Season Tickets - How Are We Doing?

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Re: Season Tickets - How Are We Doing?

Unread post by 3rd » Tue May 17, 2016 12:51 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:Just wondering what comes under the heading of "relaxing some rules on tailgating"?
Time allowed before tailgating, drinking times/rules, rules related to Greek life and tailgating. I have had many conversations with alum about some awesome App State tailgates... Almost every time the top 4 are not in Boone NC. The three national championships and the Bowl game. Were the games big time games? Yes, but the rules were also different as far drinking games/time allowed for tailgating etc.

Edit: I also have had conversations about these issues with current students and alum of different schools and have invited them to App games.....while they say the football game is by far a better experience (Guess we get spoiled with winning :D ) they always comment that the tailgating scene is lacking.

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Re: Season Tickets - How Are We Doing?

Unread post by AppDawg » Tue May 17, 2016 12:59 pm

3rd wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:Just wondering what comes under the heading of "relaxing some rules on tailgating"?
Time allowed before tailgating, drinking times/rules, rules related to Greek life and tailgating. I have had many conversations with alum about some awesome App State tailgates... Almost every time the top 4 are not in Boone NC. The three national championships and the Bowl game. Were the games big time games? Yes, but the rules were also different as far drinking games/time allowed for tailgating etc.

Edit: I also have had conversations about these issues with current students and alum of different schools and have invited them to App games.....while they say the football game is by far a better experience (Guess we get spoiled with winning :D ) they always comment that the tailgating scene is lacking.
The best atmosphere was when most parking on campus was determined by 1st come, 1st served. Once all campus spots went to assigned #'s and away from festival parking with a parking pass, tailgating declined and folks started showing up just before kick-off.

I'll admit, when I lived in Charlotte, I liked the festival parking. Now that I am in Raleigh though, I like knowing I have a spot when "life" gets in the way of getting ip the Mountain early enough to do much tailgating.

It really is a catch-22.

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Re: Season Tickets - How Are We Doing?

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue May 17, 2016 1:02 pm

I would be fine with opening parking lots earlier. If relaxing rules means allowing pass-outs like State, then count me as a no. I don't have any desire to have a "great tailgating scene" where our fans spend the third quarter in the parking lots getting hammered.

And no noon kickoffs.

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Unread post by mountaineerman » Tue May 17, 2016 1:12 pm

Imo I see the 3:30 kickoff as a big factor in the amount of people commuting to the game. Personally a 1:45 or 2 pm would allow for ample time to travel up and travel back 2to 3 hrs plus and arrive home at a decent time . This would eliminate people saying well we have to get a hotel room also or arriving home at 10 pm or later.

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Re: Season Tickets - How Are We Doing?

Unread post by 3rd » Tue May 17, 2016 1:22 pm

EastHallApp wrote:I would be fine with opening parking lots earlier. If relaxing rules means allowing pass-outs like State, then count me as a no. I don't have any desire to have a "great tailgating scene" where our fans spend the third quarter in the parking lots getting hammered.

And no noon kickoffs.

Oh I am with you, I like some of what they do I don't agree with all of it. By Pass-outs I don't know you you mean people passing out or them being able to leave at halftime so i will give my opinion on both. I in no way want people putting themselves or others in danger by over drinking however as a former student. We have about 3 hrs "allowed" to drink. But I have to get into the stadium 2 hrs early to get a good seat (first come first serve) so drinking time was cut down to 1/1.5 hrs. but then students feel they need to drink enough to have a buzz through a good part of the game so that is 2 hrs waiting for kickoff then 3 hrs for the game. So now they have 1.5 hours to drink to last 5 hrs. <--- To me that causes a lot of quick dangerous drinking. I also don't like seeing cops using binoculars to watch people in the parking lot...idk just seems big brother to me. Second point I do not believe our parking lots are close enough to allow people to leave at halftime and reenter so I am against that part of the "passout" as well. Also I understand people have differing opinions on this and that is okay. I am just giving mine as a former student which maybe from a little different angle.

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue May 17, 2016 2:30 pm

I remember being stopped by campus rentacops in the late 90's while crossing duckpond field and them taking my pepsi away and sniffing it to make sure I didn't have any alcohol in it. Granted, I was intentionally acting like I was being sneaky to bait them. Things are much better now IMO than back then.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue May 17, 2016 3:22 pm

3rd wrote: By Pass-outs I don't know you you mean people passing out or them being able to leave at halftime so i will give my opinion on both.
Ha, I meant the latter. Though I suppose there may be a link between the two.

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Unread post by DaphneUrquhart » Tue May 17, 2016 4:07 pm

ASUMountaineer wrote: They used to have a coupon book for YC, and I think there's a discount card now. Daphne could verify.
You're correct - kinda. When we moved to the Sun Belt, the idea was that all Yosef members would have access to various High Country vendor discounts and deals. I remember hearing that there would be a website that listed those deals that could be accessed with the Yosef card. There was also talk of trying to get vendors off the mountain to offer discounts / promos to Yosef members.

I don't remember whether everyone got a card that first Sun Belt year. I know that's when we got away from the key tags. As far as I know the discounts /deals /promos site never materialized. I don't recall anyone mentioning discounts during last year's ticket packing effort.

Will the discount program make a comeback? Who knows? Was it used and valued by enough Yosef members to warrant the cost of the coupon books? I don't know the answer to that one either.
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Unread post by mountaineerman » Tue May 17, 2016 5:00 pm

Single game Miami tickets 60$ just found that out. Maybe that had been talked about already wheeeeww!

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Unread post by MDaniels84 » Tue May 17, 2016 10:15 pm

I will say this. I have been coming to App football games since around 1969 or so. I finished App in 1984. I know that we have experienced some growing pains since transitioning to the SunBelt. However, even with a single season Miami game costing around $60 or so, we have a very good deal going on in Boone. Season tickets are extremely affordable compared to many of our peers. Really looking forward to making it up the mountain for all 6 home games if at all possible this season and making the trip down to the Stink for the Thursday night game in October. Go App ! Oh yeah, and making the trip back to Montgomery, or New Orleans, or Mobile, or where ever we may land in December. :D

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Unread post by bcoach » Wed May 18, 2016 9:48 am

Can someone spell out in bullet points the problem with our tailgating regulations? I don't see a problem so I am just curious. Not wanting an argument just want to know. I come up tailgate for 3 hours watch the game and drive home 3-4 hours no problem. With that said I must be missing something

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Unread post by Appsolutely » Wed May 18, 2016 10:09 am

I am looking forward to the day when more of our alumni give to the Yosef Club primarily to support the program and not for the perks (other than parking and the opportunity to buy season tickets) associated with membership. I don't want to come off sounding like a condescending ass, but too many of our alumni are more worried about what their Yosef membership does for them, instead of what it does for the student-athletes, the athletic program in general, and their alma mater.
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Wed May 18, 2016 10:22 am

bcoach wrote:Can someone spell out in bullet points the problem with our tailgating regulations? I don't see a problem so I am just curious. Not wanting an argument just want to know. I come up tailgate for 3 hours watch the game and drive home 3-4 hours no problem. With that said I must be missing something
I have the same question - I asked it a little earlier in this post but as you suggested, a bullet point would help. I have attended games from '98 until 2014 - did not attend a game last season ---
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Unread post by T-Dog » Wed May 18, 2016 1:10 pm

You can only drink in parking lots 3.5 hours before game time. For a 3:30 PM game, that's Noon. The parking lots open at 9:00 AM and so if you show up then, even in donor lots, you have to wait three hours before drinking.

Enforcement is hot and cold depending on the agency. Some are okay with early drinking as long as it's poured in an unmarked cup, some just pull out the ticket book.

I believe allowing drinking when the lots open will grow tailgating in a good way, especially among the alums and Yosef Club. I also think it'll help curb binge drinking a little bit among students as they'll have more time to tailgate and this buy food to help mitigate the alcohol.

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Unread post by appbio91 » Wed May 18, 2016 1:50 pm

I have been threatened multiple times with tickets. In Greenwood, River Street, Library and walking to the game. Luckily it was only threats but I have been made to pour out beers. For me it is the heavy handed enforcement of you can drink between this time and this time and you will be treated like a trespasser if you are in the lot one minute after game time. I just thought the atmosphere at LSU was incredible with all the RV's setup with big screen TV'S in the lots. You know those people were not going to the game. They were just there to soak up the game day excitement.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed May 18, 2016 2:32 pm

Appsolutely wrote:I am looking forward to the day when more of our alumni give to the Yosef Club primarily to support the program and not for the perks (other than parking and the opportunity to buy season tickets) associated with membership. I don't want to come off sounding like a condescending ass, but too many of our alumni are more worried about what their Yosef membership does for them, instead of what it does for the student-athletes, the athletic program in general, and their alma mater.

I'm not sure why donors would become more motivated by altruism as YC membership - and App's athletic budget - grows. The bigger the overall pie, the less impact any one individual donation makes. At least now YC donors know their money really is likely to go toward someone's scholarship.

Once all those are paid for, then your donation starts going toward things like giving coaches raises and building new video boards. Those are necessary expenses for a modern athletic department, of course; they just don't have quite the same warm-and-fuzzy effect as helping pay for someone's education.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed May 18, 2016 2:51 pm

We are a long way from that point, we currently only fund between 60-70% of the scholarship bill depending how you look at it.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed May 18, 2016 3:34 pm

Saint3333 wrote:We are a long way from that point, we currently only fund between 60-70% of the scholarship bill depending how you look at it.

Every dollar counts.
Understood, I was just responding to the "I look forward to the day" comment, because I don't think that day is coming.

And frankly, I don't care why people decide to give. I appreciate everyone who donates to YC and really don't think it's any of my business whether they're motivated by altruism or self-interest (or both).

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Unread post by Appersrule » Wed May 18, 2016 4:37 pm

How about we not be concerned with why alums are giving to App, no matter their motive, but be concerned with the App alums giving to the Rams Club and Wolfpack Club???

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Unread post by AppDawg » Wed May 18, 2016 5:04 pm

bcoach wrote:Can someone spell out in bullet points the problem with our tailgating regulations? I don't see a problem so I am just curious. Not wanting an argument just want to know. I come up tailgate for 3 hours watch the game and drive home 3-4 hours no problem. With that said I must be missing something
Not bullet points, but here are a few thoughts:

I grew up going to SEC football games. Tailgating is treated as an event in and of itself. Kickoff time has no bearing on when tailgate begins. It is always 7am or however early you need to be there to secure your coveted parking spot. For night games, it is not uncommon for Tailgate to consist of three full meals.

We had this atmosphere in Boone for brief period. That is Until Charlie called took a page out of in nc state and UNC's book and restricted Tailgate to just 3.5 hours.

Personally, I have a plethora of tailgate accessories that takes a while to pack. In a 3.5 time frame, it almost makes the time packing unpacking and packing it back up not worth it. We like to target getting into the stadium 30 minutes before kickoff to provide for bathroom breaks, concessions, etc so as to not miss kickoff. This means starting to break down tailgate 60-75 minutes prior to kick-off. At some point, my wife and I find ourselves asking is 2 hours of tailgating worth the hassle?

Furthermore, as I already mentioned, though I like the #'d spot, Raley and Duncan haven't been the same since going away from festival parking.

Along those same lines, The students don't show up in Raley like they used to - b/c no more festival parking. It's a convoluted lottery process they have to go through. Many simply find a place that they go weekend week out and don't chance it for a lottery spot.

Another point, parking on rivers street inexplicably has been closed between the convo and stadium drive. For what ever reason it seems to always coned off.

Lastly, I would like to know the average distance our season ticket holders travel on gameday? See my 1st point above. "Is it worth it" for a short period of time?

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