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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:06 pm

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AppSC wrote:It wasn't so much the cold as it was the wind for me.

Wonder where this ranks on all-time coldest home game temps?
Not even close to one of the play off games in the early '80's.

I think you refer to the McNeese State playoff game, which I think it was in the late 1980s. We lost the game as I recall.

And, at kickoff, it was a sweltering 8 degrees & it went down from there. Not really snowing so much, as sleeting/icing. The wind was fierce too. I was there, with about 4,000 of my closest friends. Maybe the smallest crowd at a home game ever in KBS (not counting when it was called Conrad Stadium - don't recall when the name changed).

FTR, I stayed for the ENTIRE game. Just wanted y'all to know that.

Not McNeese State. It was NICHOLS STATE in the first round of the playoffs in 1986. Brrrrrrrrr. App lost by 2.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:39 pm

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AppSC wrote:It wasn't so much the cold as it was the wind for me.

Wonder where this ranks on all-time coldest home game temps?
Not even close to one of the play off games in the early '80's.

I think you refer to the McNeese State playoff game, which I think it was in the late 1980s. We lost the game as I recall.

And, at kickoff, it was a sweltering 8 degrees & it went down from there. Not really snowing so much, as sleeting/icing. The wind was fierce too. I was there, with about 4,000 of my closest friends. Maybe the smallest crowd at a home game ever in KBS (not counting when it was called Conrad Stadium - don't recall when the name changed).

FTR, I stayed for the ENTIRE game. Just wanted y'all to know that.

Not McNeese State. It was NICHOLS STATE in the first round of the playoffs in 1986. Brrrrrrrrr. App lost by 2.
Nittmo's kick was good.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by NewApp » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:44 pm

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If I'm not mistaken there were thousands of season tickets sold well in advance. Thus those seats would not have been available for students.
Season tickets are in the reserved sections, which are not available to students. The students have designated sections in the stands or they can overflow to the hill, the same as general admission tickets.
That's what I meant. But theoretically all 17,000 students could not get in to most games. They sure couldn't have back in the day we were having crowds of 30,000 relatively often.
That is not correct. There is no restriction on student tickets.
So what we have done when we played WCU in front of 30,000 plus, with theoretically 17,000 students wanting to get in? Dump the fans who had reserved seats purchased in the summer and the season ticket holders? Note I am talking theoretically.
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by NewApp » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:48 pm

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AppSC wrote:It wasn't so much the cold as it was the wind for me.

Wonder where this ranks on all-time coldest home game temps?
Not even close to one of the play off games in the early '80's.

I think you refer to the McNeese State playoff game, which I think it was in the late 1980s. We lost the game as I recall.

And, at kickoff, it was a sweltering 8 degrees & it went down from there. Not really snowing so much, as sleeting/icing. The wind was fierce too. I was there, with about 4,000 of my closest friends. Maybe the smallest crowd at a home game ever in KBS (not counting when it was called Conrad Stadium - don't recall when the name changed).

FTR, I stayed for the ENTIRE game. Just wanted y'all to know that.
I think that was one of them and it was sleeting with humongous gusts of wind.
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:00 pm

appst89 wrote:
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AppAlum1 wrote:
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AppSC wrote:It wasn't so much the cold as it was the wind for me.

Wonder where this ranks on all-time coldest home game temps?
Not even close to one of the play off games in the early '80's.

I think you refer to the McNeese State playoff game, which I think it was in the late 1980s. We lost the game as I recall.

And, at kickoff, it was a sweltering 8 degrees & it went down from there. Not really snowing so much, as sleeting/icing. The wind was fierce too. I was there, with about 4,000 of my closest friends. Maybe the smallest crowd at a home game ever in KBS (not counting when it was called Conrad Stadium - don't recall when the name changed).

FTR, I stayed for the ENTIRE game. Just wanted y'all to know that.

Not McNeese State. It was NICHOLS STATE in the first round of the playoffs in 1986. Brrrrrrrrr. App lost by 2.
Nittmo's kick was good.
Was that that game? Wow! I think it was. I plumb forgot that. Must have been too cold.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:09 pm

NewApp wrote:
appst89 wrote:
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If I'm not mistaken there were thousands of season tickets sold well in advance. Thus those seats would not have been available for students.
Season tickets are in the reserved sections, which are not available to students. The students have designated sections in the stands or they can overflow to the hill, the same as general admission tickets.
That's what I meant. But theoretically all 17,000 students could not get in to most games. They sure couldn't have back in the day we were having crowds of 30,000 relatively often.
That is not correct. There is no restriction on student tickets.
So what we have done when we played WCU in front of 30,000 plus, with theoretically 17,000 students wanting to get in? Dump the fans who had reserved seats purchased in the summer and the season ticket holders? Note I am talking theoretically.
Okay then, theoretically they all get in because there is no restrictioncurrently on student attendance.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by NewApp » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:19 pm

appst89 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
appst89 wrote:
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Season tickets are in the reserved sections, which are not available to students. The students have designated sections in the stands or they can overflow to the hill, the same as general admission tickets.
That's what I meant. But theoretically all 17,000 students could not get in to most games. They sure couldn't have back in the day we were having crowds of 30,000 relatively often.
That is not correct. There is no restriction on student tickets.
So what we have done when we played WCU in front of 30,000 plus, with theoretically 17,000 students wanting to get in? Dump the fans who had reserved seats purchased in the summer and the season ticket holders? Note I am talking theoretically.
Okay then, theoretically they all get in because there is no restrictioncurrently on student attendance.
You think the fire marshal would ever in a million years have allowed that? At Chapel Hill, students camp out to get in line to get their free student tickets for hoop ball. We could have that problem.
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:25 pm

Fellas, ifn yer gonna argue, can't you at least pick a topic worth arguing about?

Yes, students get in free. Some students will never understand that football is life. Hence, all will never attend.

Next topic. Personally, I prefer to reminisce about cold ball games.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by appst89 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:33 pm

NewApp wrote:
appst89 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
appst89 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
That's what I meant. But theoretically all 17,000 students could not get in to most games. They sure couldn't have back in the day we were having crowds of 30,000 relatively often.
That is not correct. There is no restriction on student tickets.
So what we have done when we played WCU in front of 30,000 plus, with theoretically 17,000 students wanting to get in? Dump the fans who had reserved seats purchased in the summer and the season ticket holders? Note I am talking theoretically.
Okay then, theoretically they all get in because there is no restrictioncurrently on student attendance.
You think the fire marshal would ever in a million years have allowed that? At Chapel Hill, students camp out to get in line to get their free student tickets for hoop ball. We could have that problem.
I think there is currently no restriction on student attendance at athletic events at App.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by AppStateNews » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:37 pm

There are no restrictions on student attendance. Any student that wants in, will get in. What you don't realize NewApp/JCline/Friend from NC State is part of those 30,000 crowds are students. They count for the attendance numbers. So it's not 30,000 with an additional 8,000+..

Before that ever is thought about happening, we will need to have at least 15,000 season tickets. We have a ways before that scenario is thought about.
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by NewApp » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:57 pm

AppStateNews wrote:There are no restrictions on student attendance. Any student that wants in, will get in. What you don't realize NewApp/JCline/Friend from NC State is part of those 30,000 crowds are students. They count for the attendance numbers. So it's not 30,000 with an additional 8,000+..

Before that ever is thought about happening, we will need to have at least 15,000 season tickets. We have a ways before that scenario is thought about.
IF YOU NOTICE, I SAID THEORETICALLY SEVERAL TIMES IN THIS THREAD. No way in hell we could admit 17,000 students into any one of our games in which 25,000 seats had been sold. No way we could have had the attendance at 30,000 to any one of our big crowd games when we were in the lower division made up of 17,000 free student admissions. Use some common sense instead of your snarky remarks. We would have had 45K or so in our wee little stadium.
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by proasu89 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:28 pm

Wow.

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Unread post by NewApp » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:31 pm

proasu89 wrote:Wow.
Thank you. ;0)
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by hapapp » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:28 am

How many times have we sold 25,000 tickets excluding students? If on average 7-10,000 students attend games, I would say very few times.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by AppStateNews » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:17 am

NewApp wrote:IF YOU NOTICE, I SAID THEORETICALLY SEVERAL TIMES IN THIS THREAD. No way in hell we could admit 17,000 students into any one of our games in which 25,000 seats had been sold. No way we could have had the attendance at 30,000 to any one of our big crowd games when we were in the lower division made up of 17,000 free student admissions. Use some common sense instead of your snarky remarks. We would have had 45K or so in our wee little stadium.
The point is there are 0 restrictions for students. Theoretically or not, there are no restrictions. If they start implementing restrictions, there will be a huge uproar because student tickets are part of their athletic fees in their tuition.

Perhaps, you should have some common sense and agree we are no where close to having to implement these restrictions. You started this conversation off with a non-theoretical, matter of fact statements of "I don't believe that all students can get in free for every game. I think it is first come, first serve up to a certain point... So you are saying all 17,000 students could get into a given game free? I don't think so." And added a "crickets" because people didn't answer within 6 minutes. When proven wrong multiple times, you changed your argument to "theoretically" speaking. I guess, I shouldn't be too surprised -- you are notorious for changing your tone (and name) when proven wrong...

By the way, how's your friend from NC State? Or are you done lying and trying to make stuff up?
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by Rick83 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:40 am

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CornCobPipes wrote:Nearly flipped out before game today as wife and I go to grocery store in Boone and cashier ask what we are doing today?....and we reply well we are going to game.....she says what kind of game?.....I'm like well the football game.....head really spinning at this point and then she says well I am graduating, this is my final semester and have never been to an ASU football game....I get it some people don't like football and that's fine but that situation blew my mind...she even ask who are teams that are playing....and we had our App attire on.....still scratching my head.
I don't get that either, aren't games free to students (due to the fees they paid with tuition)? With the stadium right on campus it really doesn't get any easier. Going to a game isn't like watching football on TV (which I do as well) but it's the pageantry, the excitement, the best damn marching band around, the drama of the game, and of course social-time with your App brethren. I had a relative, whom I'm pretty sure had never attended a football game in her life before going to App, and by the time she graduated had bought into the whole experience. In fact, she was at the Tennessee game in her black and gold after graduating 5 years ago...
Some people just have no interest in football, it is just that simple.
Yeah, I know, but the point I was trying to make was that going to games is not just about football...it's an experience. Typically, kids are in college only 4 glorious years of their lives so why not encourage them to experience the whole thing...that's all.

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by NewApp » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:18 pm

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NewApp wrote:IF YOU NOTICE, I SAID THEORETICALLY SEVERAL TIMES IN THIS THREAD. No way in hell we could admit 17,000 students into any one of our games in which 25,000 seats had been sold. No way we could have had the attendance at 30,000 to any one of our big crowd games when we were in the lower division made up of 17,000 free student admissions. Use some common sense instead of your snarky remarks. We would have had 45K or so in our wee little stadium.
The point is there are 0 restrictions for students. Theoretically or not, there are no restrictions. If they start implementing restrictions, there will be a huge uproar because student tickets are part of their athletic fees in their tuition.

Perhaps, you should have some common sense and agree we are no where close to having to implement these restrictions. You started this conversation off with a non-theoretical, matter of fact statements of "I don't believe that all students can get in free for every game. I think it is first come, first serve up to a certain point... So you are saying all 17,000 students could get into a given game free? I don't think so." And added a "crickets" because people didn't answer within 6 minutes. When proven wrong multiple times, you changed your argument to "theoretically" speaking. I guess, I shouldn't be too surprised -- you are notorious for changing your tone (and name) when proven wrong...

Or are you done lying and trying to make stuff up?


As to my friend from NC State, I will be seeing him for lunch at David's in Asheboro as soon as he can drive from recuperating from shoulder surgery, to David's Restaurant. Would you care to join us? I'm serious.

If all 17,000 had shown up last week, even though the cold kept many fans away, a few thousand would had to have been turned away. The bank and concourse will hold only so many. That's what I've been saying all along, much the less the Miami game. I admit I'm the least articulate person on this MMB, but regardless, you guys should have known what I was getting at. What you perceive as changing the tone (whatever the H that means), is due to my decreasing articulateness. Yours will too when you get old like me.
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by AppStateNews » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:26 pm

NewApp wrote: If all 17,000 had shown up last week, even though the cold kept many fans away, a few thousand would had to have been turned away. The bank and concourse will hold only so many. That's what I've been saying all along, much the less the Miami game. I admit I'm the least articulate person on this MMB, but regardless, you guys guys should have known what I was getting at.
You know good and well you thought you knew what you were talking about. As soon as you were proven wrong by multiple people, you changed your argument to "theoretically" or "you should have known." Again, you're notorious for changing your tone on this board so perhaps its too difficult to know what you mean?

Whether it's your intention or not, majority of your posts come off as meaning to raise arguments, change your view once argument has ensued and you're proven wrong, or troll the board. I normally bite my tongue and don't respond to your posts, but felt inclined to respond this time for some reason (perhaps because you once again changed your tone). Regardless, we will agree to disagree. I am no longer derailing this thread.. it was started as a praise, and I will let it continue as such.
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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by bcoach » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:41 pm

hapapp wrote:How many times have we sold 25,000 tickets excluding students? If on average 7-10,000 students attend games, I would say very few times.
Ever?

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Re: Not every student leaves early

Unread post by NewApp » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:57 pm

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hapapp wrote:How many times have we sold 25,000 tickets excluding students? If on average 7-10,000 students attend games, I would say very few times.
Ever?
I seriously doubt we have ever had as many as 10,000 students at a game....maybe once in a blue moon....and those leave early to hit the bars or parties.

Do you think there were 10,000 students when we used to pull in 30K plus?
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