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[asumike83]

I certainly don't miss Marshall or ECU......

Seems to me that you care more about WHO we play than the fact that we play.. I've sEEn plenty of GREAT ASU football in the past few years.. Heck, the ending of the Samford game this year was pretty awesome.. The Furman game certainly was interesting!

You see, for some of us fans we really dig our boys black and gold... It's folks like yourself that really "want" that sky blue on the opposite sidelines...

It isn't like some of us would rather watch ECU or Marshall than Appalachian, we'd just rather watch Appalachian beat ECU or Marshall than Samford or Elon.

Playing regional FBS opponents that will generate more interest from our casual fans and also bring visiting fans to stay in town and spend money is a huge plus for a school like ASU located in a tourist location, as well as maybe getting a game on TV every now and then. The SoCon has gone from SportSouth to PBS to streaming internet in a span of two years.

An analogy made before that I agree with is that a university is like a corporation and athletics are like the marketing department. You may just break even, spend some money or make a small amount but it is a cost of doing business. Playing at the FBS level does allow the opportunity to generate greater exposure for your school if you have the proper funding and support.

ODU has not even played their first game as an FBS team and they just scheduled a home game with Virginia Tech. A game like that would be beneficial for us on many fronts: a great traveling fan base paying a visit to the High Country, lots of regional media coverage, an amazing atmosphere for fans and potential recruits.

We have also had three programs pop up in prime recruiting areas and go FBS within the past 5 years (ODU, GA State, UNCC) and our biggest conference rival is about to head out the door. JMU, our best regional non-conference rival, will likely not be far behind. Things are changing and I have no problem with being proactive as opposed to reactive. This is a decision that has been considered for several years and I trust those in charge to make the right call for Appalachian.

[ASUMountaineer]

I hope all this buffoonery doesn't derail an FBS invite.

I hope it does.

The FCS is gonna be so awesome without JMU, Ga. Southern, ODU and others. Can't wait for Presbyterian to join the SoCon, now that will be a great rivalry and so awesome football.

I certainly don't miss Marshall or ECU......

Seems to me that you care more about WHO we play than the fact that we play.. I've sEEn plenty of GREAT ASU football in the past few years.. Heck, the ending of the Samford game this year was pretty awesome.. The Furman game certainly was interesting!

You see, for some of us fans we really dig our boys black and gold... It's folks like yourself that really "want" that sky blue on the opposite sidelines...

C'mon Sam, you know me and you know I'm not the "sky blue" type. But, I do think that a move to FBS will be in our best interest. It's not about what I want, it's about what's best for the university.

[ASUMountaineer]

I hope all this buffoonery doesn't derail an FBS invite.

No I just think that if we don't move up then we will be left behind by our rivals when the FCS becomes a glorified D2 full of small private schools. Basically what the SoCon is now. The fact that the Citadels, Woffords and Samfords of the world beat or play competitive with a program of our resources and facilities is just sad and more proof Cobb did the right thing.

I am not excited about watching App play in the 2000 flushes blue bowl but I also don't get in the fetal position when change happens whether that be Jerry spending more time playing checkers at the Cracker Barrel or App deciding to move up.

Funny... You won't need to curl up in a fetal position. There will be plenty of space in Kidd Brewer to spread out when our Base leaves us after a few "hard" years..

But, you know, I'll take the high road.. I'll certainly still be there in our sub .500 seasons in the FBS. You can come to my corner of the stadium where if you'll hear an "I told you so" I'll slip a little homemade shine in your cup to help drown your tears.

I get where you're coming from, and my world won't end if we remain FCS--who doesn't like playoff football? My question is, are we guaranteed to not have sub-.500 seasons if we remain FCS.

[vegattk]

"If that is not the issue but Jerry comes out as a bit senile forgetting about important meetings then so be it."

No way he is that "old", how can one forget a meeting on an issue of extreme importance to one's life? However, if he is that "senile" then it was his time to retire.

I think it was more that Coach was "hoping" Cobb would give him one more year.

[WataugaMan]

"If that is not the issue but Jerry comes out as a bit senile forgetting about important meetings then so be it."

No way he is that "old", how can one forget a meeting on an issue of extreme importance to one's life? However, if he is that "senile" then it was his time to retire.

I think it was more that Coach was "hoping" Cobb would give him one more year.

Agreed. I also think he realized that with the third home playoff defeat in a row that the fat lady was beginning to sing.

[appst890]

"If that is not the issue but Jerry comes out as a bit senile forgetting about important meetings then so be it."

No way he is that "old", how can one forget a meeting on an issue of extreme importance to one's life? However, if he is that "senile" then it was his time to retire.

Perhaps Coach Moore, as did another sports figure from Texas, "mis-remembered".

[firemoose]

Interesting thing that the all so hot breaking news banner from 6:23 last night has been taken down and no story has appeared, even though they said it would appear on their site "at once". Perhaps there was more (or less) included in the documents than they thought or they didn't say what they expected. Or it didn't fit the agenda of people like the Asheville Citizen Times writer. Guess we'll see what type of spin they put on the story if and when it does come out.

Either way I hope this is over soon and most of us can move on as we want to.

[appgrad]

Interesting thing that the all so hot breaking news banner from 6:23 last night has been taken down and no story has appeared, even though they said it would appear on their site "at once". Perhaps there was more (or less) included in the documents than they thought or they didn't say what they expected. Or it didn't fit the agenda of people like the Ashville Citizen Times writer. Guess we'll see what type of spin they put on the story if and when it does come out.

Either way I hope this is over soon and most of us can move on as we want to.

If a story isn't posted because it doesn't fit their agenda of venerating Coach Moore, then that is pretty damned irresponsible journalism.

[appthunder90]

Interesting thing that the all so hot breaking news banner from 6:23 last night has been taken down and no story has appeared, even though they said it would appear on their site "at once". Perhaps there was more (or less) included in the documents than they thought or they didn't say what they expected. Or it didn't fit the agenda of people like the Ashville Citizen Times writer. Guess we'll see what type of spin they put on the story if and when it does come out.

Either way I hope this is over soon and most of us can move on as we want to.

If a story isn't posted because it doesn't fit their agenda of venerating Coach Moore, then that is pretty damned irresponsible journalism.

in this day and age, it is difficult to find anything other than irresponsible journalism. see "benghazi" for a recent mind-numbing example

[TheMoody1]

Interesting thing that the all so hot breaking news banner from 6:23 last night has been taken down and no story has appeared, even though they said it would appear on their site "at once". Perhaps there was more (or less) included in the documents than they thought or they didn't say what they expected. Or it didn't fit the agenda of people like the Ashville Citizen Times writer. Guess we'll see what type of spin they put on the story if and when it does come out.

Either way I hope this is over soon and most of us can move on as we want to.

If a story isn't posted because it doesn't fit their agenda of venerating Coach Moore, then that is pretty damned irresponsible journalism.

Agreed, but I could live with it.

[appbio91]

Interesting thing that the all so hot breaking news banner from 6:23 last night has been taken down and no story has appeared, even though they said it would appear on their site "at once". Perhaps there was more (or less) included in the documents than they thought or they didn't say what they expected. Or it didn't fit the agenda of people like the Ashville Citizen Times writer. Guess we'll see what type of spin they put on the story if and when it does come out.

Either way I hope this is over soon and most of us can move on as we want to.

If a story isn't posted because it doesn't fit their agenda of venerating Coach Moore, then that is pretty damned irresponsible journalism.

I really doubt that is the case. They were pretty tough on the sexual assault stuff. I think they would be more interested in vindication for the university rather than a football coach.

[firemoose]

Interesting thing that the all so hot breaking news banner from 6:23 last night has been taken down and no story has appeared, even though they said it would appear on their site "at once". Perhaps there was more (or less) included in the documents than they thought or they didn't say what they expected. Or it didn't fit the agenda of people like the Asheville Citizen Times writer. Guess we'll see what type of spin they put on the story if and when it does come out.

Either way I hope this is over soon and most of us can move on as we want to.

If a story isn't posted because it doesn't fit their agenda of venerating Coach Moore, then that is pretty damned irresponsible journalism.

EDIT: Just checked the WD page again and the breaking news short story is now listed in the regular news section. That just popped up in the last 5 minutes.

This is the Watauga Democrat were talking about here. Could go either way. That's why I said it will be interesting to see what the story does say when it does come out. There is one other thing. IF, and that's a big IF, there was something about the CM situation mentioned then they might be checking with legal to see exactly what they can print.

I did e-mail the Asheville CT writer that did the hit piece on App and asked him if he would have the guts to print a front page retraction of his story when everything comes out, since he's the one who started the whole FOIA stuff. Haven't gotten a reply yet but that's no big surprise.

[firemoose]

http://blogs2.citizen-times.com/jarrett ... n-in-2011/

Here are the docs.

http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20 ... |Frontpage

And the story from the CT writer.

[vegattk]

http://blogs2.citizen-times.com/jarrett ... n-in-2011/

Here are the docs.

http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20 ... |Frontpage

And the story from the CT writer.

I certainly didn't see anything we didn't know... Big NON-ISSUE here...

[Kgfish]

I hope all this buffoonery doesn't derail an FBS invite.

I hope it does.

The FCS is gonna be so awesome without JMU, Ga. Southern, ODU and others. Can't wait for Presbyterian to join the SoCon, now that will be a great rivalry and so awesome football.

I certainly don't miss Marshall or ECU......

Seems to me that you care more about WHO we play than the fact that we play.. I've sEEn plenty of GREAT ASU football in the past few years.. Heck, the ending of the Samford game this year was pretty awesome.. The Furman game certainly was interesting!

You see, for some of us fans we really dig our boys black and gold... It's folks like yourself that really "want" that sky blue on the opposite sidelines...

If you don't miss ECU or Marshall you don't miss great games. I am tired of this "you care more about who is on the other sideline" drivil. FYI, it does matter a great deal who is on the other sideline. Don't you think since it was Michigan on the other sideline back on Sept 1st of 2007 that win ment a little more to the program than if it had been oh I don't know....ANYBODY in FCS.

You guys who love being a BIG fish is a small pond kill me.

[vegattk]

I hope all this buffoonery doesn't derail an FBS invite.

I hope it does.

The FCS is gonna be so awesome without JMU, Ga. Southern, ODU and others. Can't wait for Presbyterian to join the SoCon, now that will be a great rivalry and so awesome football.

I certainly don't miss Marshall or ECU......

Seems to me that you care more about WHO we play than the fact that we play.. I've sEEn plenty of GREAT ASU football in the past few years.. Heck, the ending of the Samford game this year was pretty awesome.. The Furman game certainly was interesting!

You see, for some of us fans we really dig our boys black and gold... It's folks like yourself that really "want" that sky blue on the opposite sidelines...

If you don't miss ECU or Marshall you don't miss great games. I am tired of this "you care more about who is on the other sideline" drivil. FYI, it does matter a great deal who is on the other sideline. Don't you think since it was Michigan on the other sideline back on Sept 1st of 2007 that win ment a little more to the program than if it had been oh I don't know....ANYBODY in FCS.

You guys who love being a BIG fish is a small pond kill me.

We'll have to agree to disagree... I'm just reserving my "I told you so" rights for when the time comes...

[GlassOnion]

We'll have to agree to disagree... I'm just reserving my "I told you so" rights for when the time comes...

In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Bill Cosby

[vegattk]

We'll have to agree to disagree... I'm just reserving my "I told you so" rights for when the time comes...

In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Bill Cosby

Hungry - Got Food?
Sign from the homeless guy on the corner who can't find a job.

Being a realist helps you understand what might be coming instead of being so blinded by rosy colored glasses that you get hit by the Mack truck you never saw.

[AppinVA]

We'll have to agree to disagree... I'm just reserving my "I told you so" rights for when the time comes...

In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Bill Cosby

Hungry - Got Food?
Sign from the homeless guy on the corner who can't find a job.

Being a realist helps you understand what might be coming instead of being so blinded by rosy colored glasses that you get hit by the Mack truck you never saw.

Hungry - Got Food?
Sign from the guy with a home better than I have, but pretends to be homeless because it's a much better paying gig than having to work for a living.

Not all are this way, but the few rotten ones make it hard to pick out the honest folks who are down on their luck.

[wataugan03]

An analogy made before that I agree with is that a university is like a corporation and athletics are like the marketing department. You may just break even, spend some money or make a small amount but it is a cost of doing business. Playing at the FBS level does allow the opportunity to generate greater exposure for your school if you have the proper funding and support.

I don't totally disagree with the marketing analogy. But, its worth noting that few of the world's top colleges and universities seem to need this this kind of marketing. None of the top liberal arts colleges do. Michigan and Notre Dame are really the only top schoosl that are also football universityies. Duke, UNC, and UCLA are really it for basketball. I don't think Notre Dame became less of a university when it was going through an athletics funk, and I don't think Alabama's is getting anything other than more athletic donations from its recent success. I'm not sure what positive benefits came to Marshall when it was rolling athletically. I get the theory, but I think I don't know how accurate it is. I'd like to see some proof of results.