Player Stabbed

[Rekdiver]

I sent scathing email to WBTV about their headline.............

[bcoach]

Plain and simple guys. The media is not what it used to be. Facts are often wrong. Grammar sucks. Headlines are intentionally misleading. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find the truth. The media today in general is much more concerned with being first than being accurate. Then just try and get them to correct their mistakes.

Lumping all media together is just as lazy as the headline mistake the AP made. Your local papers are different that some nut on on extremist website, who are different than the blowhards on political TV, who are different that newscasters who spend 20 minutes talking about who was killed, injured and what could kill you tomorrow.

I said in general and I stand by that. Nothing lazy about it. I very often say to myself did the person who wrote this headline really do this on purpose, or did they just not read the story. On the national news I am sometimes waiting for the rest of the story that never comes. The part that would tell the whole truth. You are correct about the political nutcases but I don't count them as I no longer watch any of them. They are not and never were what I call media as I see them as entertainment. Bad entertainment but entertainment. Now in general does not mean everyone, but it does cover a lot and I truly feel that way. What I would really like to see is just the truth. Not the truth the way I or someone else wants it to be but just the truth. I really don't think I am getting that as often as I would like.

[CVAPP]

T-Dog, I am not condemning your industry's revenue model. I am condemning WLOS and the ACT. These two media outlets deserve to be lumped together in this discussion, along with all other media companies that published and or passed along the misleading headline. Their motive was indeed to generate revenue. That's what businesses do.

[mountaineerman]

WLOS 13 is about as homegrown bush league news outlet that can exist ...and I would throw right in the citizen- times as well.

[NO.2]

Earlier this morning a coworker of mine, a member of the App Athelics Hall of Fame, sent me an IM that read "So I see the football team is getting along well with the law again."

Even he, someone who regularly asks me how our various men's teams are doing, fell into the "trap" of those headlines.

[CVAPP]

I had lunch Saturday with a NCSU alum and the first thing he did was ask me to elaborate on our players stabbing each other.

[EastHallApp]

I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.

You are naive. They get clicks, they get money.

OK man. And they get sued, they lose a whole lot more money.

I've actually worked in that industry, but whatever. I'm naive because I don't believe in conspiracy theories. I need to wake up.

[NoLongerLurking]

I hope nobody thought I was playing the role of a conspiracy theorist or troll. I read articles from at least 3 sources, and sometimes exponentially more when attempting to find the truth in articles. Personally having been the subject of several local and regional stories, I now know only to expect the menu title of "meat and taters" to have the meat or taters represented anywhere from somewhat to grossly misinterpreted.... and I certainly never expect to know about the other sides, garnishes, or desserts.

[WVAPPeer]

Digging to find the truth is not only a problem with some "media" outlets - also a problem with many of the populace ---

[bcoach]

Digging to find the truth is not only a problem with some "media" outlets - also a problem with many of the populace ---

Amen

[NoLongerLurking]

Digging to find the truth is not only a problem with some "media" outlets - also a problem with many of the populace ---

I cringe knowing some of the elders I respect only "trust" one major tv news outlet. It's pretty disheartening. That said, I also certainly know where TDog is coming from not wanting all outlets viewed the same.

[CVAPP]

I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.

You are naive. They get clicks, they get money.

OK man. And they get sued, they lose a whole lot more money.

I've actually worked in that industry, but whatever. I'm naive because I don't believe in conspiracy theories. I need to wake up.

I doubt there is anything there for any individual or the university to sue over, but if there is I hope it happens. Until such a lawsuit surfaces, and I won't be holding my breath waiting on it, the fake news folks will be in receipt of their revenue and no doubt looking to exploit new opportunities. BTW, it's not conspiracy, it's capitalism.

[Gonzo]

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[WVAPPeer]

There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.

They absolutely intended to get it wrong. They intended to mislead people with that headline. It isn't because they have a vendetta against App, but because insinuating that FBS football players stabbed someone generates more clicks than the truth.

The "fourth estate" is self-serving and disgusting. It is an industry-wide problem. I won't absolve anyone. If you have a press pass, you're complicit with this kind of shit. Just because you've never personally shoved a microphone in a grieving father's face or manipulated the language of a headline to mislead the public doesn't change the fact that you're participating in a culture that puts ratings over truth, and clicks over humanity.

So Gonzo, you must really have some concerns about your chosen profession - Huh?

[Gonzo]

There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.

They absolutely intended to get it wrong. They intended to mislead people with that headline. It isn't because they have a vendetta against App, but because insinuating that FBS football players stabbed someone generates more clicks than the truth.

The "fourth estate" is self-serving and disgusting. It is an industry-wide problem. I won't absolve anyone. If you have a press pass, you're complicit with this kind of shit. Just because you've never personally shoved a microphone in a grieving father's face or manipulated the language of a headline to mislead the public doesn't change the fact that you're participating in a culture that puts ratings over truth, and clicks over humanity.

So Gonzo, you must really have some concerns about your chosen profession - Huh?

No. My profession has the strictest professional/ethical accountability practices in the civilian world.

[EastHallApp]

It helps to be able to distinguish between sensationalism and factual inaccuracy.

That headline said the three players were "charged with stabbing a fourth." That's not just misleading, it's objectively false. That means the outlets are potentially guilty of libel.

Now, to actually suffer a big financial penalty you'd have to determine actual malice, which is harder to prove (and likely not the case here). BUT, if you could convince a jury that those outlets knowingly ran a false headline out of their own financial interest, then I'm pretty sure that would qualify.

[WVAPPeer]

There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.

They absolutely intended to get it wrong. They intended to mislead people with that headline. It isn't because they have a vendetta against App, but because insinuating that FBS football players stabbed someone generates more clicks than the truth.

The "fourth estate" is self-serving and disgusting. It is an industry-wide problem. I won't absolve anyone. If you have a press pass, you're complicit with this kind of shit. Just because you've never personally shoved a microphone in a grieving father's face or manipulated the language of a headline to mislead the public doesn't change the fact that you're participating in a culture that puts ratings over truth, and clicks over humanity.

So Gonzo, you must really have some concerns about your chosen profession - Huh?

No. My profession has the strictest professional/ethical accountability practices in the civilian world.

So you despise all media "types" even though some of them operate with high ethical standards but you excuse some of the crud that makes up the legal profession because they have the "strictest professional/ethical ... practices....."

[CVAPP]

Dear Lord, the drama queens have arrived in full force.

[WVAPPeer]

Dear Lord, the drama queens have arrived in full force.

Gonzo and I have been ragging on each other for years - he gets it most of the time (some of the time.........occasionally)

[CVAPP]

Dear Lord, the drama queens have arrived in full force.

Gonzo and I have been ragging on each other for years - he gets it most of the time (some of the time.........occasionally)

Let me bring you up to speed. We have proven that both WLOS and the ACT are guilty of creating and or exploiting this fake news story for their own financial gain. It hasn't been easy convincing everyone, but it appears most folks are now of the mindset there was a financial interest behind the misleading headline.