Game day Chat @ UGa

[Yosef84]

Lots of overreaction to the loss, but I can understand that. I was really disappointed because I hoped this game would look very different, but I think most knew it could go this way. I absolutely believe our D will be just fine against the rest of our schedule. Any time we play an opponent like this (higher ranked P5), we will have to "pick our poison" and we will choose to defend the run first about 99.9% of the time. That makes total sense against Georgia as they are a run first team. We did a great job of defending against TWO NFL caliber RBs and a big OL until our D got gassed. Georgia had to resort to a passing game (once Fromm came in) before they started moving the ball. Even then they scored on a lucky jump ball and a penalty. I'm not worried about our D.

I'm not "worried" about our Offense either but that was where our problem was. I hoped our stud RBs could find gaps and move the ball, but Georgia's from 7 are simply too fast and to strong. Our OL did OK defending the front but Georgia had too much speed coming around the corners. We will NOT face another D anywhere close to that caliber for the rest of this year. Someone else already said it very well: A good D makes it look like we don't have a game plan (paraphrase). Yes, we were very conservative, but three of our WR (possible play makers) were out. Meadors would have helped to stretch the field and Evans was probably our best option for that slant type play or wheel route (which would be risky against a team as fast as Georgia).

I was disappointed in the lack of offensive production but the penalties were the thing that "bother" me. I trust Satterfield to address that this week. Fortunately, we effectively have a "practice" game on Saturday and can work on these issues. I think we will be fine when we hit the meat of our schedule. Georgia and Miami didn't take us "lightly" and it showed in the results.

[NewApp]

We played sloppy. I knew if we didn't play well we would get our butts kicked and that happened. The penalties sustained their drives and killed our drives. That continuously prevented us from getting any momentum and we just kept digging a deeper and deeper hole throughout the game. As we dug the hole deeper it allowed them to go to a much more conservative game plan of running the ball with the best two back combo in FBS. You can't put yourself in that position and we did. Once we dug the hole deep enough they turned it over to Chubb and Michel. Nobody wants to be opposing UGA when all they have to do is let them run. We had chances early in the game and didn't capitalize due to our own mistakes/penalties. Their D is very good. We made some mistakes on defense but also showed some very good signs. I think the mistakes can and will be cleaned up on defense. I was disappointed we didn't try to go down field any more than we did. Taylor looked much better throwing the ball tonight with a lot more zip. I don't understand our offensive play calling in the second half at all. Satt said he had to go down field and it didn't look like we even tried. We have to go down field in future games and take some chances. Thomas looked good with strong arm but you can't tell how he will play in a regular game situation from a few plays at the end of a blowout game so don't start bringing up TL for ZT questions. Lamb definitely has earned his position for this year based on last three years and did not do ANYTHING tonight to deserve those questions.

Oh, and the refs sucked in their favor numerous times but that was not the reason we lost and you can't put yourself in a position where that matters, but they did.

Given a fair amount of bad tonight, there was also quite a bit of good to build on. I think and believe we will clean up a lot of the dumb crap and are in a good position to make a run this season. As much as I had hoped we would be, we are definitely not NY6 material yet but do have a good outlook for remainder of year.

The refs let us by with the TD pass reception in which our receiver didn't actually catch the ball. The announcers pointed that out.

[hapapp]

Our TD was Lamb's run. We had no TD pass receptions.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

We played sloppy. I knew if we didn't play well we would get our butts kicked and that happened. The penalties sustained their drives and killed our drives. That continuously prevented us from getting any momentum and we just kept digging a deeper and deeper hole throughout the game. As we dug the hole deeper it allowed them to go to a much more conservative game plan of running the ball with the best two back combo in FBS. You can't put yourself in that position and we did. Once we dug the hole deep enough they turned it over to Chubb and Michel. Nobody wants to be opposing UGA when all they have to do is let them run. We had chances early in the game and didn't capitalize due to our own mistakes/penalties. Their D is very good. We made some mistakes on defense but also showed some very good signs. I think the mistakes can and will be cleaned up on defense. I was disappointed we didn't try to go down field any more than we did. Taylor looked much better throwing the ball tonight with a lot more zip. I don't understand our offensive play calling in the second half at all. Satt said he had to go down field and it didn't look like we even tried. We have to go down field in future games and take some chances. Thomas looked good with strong arm but you can't tell how he will play in a regular game situation from a few plays at the end of a blowout game so don't start bringing up TL for ZT questions. Lamb definitely has earned his position for this year based on last three years and did not do ANYTHING tonight to deserve those questions.

Oh, and the refs sucked in their favor numerous times but that was not the reason we lost and you can't put yourself in a position where that matters, but they did.

Given a fair amount of bad tonight, there was also quite a bit of good to build on. I think and believe we will clean up a lot of the dumb crap and are in a good position to make a run this season. As much as I had hoped we would be, we are definitely not NY6 material yet but do have a good outlook for remainder of year.

The refs let us by with the TD pass reception in which our receiver didn't actually catch the ball. The announcers pointed that out.

The refs did miss a PI call that the announcers pointed out. I think it ended the drive, and if called would have been an auto 1st down.

Not that it would have mattered in the end.

The pass play to which you refer might have been WCU at Hawai'I around 2:30 Sunday morning. I know you follow WCU some as well.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Very disappointed. No offense, very little defense . Poor play calling. After watching all the footage from the 07 team, they were a much more athletic team. Better corners faster receivers, electric qb, ga is a great team with great rb's, but there are no leaders on this team

I disagree this team is faster and bigger than 07... just playing a better team while being one dimensional .

Bigger and a better defense this year absolutely. Offensively we have nobody that can run a slant and score like Dex did twice. We also for some unknown reason which pisses me off every time I say it have refused to recruit a true dual threat QB. Lamb is far from Armanti. This team's offense is very easy to read. Lamb isnt a down field threat nor a threat to pull it and run like Armanti.

This isn't the same type of offense as the one from 2007. Better players now, but a different scheme.

Explain how we have better players now when we have a limited run first scheme? Senior Lamb is not better than even Sophomore Armanti. Our WRs hardly get any targets because we run so much. Don't see how you can say they're better when we don't even really get to see them catch much. Running game is even questionably better today because we had a true dual threat in 2007. Our defense is waaayyy better and even our o line.

Enough with the comparisons though. We have an offense that will always struggle with P5 teams. Good enough to finish strong in the Sun Belt and even beat some good G5 schools, but not good enough to compete against P5 talent.

[Yosef84]

Very disappointed. No offense, very little defense . Poor play calling. After watching all the footage from the 07 team, they were a much more athletic team. Better corners faster receivers, electric qb, ga is a great team with great rb's, but there are no leaders on this team

I disagree this team is faster and bigger than 07... just playing a better team while being one dimensional .

Bigger and a better defense this year absolutely. Offensively we have nobody that can run a slant and score like Dex did twice. We also for some unknown reason which pisses me off every time I say it have refused to recruit a true dual threat QB. Lamb is far from Armanti. This team's offense is very easy to read. Lamb isnt a down field threat nor a threat to pull it and run like Armanti.

This isn't the same type of offense as the one from 2007. Better players now, but a different scheme.

Explain how we have better players now when we have a limited run first scheme? Senior Lamb is not better than even Sophomore Armanti. Our WRs hardly get any targets because we run so much. Don't see how you can say they're better when we don't even really get to see them catch much. Running game is even questionably better today because we had a true dual threat in 2007. Our defense is waaayyy better and even our o line.

Enough with the comparisons though. We have an offense that will always struggle with P5 teams. Good enough to finish strong in the Sun Belt and even beat some good G5 schools, but not good enough to compete against P5 talent.

The talent on this team is deeper and generally higher than any FCS team we ever fielded. That being said, Armanti is the exception to almost EVERY rule. We tried for several seasons to duplicate that "true dual threat" phenomenon and fell short every time. Players like AE are simply a rarity and the landscape has changed now so that more of the elite programs are recruiting dual threat QBs so landing one is even more difficult. We don't need a QB who out-rushes our RBs. It has been noted that I think THREE of our best WRs were out of the game (Mock, Evens and Meadors). I still think we see more throwing this year. For the record, our 2007 roster WAS extremely gifted and several of those players were FBS (even NFL) level talent. Certainly, many of those guys would start for us today, but as a whole there is no doubt that we've progressed in our talent level.

[MtnDevil95]

I am disappointed, certainly, and think it's appropriate for all of us to be disappointed. App State lost, and that's disappointing. The team gave up nearly 100 yards in penalties in the first half, several of them complete lapses in judgement and easily avoidable. App penalties gave Georgia their first first down of the game and ignited their offense into an 84 yard scoring drive. 2 penalties turns a 3rd and short in Georgia territory to a 3rd and 30-something on the other side of the 50 . . . if the Mountaineers do that against almost any team in the nation and the outcome is likely to be disappointing.

Was last night embarrassing? No, not to me. The announcers even mentioned near the end of the game that App State deserves a tip of the cap. 31-0 before junk time scores is a beating, but Kent State, NC Central, and EZU are all waking up feeling much worse today than App State Nation . . .

I think there are several positives that can be gained out of last night's game, and I feel confident the players and coaches will use it as a learning experience and next week will be a better, sharper performance.

11-1 is still very much a possibility for this team.

[JTApps1]

Lots of overreaction to the loss, but I can understand that. I was really disappointed because I hoped this game would look very different, but I think most knew it could go this way. I absolutely believe our D will be just fine against the rest of our schedule. Any time we play an opponent like this (higher ranked P5), we will have to "pick our poison" and we will choose to defend the run first about 99.9% of the time. That makes total sense against Georgia as they are a run first team. We did a great job of defending against TWO NFL caliber RBs and a big OL until our D got gassed. Georgia had to resort to a passing game (once Fromm came in) before they started moving the ball. Even then they scored on a lucky jump ball and a penalty. I'm not worried about our D.

I'm not "worried" about our Offense either but that was where our problem was. I hoped our stud RBs could find gaps and move the ball, but Georgia's from 7 are simply too fast and to strong. Our OL did OK defending the front but Georgia had too much speed coming around the corners. We will NOT face another D anywhere close to that caliber for the rest of this year. Someone else already said it very well: A good D makes it look like we don't have a game plan (paraphrase). Yes, we were very conservative, but three of our WR (possible play makers) were out. Meadors would have helped to stretch the field and Evans was probably our best option for that slant type play or wheel route (which would be risky against a team as fast as Georgia).

I was disappointed in the lack of offensive production but the penalties were the thing that "bother" me. I trust Satterfield to address that this week. Fortunately, we effectively have a "practice" game on Saturday and can work on these issues. I think we will be fine when we hit the meat of our schedule. Georgia and Miami didn't take us "lightly" and it showed in the results.

Completely agree. The penalties on us questionable or not, and the lack of penalties on UGA made the game look much different. We had several drives the were killed by flags, and they had some sustained by flags. Getting multiple 15 yard calls is too much to overcome against a good team. Outside of the late INT's all the breaks went their way.

It would have been interesting to see how UGA would have played if Eason doesn't get hurt. We had pretty much stuffed their O until then.

[S.Lewis15]

Also, that Rubino FG at the end of the game was super clean. Expect to see a lot more of that as the season progresses.
I'm super pumped about the rest of the reason. Heck, this was only the second time since 07 that we didn't have 40+ dropped on us by a P5 team.

[AppSt94]

Very disappointed. No offense, very little defense . Poor play calling. After watching all the footage from the 07 team, they were a much more athletic team. Better corners faster receivers, electric qb, ga is a great team with great rb's, but there are no leaders on this team

I disagree this team is faster and bigger than 07... just playing a better team while being one dimensional .

Bigger and a better defense this year absolutely. Offensively we have nobody that can run a slant and score like Dex did twice. We also for some unknown reason which pisses me off every time I say it have refused to recruit a true dual threat QB. Lamb is far from Armanti. This team's offense is very easy to read. Lamb isnt a down field threat nor a threat to pull it and run like Armanti.

This isn't the same type of offense as the one from 2007. Better players now, but a different scheme.

Explain how we have better players now when we have a limited run first scheme? Senior Lamb is not better than even Sophomore Armanti. Our WRs hardly get any targets because we run so much. Don't see how you can say they're better when we don't even really get to see them catch much. Running game is even questionably better today because we had a true dual threat in 2007. Our defense is waaayyy better and even our o line.

Enough with the comparisons though. We have an offense that will always struggle with P5 teams. Good enough to finish strong in the Sun Belt and even beat some good G5 schools, but not good enough to compete against P5 talent.

Do you think that that group of players would go 29-6 playing a week in and week out FBS schedule?

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

I disagree this team is faster and bigger than 07... just playing a better team while being one dimensional .

Bigger and a better defense this year absolutely. Offensively we have nobody that can run a slant and score like Dex did twice. We also for some unknown reason which pisses me off every time I say it have refused to recruit a true dual threat QB. Lamb is far from Armanti. This team's offense is very easy to read. Lamb isnt a down field threat nor a threat to pull it and run like Armanti.

This isn't the same type of offense as the one from 2007. Better players now, but a different scheme.

Explain how we have better players now when we have a limited run first scheme? Senior Lamb is not better than even Sophomore Armanti. Our WRs hardly get any targets because we run so much. Don't see how you can say they're better when we don't even really get to see them catch much. Running game is even questionably better today because we had a true dual threat in 2007. Our defense is waaayyy better and even our o line.

Enough with the comparisons though. We have an offense that will always struggle with P5 teams. Good enough to finish strong in the Sun Belt and even beat some good G5 schools, but not good enough to compete against P5 talent.

Do you think that that group of players would go 29-6 playing a week in and week out FBS schedule?

Since there is no way of knowing and strictly opinion...yes. I do. I really do.

[ASU2012]

Haven't read through this thread yet, but wanted to get my thoughts out before reading how others saw the game.

First of all, Athens didn't disappoint. My first trip down and I'll be returning. From the night before until my departure this morning, UGA fans treated myself and my girlfriend better than any fan base ever has. More "welcome to Athens" than I can count and not a foul word during the game (section 106). Very impressed with UGA and their fans, will be pulling for them this year.

Regarding the game, I hate to say this and really don't think it's an "overreaction", but we were extremely outclassed. Especially on the offensive side of the ball and coaching. I think the defense did what they could do given the in game situation.

Offense was extremely outclassed in every way. We could play UGA 100 times and I'm not sure the offense could hang more than 14 on that D. All credit to UGAs defense, but the play calling in no way helped either. Really felt bad for Taylor, who had a subpar to bad game, but I'm not sure what else he could do either with the vanilla runs getting him in 3rd and long situations all games. Did we even run a screen? The dump offs worked when called, usually it was just too little too late.

I'm a huge Satterfield fan, as most should be, but he laid an egg yesterday. The team just didn't look prepared for the stage. I didn't expect us to win, I really didn't expect us to cover, but once we got punched in the mouth we rolled over and everyone saw it. I saw nothing on the sidelines to counteract it either. Coach finally called a TO when UGA was what? On the 6 about to go up 21? By the time UGA scored and blinked the game was over. As mentioned above, the playcalling helped nothing as well. Really just looked like a team that knew they were beat. Their first team beat our first team 31-0 with an even turnover battle and an even time of possession. I can honestly say I've never seen that happen, ever, in a game of football. A lot of that has to do with the penalties, which I reflect back to coaching and preparation. That's unacceptable and simply can not happen unless you're looking to get embarrassed by this opponent, which is what happened.

I'm sure it's been said, but Eason leaving the game hurt UGA in no way whatsoever. Hope the kid is alright, hate seeing an injury out of bounds like that, but Fromm came in and took over the game completely. Reminded me a lot of Skinner from Wake back in 06.

Really need to bounce back strong over the next two weeks. The game against Wake is huge for the program. We have respect, but rolling over time and time again against P5 opponents isn't helping. Outside of the UT game, we haven't even been competitive since Michigan. Wake is a strong team with a lot to prove, it'll really let us know where we stand in the grande scheme of things. Hope we get it turned around over the next 20 days, Go Apps!

[Rekdiver]

First I believe we would beat the bottom half of any P5 conference. We will see with Wake.
Penalties were not forgivable. Especially the personal fouls tha kept UGA drives alive.
I am not enamored with our punting.
Our receivers didn't seem to get any separation.
Our play calling was again poor. No reverses, screens and did our tight end even get targeted? Com on coach!
Our pass d is suspect.
We won't know what kind of team we have until we play Wake.
Next year we play Penn State. Let's be realistic next time.

[hapapp]

First I believe we would beat the bottom half of any P5 conference. We will see with Wake.
Penalties were not forgivable. Especially the personal fouls tha kept UGA drives alive.
I am not enamored with our punting.
Our receivers didn't seem to get any separation.
Our play calling was again poor. No reverses, screens and did our tight end even get targeted? Com on coach!
Our pass d is suspect.
We won't know what kind of team we have until we play Wake.
Next year we play Penn State. Let's be realistic next time.

This!! It seems every time we go up against a P5 program we overestimate our ability to compete. A UT like result comes along and we completely ignore the Miami result or most any other P5 outcome we have recorded.

I understand why we play these games and from a team development standpoint their is probably a benefit. But, realistically what we saw Saturday night is likely the result we get next time.

Of course, when we play Penn State next year they will likely be missing some key players and...

[Rick83]

I haven't read this entire thread and I'm disappointed obviously at the result but ya know what...we're not going to win every single game especially against strong teams like UGA. Our guys are going to have bad games...it's part of sports. UGA's defense was tough tough tough and those two running backs and that freshman QB they've got are great athletes so no reason to hang our heads. UGA is probably going to be one of the better teams in the SEC this season, again no reason to hang our heads...do we have things to work on? Absolutely. Do we have a great team and program? Absolutley. I suspect we're going to see a different outcome when we face Wake, and keep in mind Wake is on an upswing compared to 5 or 10 years ago.

[NewApp]

Our TD was Lamb's run. We had no TD pass receptions.

That's right, it was called back. It was initially ruled a TD catch.

[NewApp]

I haven't read this entire thread and I'm disappointed obviously at the result but ya know what...we're not going to win every single game especially against strong teams like UGA. Our guys are going to have bad games...it's part of sports. UGA's defense was tough tough tough and those two running backs and that freshman QB they've got are great athletes so no reason to hang our heads. UGA is probably going to be one of the better teams in the SEC this season, again no reason to hang our heads...do we have things to work on? Absolutely. Do we have a great team and program? Absolutley. I suspect we're going to see a different outcome when we face Wake, and keep in mind Wake is on an upswing compared to 5 or 10 years ago.

Isn't their QB a 4 year veteran?

[JTApps1]

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[JTApps1]

I disagree this team is faster and bigger than 07... just playing a better team while being one dimensional .

Bigger and a better defense this year absolutely. Offensively we have nobody that can run a slant and score like Dex did twice. We also for some unknown reason which pisses me off every time I say it have refused to recruit a true dual threat QB. Lamb is far from Armanti. This team's offense is very easy to read. Lamb isnt a down field threat nor a threat to pull it and run like Armanti.

This isn't the same type of offense as the one from 2007. Better players now, but a different scheme.

Explain how we have better players now when we have a limited run first scheme? Senior Lamb is not better than even Sophomore Armanti. Our WRs hardly get any targets because we run so much. Don't see how you can say they're better when we don't even really get to see them catch much. Running game is even questionably better today because we had a true dual threat in 2007. Our defense is waaayyy better and even our o line.

Enough with the comparisons though. We have an offense that will always struggle with P5 teams. Good enough to finish strong in the Sun Belt and even beat some good G5 schools, but not good enough to compete against P5 talent.

Do you think that that group of players would go 29-6 playing a week in and week out FBS schedule?

I don't think they would be able to hold up over the course of a season or multiple seasons in a row. We had a number of guys that could play well at this level, but we didn't have the depth to do it week after week.

[Rick83]

I haven't read this entire thread and I'm disappointed obviously at the result but ya know what...we're not going to win every single game especially against strong teams like UGA. Our guys are going to have bad games...it's part of sports. UGA's defense was tough tough tough and those two running backs and that freshman QB they've got are great athletes so no reason to hang our heads. UGA is probably going to be one of the better teams in the SEC this season, again no reason to hang our heads...do we have things to work on? Absolutely. Do we have a great team and program? Absolutley. I suspect we're going to see a different outcome when we face Wake, and keep in mind Wake is on an upswing compared to 5 or 10 years ago.

Isn't their QB a 4 year veteran?

We pretty much shut down their starting QB but he was taken out of the game due to a knee injury. The highly-recruited freshman QB kid came in and was free-wheeling (sometimes the backup does better because he's not carrying the burden of expectations) things and actually got lucky on a few things IMO but he sparked their offense in the 2nd quarter.