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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Appftw » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:00 am

Miami fans must have the thinnest skin in all of the FBS.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:01 am

Go Canes wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
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Gonzo wrote:And the Miami player was wearing a Led Zeppelin shirt and Christmas shoes!

I forgot about that guy.
I remember The Appalachian put a video interview of this clown online in his Pink Floyd t-shirt. I called it from the jump that he was full of shit. What ever happened to him? Was he kicked out of school? If I remember correctly he was a senior close to graduating.
All because he wanted a free tv from his insurance company. I was on campus during the lock down. It was the year after the VT shooting. What an idiot.
Wait, this isn't the first time an App State person has caused a national firestorm by lying to the press? And you guys rip Miami's " really great name brand they've worked hard to build"? Pot meet kettle. kettle this is pot.
Yes, this happened awhile back, probably while Nevin Shapiro was hosting a party for players on his yacht.

You are comparing the actions of two non-student athletes to all of the problems Miami has had over the years with their athletes, which goes beyond just the football team?
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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by moonshine » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:04 am

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moonshine wrote:National firestorm?!?!?!?

Pot and Kettle, meet hyperbole.
Yes, national firestorm. Front of ESPN, articles in multiple newspapers, and of course tons of opponent boards claiming "Same old Miami" when Miami first of all has never done that to any team, and did not in this case either.

Funny how Rekdiver said to not talk about it until the schools had concluded their investigations, and then now that they have you STILL don't want to talk about it. Which is it, talk about it before or after? Well, it is going to have to be after, because Miami did NOTHING wrong, and Gillin even admitted that we were not the ones trying to brush it under the rug as Sophie and her minions claimed.
This hardly registered on the nation's radar. Stop trying to act like this did that much damage to the U. I think at the end of the day, everyone is happy that the incident lacks the evidence to back up what appears to be a false claim. Maybe I missed it but I don't see to many App fans siding with Sophie. I'm not sure you'd see a tear shed on this board if Sophie is charged but then again, I don't believe she ever approached law enforcement with her allegations.

Tip of the cap, the Hurricanes came into our house and whipped our ass so bad that it hurt the color guards' feelings. Good luck getting that apology from Sophie, hope that all works out for U.
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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Go Canes » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:07 am

Gonzo wrote:I wouldn't call that one (2008) a national firestorm. We've had a few hoaxes in the last decade. That kid wanted to commit insurance fraud and report a phony break in. He made the mistake of telling the cops that the guy was armed and that he ran toward campus, which prompted a lock down and a panic in the wake of the VT shooting.

We had two football players falsely accused of sexual assault. They were vindicated to the tune of a civil settlement with the school.

We had another rape hoax a year or two ago. The girl finally confessed to making it up when she realized her claim was taking valuable police resources away from the search for an actual missing student at the time.

Kids make stuff up. The Missou student who claimed a truck full of Klansmen chased him around in a pick up truck, which started a national race debacle on college campuses and ended up getting the chancellor fired, was a complete hoax. Duke lacrosse was a hoax (although that was a ghetto stripper rather than a student). The UVA rape story where the girl carried her mattress around campus in protest was a lie.

Sorry about the Miami thing but the world forgot about this incident 30 minutes after innitially reading about it. Hardly a national firestorm and hardly unique.
Thank you gonzo for the reasonable response. I disagree that it was forgotten, as post in the UNC board, UF board, FSU board, and others can show. Even this thread, not started by me, was from someone that remembered the incident more than 30 minutes later. The fact that Spohie bragged about the over 1000 shares, and that other people and groups spread it out as another case of football players getting away with sexual assault means that is did go national.

In each of the cases you outline above, the hoaxer was punished. In this case, that has yet to happen, so it is still open as far as the victims of her crime are concerned. What if there had been no video, and she pointed at our starting QB and said he was the one that did it? It would have taken months, if ever, to clear his name. Jameis Winston, for example, still has that taint on him even after going to court. I honestly don't know if he was innocent or not. But in this case, I can see that our players were innocent. Justice should be done.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Go Canes » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:11 am

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Go Canes wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:And the Miami player was wearing a Led Zeppelin shirt and Christmas shoes!

I forgot about that guy.
I remember The Appalachian put a video interview of this clown online in his Pink Floyd t-shirt. I called it from the jump that he was full of shit. What ever happened to him? Was he kicked out of school? If I remember correctly he was a senior close to graduating.
All because he wanted a free tv from his insurance company. I was on campus during the lock down. It was the year after the VT shooting. What an idiot.
Wait, this isn't the first time an App State person has caused a national firestorm by lying to the press? And you guys rip Miami's " really great name brand they've worked hard to build"? Pot meet kettle. kettle this is pot.
Yes, this happened awhile back, probably while Nevin Shapiro was hosting a party for players on his yacht.

You are comparing the actions of two non-student athletes to all of the problems Miami has had over the years with their athletes, which goes beyond just the football team?
No, I was comparing one app state hoaxer with another, never claimed Miami was innocent of getting steak dinners and boat rides, which we have more than paid for. And the fact that you know who Nevin Shapiro is shows that the stuff said about Miami gets national attention.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Go Canes » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:17 am

moonshine wrote:
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moonshine wrote:National firestorm?!?!?!?

Pot and Kettle, meet hyperbole.
Yes, national firestorm. Front of ESPN, articles in multiple newspapers, and of course tons of opponent boards claiming "Same old Miami" when Miami first of all has never done that to any team, and did not in this case either.

Funny how Rekdiver said to not talk about it until the schools had concluded their investigations, and then now that they have you STILL don't want to talk about it. Which is it, talk about it before or after? Well, it is going to have to be after, because Miami did NOTHING wrong, and Gillin even admitted that we were not the ones trying to brush it under the rug as Sophie and her minions claimed.
This hardly registered on the nation's radar. Stop trying to act like this did that much damage to the U. I think at the end of the day, everyone is happy that the incident lacks the evidence to back up what appears to be a false claim. Maybe I missed it but I don't see to many App fans siding with Sophie. I'm not sure you'd see a tear shed on this board if Sophie is charged but then again, I don't believe she ever approached law enforcement with her allegations.

Tip of the cap, the Hurricanes came into our house and whipped our ass so bad that it hurt the color guards' feelings. Good luck getting that apology from Sophie, hope that all works out for U.
This WOULD HAVE done damage if not for the video proving the lie. The attempt at doing that level of damage should be punished. I am VERY happy that no Canes player did what they were accused of, and in fact when the allegation first occurred, I was disappointed in that player or players for ruining what had been a great season and a great game.

As for those siding with Sophie, that was on the thread that is now locked. Even on this one, yosef said that the Miami players were wrong and or stupid for going one row into the band, which was part of Sophie's accusations. As I said above, I also sided with Sophie, until it turned out she was lying. Glad to see that most of the others here are also siding with Miami's innocence.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:19 am

I don't think anyone here really cares, man.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Go Canes » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:23 am

Appftw wrote:Miami fans must have the thinnest skin in all of the FBS.
Nice troll job. If any school had been falsely accused of sexual assault on the field of an opponent, I am sure their fans would also appear "thin skinned" to you. I hope it never happens to you, since you are so internet tough and thick skinned and all. Miami takes more abuse in the media than others, so I beleive we are a bit more thick skinned than the average fans. Get ESPN to demand the death penalty and have Sports Illustrated demand your football team be shut down, TWICE, and have NCAA investigators cheat and lie and pay off lawyers to attack your school, and let's see how "thin skinned" you appear.

I am talking here respectfully, about the topic, and you are throwing insults. But hey, when you can't win the argument with facts, attack the messenger is the classic move.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Go Canes » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:25 am

Gonzo wrote:I don't think anyone here really cares, man.
For people that don't care, you have your two longest threads on the topic, and not all from me.

But hey, I am done. You might not care, but I still do, and I hope to see Justice done on the hoaxer for the damage she has done to both schools' reputations.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by Gonzo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:27 am

I don't expect any hoaxer to get into any trouble.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:27 am

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:34 am

Go Canes wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Go Canes wrote:
Gonzo wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
I remember The Appalachian put a video interview of this clown online in his Pink Floyd t-shirt. I called it from the jump that he was full of shit. What ever happened to him? Was he kicked out of school? If I remember correctly he was a senior close to graduating.
All because he wanted a free tv from his insurance company. I was on campus during the lock down. It was the year after the VT shooting. What an idiot.
Wait, this isn't the first time an App State person has caused a national firestorm by lying to the press? And you guys rip Miami's " really great name brand they've worked hard to build"? Pot meet kettle. kettle this is pot.
Yes, this happened awhile back, probably while Nevin Shapiro was hosting a party for players on his yacht.

You are comparing the actions of two non-student athletes to all of the problems Miami has had over the years with their athletes, which goes beyond just the football team?
No, I was comparing one app state hoaxer with another, never claimed Miami was innocent of getting steak dinners and boat rides, which we have more than paid for. And the fact that you know who Nevin Shapiro is shows that the stuff said about Miami gets national attention.
You don't get two 30 for 30 specials off of steak dinners and boat rides.

On our end, our students need to review The Boy Who Cried Wolf. When something does happen, and unfortunately it will, we will be more skeptical.
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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by bcoach » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:42 am

If you ever had any credibility at all you just lost it. I hope the administrator will ban you from here with your inflammatory remarks. This is the first racial reference I have seen and I take great acceptation to it. This is my last reply to you as I now understand your motives and will not be part of it. Hopefully everyone else will do the same.

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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:52 am

I think Go Canes is Warren Sapp. I hear he has a lot of free time these days.
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Re: App State AD apologizes to UM

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:15 am

Go Canes wrote: Yes, I am keeping this alive, because it has not concluded yet, just as the Mathew Haney case was not concluded until his sentencing. And yes, we have our own message board, but nobody there is siding with the accuser and claiming it was all Miami's fault and that we are all scum and that by cutting through the band we deserved this attack. It seems we agree over there that this woman and her minions attempted to do damage to Miami, their players, and their city by claiming we are all dreadlocked animals unable to pass by a white woman without groping them.
And I am killing it.

You can take your hyperbole someplace else.

There should be consequences for the girl, but nobody here can do that. If you want to keep it alive then do it on her Facebook page or somewhere other than here.

This is done here.

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