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Unread post by asu66 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:17 pm

This is "must read" material. I'm serious as a heart attack..."The Appalachian Way" is up for discussion...

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Unread post by moehler » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:00 pm

reading this, they seem pretty short on specifics on why she should relieved of her position, just looks like people with an axe to grind. I will agree with them on one thing, unlike Peacock, who told us immediately what his visions were for the University, and started almost immediately to implement his plan, I have yet to understand what is her vision. I think its been a mistake on her part, and people are starting to wonder about her leadership. I think it would really help her if she went public and give us an idea on how she plans to lead the University.

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Unread post by JTApps1 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:36 am

So she fired a long time employee who had just as many foes as friends, didn't speak to a few students who protested a State law that she has no input on, and there has been some turnover on upper level staff. The staff turnover is something to look at, but it's not uncommon when a new boss comes in. The student with the open letter had very few points considering he is demanding a firing, and he came off sounding like someone just venting his frustration.

I'm not saying there isn't any issue since I don't know any details, but nothing even close to a fireable offense has happened. Much like the athletic department turnover is common after a leadership change due to different philosophies. Peacock was brought in because the State was tired of the uproar from alumni complaining about many long standing issues in Boone. He made a few changes, but I always got the sense he torn on making more changes due to his long standing relationships. I could be off base, but I wonder if Everts isn't just finishing the job started by Peacock? Once again I'm not sure since I dont know the details, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Unread post by Boone Goon » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:35 am

I think we're going to have a new chancellor in less than 24 months.

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Unread post by NewApp » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:27 am

JTApps1 wrote:So she fired a long time employee who had just as many foes as friends, didn't speak to a few students who protested a State law that she has no input on, and there has been some turnover on upper level staff. The staff turnover is something to look at, but it's not uncommon when a new boss comes in. The student with the open letter had very few points considering he is demanding a firing, and he came off sounding like someone just venting his frustration.

I'm not saying there isn't any issue since I don't know any details, but nothing even close to a fireable offense has happened. Much like the athletic department turnover is common after a leadership change due to different philosophies. Peacock was brought in because the State was tired of the uproar from alumni complaining about many long standing issues in Boone. He made a few changes, but I always got the sense he torn on making more changes due to his long standing relationships. I could be off base, but I wonder if Everts isn't just finishing the job started by Peacock? Once again I'm not sure since I dont know the details, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Unread post by NewApp » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:28 am

Boone Goon wrote:I think we're going to have a new chancellor in less than 24 months.
I doubt it. Administrators at her level get a long honey moon period.
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Unread post by boonetown1 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:42 pm

I've heard from several non-biased employees at the university, that she needs to go. I understand a peacock only comes around every so often, but I believe we may need a better leader than this.

The thing about her getting a $50,000 raise after year one is a bit absurd as well.

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JTApps1 wrote:So she fired a long time employee who had just as many foes as friends, didn't speak to a few students who protested a State law that she has no input on, and there has been some turnover on upper level staff. The staff turnover is something to look at, but it's not uncommon when a new boss comes in. The student with the open letter had very few points considering he is demanding a firing, and he came off sounding like someone just venting his frustration.

I'm not saying there isn't any issue since I don't know any details, but nothing even close to a fireable offense has happened. Much like the athletic department turnover is common after a leadership change due to different philosophies. Peacock was brought in because the State was tired of the uproar from alumni complaining about many long standing issues in Boone. He made a few changes, but I always got the sense he torn on making more changes due to his long standing relationships. I could be off base, but I wonder if Everts isn't just finishing the job started by Peacock? Once again I'm not sure since I dont know the details, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Also, no one has mentioned that she is fighting cancer.

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Unread post by MDaniels84 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:35 pm

tromboneman wrote:
JTApps1 wrote:So she fired a long time employee who had just as many foes as friends, didn't speak to a few students who protested a State law that she has no input on, and there has been some turnover on upper level staff. The staff turnover is something to look at, but it's not uncommon when a new boss comes in. The student with the open letter had very few points considering he is demanding a firing, and he came off sounding like someone just venting his frustration.

I'm not saying there isn't any issue since I don't know any details, but nothing even close to a fireable offense has happened. Much like the athletic department turnover is common after a leadership change due to different philosophies. Peacock was brought in because the State was tired of the uproar from alumni complaining about many long standing issues in Boone. He made a few changes, but I always got the sense he torn on making more changes due to his long standing relationships. I could be off base, but I wonder if Everts isn't just finishing the job started by Peacock? Once again I'm not sure since I dont know the details, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Also, no one has mentioned that she is fighting cancer.
The fired employee or the chancellor ?

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Unread post by asufan87 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:45 pm

boonetown1 wrote:I've heard from several non-biased employees at the university, that she needs to go. I understand a peacock only comes around every so often, but I believe we may need a better leader than this.

The thing about her getting a $50,000 raise after year one is a bit absurd as well.

OK, a little context here. Everts was one of twelve UNC system chancellors that had their salaries adjusted late last year. These were market adjustments based on the responsibilities of the position and how these salaries stack up competitively against out-of-state schools. Further, I've yet to hear any solid evidence that would point to Everts needing to be relieved of her duties. Anytime a new chief executive comes in and looks to change things, it's inevitable that there's going to be some resistance to change, particularly among some longer tenured employees. It happens in every organization; philosophical differences, not buying into the new direction, or simply not being up to the task and able to meet expectations, tons of reasons. I'm not saying this to defend Everts per se, but people need to understand that I doubt she is making every high level decision in a vacuum. I would imagine members of the BOT are probably being updated along the way.

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Unread post by asu66 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:50 pm

Clearly, Noren-Everts is under a great deal of stress. She has had a well-documented battle with breast cancer. It is not generally known where she stands with her recovery now. She's still apparently trying to find her "mountain legs" after two full years as chancellor. In addition, her husband, Dr. Jay Noren, has been in a struggle in his professional life. He resigned as president of Wayne State University (Detroit) under strange circumstances and has since been an unsuccessful candidate for the presidency at both Notre Dame and at UT-Knoxville. He recently surfaced as the new provost at Kalifa University in Abu Dhabi. True story! From Notre Dame to Abu Dhabi should make for some interesting personal journal entries. Regardless, it's probably difficult for both of them to have any sort of normal family life with such a geographic separation.

It would not surprise me. under current circumstances, if Noren-Everts' tenure at Appalachian came to an early end; but that's not knowable. "Things" may fall into place for her over the next few months and she could build a strong legacy at our beloved alma mater.
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Unread post by NewApp » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:22 pm

asu66 wrote:Clearly, Noren-Everts is under a great deal of stress. She has had a well-documented battle with breast cancer. It is not generally known where she stands with her recovery now. She's still apparently trying to find her "mountain legs" after two full years as chancellor. In addition, her husband, Dr. Jay Noren, has been in a struggle in his professional life. He resigned as president of Wayne State University (Detroit) under strange circumstances and has since been an unsuccessful candidate for the presidency at both Notre Dame and at UT-Knoxville. He recently surfaced as the new provost at Kalifa University in Abu Dhabi. True story! From Notre Dame to Abu Dhabi should make for some interesting personal journal entries. Regardless, it's probably difficult for both of them to have any sort of normal family life with such a geographic separation.

It would not surprise me. under current circumstances, if Noren-Everts' tenure at Appalachian came to an early end; but that's not knowable. "Things" may fall into place for her over the next few months and she could build a strong legacy at our beloved alma mater.
Thanks for the info. You did some digging to find out all these details.
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Unread post by AppDawg » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:31 pm

asu66 wrote:Clearly, Noren-Everts is under a great deal of stress. She has had a well-documented battle with breast cancer. It is not generally known where she stands with her recovery now. She's still apparently trying to find her "mountain legs" after two full years as chancellor. In addition, her husband, Dr. Jay Noren, has been in a struggle in his professional life. He resigned as president of Wayne State University (Detroit) under strange circumstances and has since been an unsuccessful candidate for the presidency at both Notre Dame and at UT-Knoxville. He recently surfaced as the new provost at Kalifa University in Abu Dhabi. True story! From Notre Dame to Abu Dhabi should make for some interesting personal journal entries. Regardless, it's probably difficult for both of them to have any sort of normal family life with such a geographic separation.

It would not surprise me. under current circumstances, if Noren-Everts' tenure at Appalachian came to an early end; but that's not knowable. "Things" may fall into place for her over the next few months and she could build a strong legacy at our beloved alma mater.
Good info '66. Ran across this article, apparently Jay is back in the states. He is currently associate Dean at Univ. Illinois-Chicago school of Medicine and trying to move on elsewhere. In the article below he was one of 6 finalist for President at University of North Dakota. A comment I found intriguing is "he opened his statements up that it felt like he was coming near to home..." To each their own, and not intended to criticize, but Personally I can't wrap my mind around His and SNE's long distance relationship. It comes across to me as power hungry - will go anywhere and do anything to obtain a status position.

http://dakotastudent.com/7860/news/nore ... ch-to-und/

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asu66 wrote:Clearly, Noren-Everts is under a great deal of stress. She has had a well-documented battle with breast cancer. It is not generally known where she stands with her recovery now. She's still apparently trying to find her "mountain legs" after two full years as chancellor. In addition, her husband, Dr. Jay Noren, has been in a struggle in his professional life. He resigned as president of Wayne State University (Detroit) under strange circumstances and has since been an unsuccessful candidate for the presidency at both Notre Dame and at UT-Knoxville. He recently surfaced as the new provost at Kalifa University in Abu Dhabi. True story! From Notre Dame to Abu Dhabi should make for some interesting personal journal entries. Regardless, it's probably difficult for both of them to have any sort of normal family life with such a geographic separation.

It would not surprise me. under current circumstances, if Noren-Everts' tenure at Appalachian came to an early end; but that's not knowable. "Things" may fall into place for her over the next few months and she could build a strong legacy at our beloved alma mater.
Good info '66. Ran across this article, apparently Jay is back in the states. He is currently associate Dean at Univ. Illinois-Chicago school of Medicine and trying to move on elsewhere. In the article below he was one of 6 finalist for President at University of North Dakota. A comment I found intriguing is "he opened his statements up that it felt like he was coming near to home..." To each their own, and not intended to criticize, but Personally I can't wrap my mind around His and SNE's long distance relationship. It comes across to me as power hungry - will go anywhere and do anything to obtain a status position.

http://dakotastudent.com/7860/news/nore ... ch-to-und/
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Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:36 pm

I'd love to add something of substance to this topic.....but it would be made up. I do have an opinion and it has to do with those resistant to change and those who can't get enough. The stupid professors who wanted Peacock gone and his staff and now they want Everts gone. We have some little twit who evidently got his feelings hurt and decided it was a good time to criticize a woman fighting cancer who is having to deal with a bigoted ignorant legislature that is spinning a bunch of lies about funding education. On second thought I think I'll keep my opinions to myself.
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My wife is a five year breast cancer survivor and when she went through six months of chemotherapy treatment followed by 33 radiation treatments, she needed my assistance on a daily basis especially the day after her chemo treatment when she was too tired to even get out of the bed. I understand that everyone is different in the way they face this horrible disease, but I only know that my priority was my wife and my job came second. Fortunately my employer felt the same.

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Unread post by YosefFan1482 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:35 am

No matter how the university decides to move forward I believe Chancellor Everts will have a difficult time unifying the campus and leading. Strange to treat people who've worked for Appalachian for 32 years in such a harsh way.

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Unread post by 3rd » Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:47 am

These are the same people who protested the football game. Its a small but vocal group of individuals on campus whose end goal is for Appalachian to shut down the ENTIRE athletic program. Is Chancellor Everts perfect? No, but she is running the University as she feels is best for the ENTIRE University. The funny part about this is that Everts has stood WITH this group as they were calling her to be fired in support of students against the county, but that doesn't fit the narrative so you will hear nothing about it. This is all I can and will say about this matter.

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3rd wrote:These are the same people who protested the football game. Its a small but vocal group of individuals on campus whose end goal is for Appalachian to shut down the ENTIRE athletic program. Is Chancellor Everts perfect? No, but she is running the University as she feels is best for the ENTIRE University. The funny part about this is that Everts has stood WITH this group as they were calling her to be fired in support of students against the county, but that doesn't fit the narrative so you will hear nothing about it. This is all I can and will say about this matter.
After looking into this more ive found out these same people also pushed to run Peacock off. They're using students to do their dirty work in public. Nothing more than some radical professors who think they run the school. Time for a few of them to retire or find a new employer. These are the people holding App back mot the leadership.

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asu66 wrote:Clearly, Noren-Everts is under a great deal of stress. She has had a well-documented battle with breast cancer. It is not generally known where she stands with her recovery now. She's still apparently trying to find her "mountain legs" after two full years as chancellor. In addition, her husband, Dr. Jay Noren, has been in a struggle in his professional life. He resigned as president of Wayne State University (Detroit) under strange circumstances and has since been an unsuccessful candidate for the presidency at both Notre Dame and at UT-Knoxville. He recently surfaced as the new provost at Kalifa University in Abu Dhabi. True story! From Notre Dame to Abu Dhabi should make for some interesting personal journal entries. Regardless, it's probably difficult for both of them to have any sort of normal family life with such a geographic separation.

It would not surprise me. under current circumstances, if Noren-Everts' tenure at Appalachian came to an early end; but that's not knowable. "Things" may fall into place for her over the next few months and she could build a strong legacy at our beloved alma mater.
Good info '66. Ran across this article, apparently Jay is back in the states. He is currently associate Dean at Univ. Illinois-Chicago school of Medicine and trying to move on elsewhere. In the article below he was one of 6 finalist for President at University of North Dakota. A comment I found intriguing is "he opened his statements up that it felt like he was coming near to home..." To each their own, and not intended to criticize, but Personally I can't wrap my mind around His and SNE's long distance relationship. It comes across to me as power hungry - will go anywhere and do anything to obtain a status position.

http://dakotastudent.com/7860/news/nore ... ch-to-und/
I don't get it either but some people are career first. I have a friend who left his wife and two kids in the states and is in China as an expatriate. No plan on when to return. It blows my mind personally.

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Maybe we have no clue about their personal life and should mind our own business. Sherry wanted to be here and she is an intelligent person. My opinion on the job is we hired her to do a job and we need to let her do it her way..otherwise we could have hired Rochel Laney to be the Chancellor.

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