It's a Satterfield...Definitely!

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Re: It's a Satterfield...Definitely!

Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:18 pm

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JTApps1 wrote:Maybe Kgfish has a point that we should be concerned about the process being used. I think most people are fine with Scott being the head coach, but what if the choice had been another Capel or Buzz type hire? Just because the result is what you wanted doesn't mean the process was performed correctly. Maybe that's not the way it went down, but it sure appears Scott was the choice all along. If so they should have just named him HC two weeks ago and not wasted anyone's time. I'm sure a lot of Mountaineer fans would have been less stressed lately.
And that's a better process? That would have been the absolute worst way to go about it. I'm sure CC did have Scott as the frontrunner before an announcement was ever. There is nothing wrong with that. It happens all the time. Bosses often know who they want to hire before interviews take place and they pretty much have to be blown out of the water by an unanticipated canditate to change their mind. Maybe Horton didn't blow it out of the water, maybe the bar was too high since CC appears to have wanted Scott anyway, we don't know. All of these accusations and criticism of Cobb are being thrown around based on nothing but perceived beliefs. Sheesh, talk about a flawed process, yeah, let's call for someone's job because we assume something out of sorts happened. Applications were accepted, interviews were conducted, a choice was made. What more could have been done to show that there were other candidates besides Scott? My guess is nothing that would have satisfied the Cobb naysayers.
Did I ever say Cobb should be fired? Why is just naming Satterfield so much worse? Had Elliot wanted the job that is exactly what would have taken place. At least we would not have wasted time and money flying in these other candidates, putting them up in hotels, and giving them any false notion that they were being considered. Plus Scott could have been telling recruits he is the HC for the past two weeks.

Maybe it was an HR issue. Here at my work we had a new HR Director brought in and now we must hold interviews for every position (PT or FT) in the company. No more promotions are given to anyone. There have been a ton of jobs posted that were basically already filled since the new process was put in place. So now we have to put interview panels together and waste everyone's time and give people false hope when the decision was already made. In almost every case we guess who will get the job before anyone is even interviewed. Same situation here. Why even bother?

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Re: It's a Satterfield...Definitely!

Unread post by The Annoying Peasant » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:05 am

kiddbrewer wrote:Just curious...

Rivals reports that Cobb interviewed 5 people interested in the HC job, including Satterfield, Horton, etc....

A group of posters on this board claim to be omnipotent by stating that this was a done deal the moment Satterfield stepped on campus last year. To be honest, I believed this too.

A portion of the above group demand that Cobb be fired or has lost all respect for Cobb (some have included Satterfield due to his part of the cover up) because Cobb has said publicly that the coaching search will be a national search and Satterfield was not guaranteed the HC position. I am not part of this group.

So, if this scenario of Satterfield truly was the coach in waiting is true and so obvious, how could the other 4 candidates not see this and just politely excuse themselves from consideration? Those of us on this board with little to no experience/knowledge on the inner workings of Appalachian Athletics were able to see this conspiracy, why can't those who do have experience/knowledge not see it?
Have been watching from a far and decided to toss in my .02. Does anyone actually think a national search provided that pool of candidates? Cobb said over 80 people contacted ASU about the job yet he wants us to believe a 60 year old friend of his, someone from a staff fired after being involved in a series of NCAA violations and a guy 2 hours down the road are 3 of the top 5 out of that 80? Horton was the only serious threat to Scott and he didn't stand a chance given what we know about the Jones and Sloan multi-year deals. Agree with those who say the appearance is Cobb stacked the deck. He didn't need to. Had Cobb manned up, promoted Scott and took ownership of the decision this dicsussion would not be taking place.
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Re: It's a Satterfield...Definitely!

Unread post by Inside ASU » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:20 pm

The Annoying Peasant wrote:Have been watching from a far and decided to toss in my .02. Does anyone actually think a national search provided that pool of candidates? Cobb said over 80 people contacted ASU about the job yet he wants us to believe a 60 year old friend of his, someone from a staff fired after being involved in a series of NCAA violations and a guy 2 hours down the road are 3 of the top 5 out of that 80? Horton was the only serious threat to Scott and he didn't stand a chance given what we know about the Jones and Sloan multi-year deals. Agree with those who say the appearance is Cobb stacked the deck. He didn't need to. Had Cobb manned up, promoted Scott and took ownership of the decision this dicsussion would not be taking place.
A National Search does not have to conclude interviewing anyone who does have a connection with the University. Cain-Cobb, Galloway/ASU, Satt/ASU, Horton/Former Coach, Elliott/ASU, That being said...except another FCS, a lower "ranking" current FCS Head Coach, or a DII or DIII head coach or someone out of high school would be the only choices we would have to choose from. MOST FBS assistants do not want to leave to come to FCS even ASU...We have to know ourselves....that and many FBS assistants that we would want would have to take a paycut to come to ASU. That ain't happening.

Cobb did a National Search found the above to interview and arrived at the conclusion he did. Frankly, I think he did a great job!

...and it was not a done deal!

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Re: It's a Satterfield...Definitely!

Unread post by Kgfish » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:29 pm

Inside ASU wrote:
The Annoying Peasant wrote:Have been watching from a far and decided to toss in my .02. Does anyone actually think a national search provided that pool of candidates? Cobb said over 80 people contacted ASU about the job yet he wants us to believe a 60 year old friend of his, someone from a staff fired after being involved in a series of NCAA violations and a guy 2 hours down the road are 3 of the top 5 out of that 80? Horton was the only serious threat to Scott and he didn't stand a chance given what we know about the Jones and Sloan multi-year deals. Agree with those who say the appearance is Cobb stacked the deck. He didn't need to. Had Cobb manned up, promoted Scott and took ownership of the decision this dicsussion would not be taking place.
A National Search does not have to conclude interviewing anyone who does have a connection with the University. Cain-Cobb, Galloway/ASU, Satt/ASU, Horton/Former Coach, Elliott/ASU, That being said...except another FCS, a lower "ranking" current FCS Head Coach, or a DII or DIII head coach or someone out of high school would be the only choices we would have to choose from. MOST FBS assistants do not want to leave to come to FCS even ASU...We have to know ourselves....that and many FBS assistants that we would want would have to take a paycut to come to ASU. That ain't happening.

Cobb did a National Search found the above to interview and arrived at the conclusion he did. Frankly, I think he did a great job!

...and it was not a done deal!
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