was questioning your comment about looking like a D3 school. That is a huge stretch to say dropping a few sports that don't make sense in Boone will make us look second class. I just wanted to poi t out that we would look more like our peers by scaling back a bit.
Well I can buy that. If we want to look at our peers I think we should drop the sports where we have to find another conference to compete in. I am all for that. To be honest I have not paid attention since we moved to the SB do we still do that?
Wrestling and Field Hockey are outside the confines of the SBC.
Thanks hapapp
I think that would be a good place to start. One women, one men, save some money and extra administrate duties.
I'm a former golf team member so I'm partial to them, but it would be extremely hard for me to support cutting the wrestling team. Conference champs and cracked the top 25 this year.

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