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Unread post by Appstate10 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:02 am

First of all, if this really did happen, I don't condone it. However, at halftime, the band is down prepping to go on the field, so no one is in that section to begin with. The only way it could have happened would have been that they were still in front of our fans in the regular sections. But again, there would have been plenty of band members in the way as they were lined against the wall.

Also, the article keeps referring back to it like it's the only time this has ever happened on college football. Oh, please. The only spark they got at halftime was the fact that we called some bad plays at the end and had a couple stupid penalties.

I do, however, want to fix the student section. It was not like this 10 years ago when I was there. The kick off chant, the boos, one guy literally flipped them the bird for half the game. What's the point? If anybody knows of a way to help fix this, I would be glad to help as well. It's ridiculous.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:24 am

I tweeted at Doug Gillan and at the Appalachian newspaper that a front page article needs to run imploring our student section to show more class. I was on the field pre-game and heard a "F*** WAKE FOREST" chant coming from about 25 students, the "you suck a**hole" chant seems to be performed by the majority of our student section and can be heard on tv and by opposing fans, and the spitting incident all reflect EXTREMELY poorly on our fanbase. That cannot be tolerated who we are.
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Unread post by Rick83 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:37 am

3rd wrote:
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One of my buddies messaged me as it happened and said after the fan did that the Wake player had him by the neck and threw punches before it got broken up......this could be not what happen but it's the message I got sent during halftime. The fan deserved that and deserves to never step in KBS again.... but as a player you can't do that as well (if that part was true) it was #6 for Wake Forest who was the player according to the guy that messaged me.
Can someone verify that the player physically grabbed the fan and threw punches? There was no mention of that in the article...just that it was "quite an incident" or something like that. I'm not saying that the fan didn't deserve some consequences but, if that's what the Wake player did, he should've faced some kind of consequences. However, it's probably best that we just try and let that spitting thing not become a national topic...so leave it be i guess.

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Unread post by MtnMan09 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:06 pm

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I really worry that between the boos, the kickoff chant from the student section, and stories like this, that this is the reputation we are earning as a school and fanbase.
Spitting incident if it happened, terrible. Student section chant, immature unimaginative. Boos? They happen every where. Fans who talk crap, happens everywhere. Bottom line, we had an amazing tailgate scene. We put 35K into the stadium and a good product on the field. If opponents need to shift the narrative from game performance to our "fan base" its only to hide their shame at how we held them in check. That narrative is a tired one that the OG&B board spin machine was already fueling all week "bunch of nonqualifiers who play dirty and go for knees" supported by a bunch of "inbred mountain no class scum." Anyone who was there, and knows about football,l saw an engaged passionate fan base that theyd love to have.

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Unread post by Black Saturday » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:30 pm

This kind of stuff happens true or fake. I remember a friend of mine playing against The U in the '80s and their fans threw batteries, true. What do Gumroot fanst fans do? Anyone remember them putting up plywood barriers for protection of opposing fans? Every game I go to a game at APP or anywhere, the air is turned blue with profanities enough to make a sailor blush, true. SoCon message boards I know were full of fake accusations over the years, true. Blah Blah Blah
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Unread post by JTApps1 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:38 pm

The chant on kickoffs is what really gets me. It's classless and just plain stupid.

I dont know how to stop other than having the team address their fellow students. Knowing how 20 year olds think they wouldnt stop just because the admin asked them to. Other than that you'd have to basically kick the entire student section out of the game which would be a disaster.

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Unread post by Rick83 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:43 pm

A personal experience; I sit in section 205 on the home side and tailgated before the game. My wife let my brother-in-law use her ticket, he's a life-long Deacon fan and I assured him it would be OK for him to wear his Wake gear (which he did) without incident. I was with him pretty much the entire time and witnessed that all of our fans were nice and courteous to him with some good-natured joking around which was fun. Even after our crushing game ending field goal miss, and the stunning disappointment of our crowd, not a single person directed anything negative towards him as we joined the escaping packed in herd under the West stands...

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Unread post by Black Saturday » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:45 pm

The culprit spitter could have been a UNC student visiting his buddy for the game for all anyone knows.
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Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:56 pm

I'll say this again....If you witness Georgia Southern type behavior you have a responsibility to say something..I won't put up with it. AndGillen or our student leaders need to get a handle on the student cheers.

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Re: FromWSJ

Unread post by 97grad » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:58 pm

MtnMan09 wrote:
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Spitting incident if it happened, terrible. Student section chant, immature unimaginative. Boos? They happen every where. Fans who talk crap, happens everywhere. Bottom line, we had an amazing tailgate scene. We put 35K into the stadium and a good product on the field. If opponents need to shift the narrative from game performance to our "fan base" its only to hide their shame at how we held them in check. That narrative is a tired one that the OG&B board spin machine was already fueling all week "bunch of nonqualifiers who play dirty and go for knees" supported by a bunch of "inbred mountain no class scum." Anyone who was there, and knows about football,l saw an engaged passionate fan base that theyd love to have.
You just hand-waved over the entire problem in your first 2 sentences. The boos are hardly the worst of it, and not unforgivable when directed at the opposing team, but when even their band is being booed, it's classless. Also, "immature unimaginative"? I suppose that's one way to describe a huge portion of our student fanbase screaming obscenities on every kickoff to the opposing team.

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Unread post by MtnMan09 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:09 pm

97grad wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:58 pm
MtnMan09 wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:06 pm
Spitting incident if it happened, terrible. Student section chant, immature unimaginative. Boos? They happen every where. Fans who talk crap, happens everywhere. Bottom line, we had an amazing tailgate scene. We put 35K into the stadium and a good product on the field. If opponents need to shift the narrative from game performance to our "fan base" its only to hide their shame at how we held them in check. That narrative is a tired one that the OG&B board spin machine was already fueling all week "bunch of nonqualifiers who play dirty and go for knees" supported by a bunch of "inbred mountain no class scum." Anyone who was there, and knows about football,l saw an engaged passionate fan base that theyd love to have.
You just hand-waved over the entire problem in your first 2 sentences. The boos are hardly the worst of it, and not unforgivable when directed at the opposing team, but when even their band is being booed, it's classless. Also, "immature unimaginative"? I suppose that's one way to describe a huge portion of our student fanbase screaming obscenities on every kickoff to the opposing team.
Hand waving to condemn something (spitting) as terrible? As far as "you suck a%% hole," yeah immature (18-22 year olds thinking something is funny that's not) unimaginative (because its not clever in the slightest way). I wish they'd do something different but I'm not really sure how different it is than the UNC student section telling the opposing team to "go to hell" at the end of their fight song. Which goes back to my original point of a lot of this stuff happens at a lot of places. You see someone spitting; getting overly mouthy; certainly trying to get physical say something and shut it down. But to feed into nonsense from the opposition that we have a classless fan base/student body is false and counter productive.

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Re: FromWSJ

Unread post by S.Lewis15 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:32 pm

"The student section was much classier back when I was a part of it" seems to be a prevalent sentiment.

http://deadspin.com/mls-threatens-fans- ... -708117042

The only way to stop YSA chants when the opposing team kicks off is to send out mass emails to students and threaten that if the chant doesn't stop then they won't be allowed in the game. You thought the protests for Thursday Night games were stupid, just wait until a bunch of college students fresh out of PS-1100 start protesting that their 1st Amendment rights are being infringed upon.

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Unread post by Appstate10 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:12 pm

I will also add that Wake Forest is where I learned some extra words to "The Hey Song" some 10+ years ago.

Something to the effect of:
Hey, you suck
Hey, you suck
Hey, you suck and we're gonna beat the f*** out of you and you and you and you

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Unread post by dp42828 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:18 pm

That article was hard to follow. Sounds like this one fan cost us the game (not). I don't feel like Wake really "came alive" in the second half. We pretty much bottled them up all day, they just made a few plays when they needed to and we made a few mistakes that really cost us.
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Unread post by moonshine » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:29 pm

Spoke with someone who works the area where the bodily fluid incident happened. He confirmed the incident, the culprit turned himself in and was handed over to the authorities. Gentleman told me he did not know if assault charges were going to be pressed. Guessing that will be left up to the DA.

I propose that instead of legal charges we just ship the said offender down to Wake's practice facility in Winston and allow him to be used as a tackling dummy.
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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:33 pm

Did the spitter have a laser pointer?

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Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:01 pm

moonshine wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:29 pm
Spoke with someone who works the area where the bodily fluid incident happened. He confirmed the incident, the culprit turned himself in and was handed over to the authorities. Gentleman told me he did not know if assault charges were going to be pressed. Guessing that will be left up to the DA.

I propose that instead of legal charges we just ship the said offender down to Wake's practice facility in Winston and allow him to be used as a tackling dummy.
Is this not under the Campus Police? I am assuming our SGA should supsend this guy for the remainder of the semester.

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Unread post by moonshine » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:07 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
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Is this not under the Campus Police? I am assuming our SGA should supsend this guy for the remainder of the semester.
One would think. I was merely speculating on his possible charges. I just wanted to relay what I heard from someone who works in that particular area and they confirmed the incident and the suspect turned himself in and was given over to authorities.
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Unread post by APPRIDE » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:32 pm

moonshine wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:07 pm
Rekdiver wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:01 pm
Is this not under the Campus Police? I am assuming our SGA should supsend this guy for the remainder of the semester.
One would think. I was merely speculating on his possible charges. I just wanted to relay what I heard from someone who works in that particular area and they confirmed the incident and the suspect turned himself in and was given over to authorities.
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The punishment for him should be that we take his picture and at every home game put it on the big screen for 15 seconds with the narrative that "this guy spit on the opposing team here in Kidd Brewer Stadium, don't be this guy "...

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Unread post by NewApp » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:38 pm

YesAppCan wrote:
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http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/ed ... d5bb1.html

The ball never made it to the end zone, never made to the goalposts or into the crowd, where a fan had leaned over the railing at the end of the first half and spat on Wake’s players.

That didn’t go over well with the Deacons.

“Something happened at halftime that provided a spark,” Wake coach Dave Clawson said. He didn’t elaborate.

But quarterback John Wolford did.

“There was a fan that spit on Jaboree (Williams),” Wolford said. “That got some people fired up.”


I HOPE APP CATCHES THIS PERSON AND KICKS THEIR SORRY ASS OUT OF SCHOOL!!!>>>
NO CLASS, POS!

However bad the close proximity was, it will be ten times as bad as now when we lower the field and put the student section closer to the field, side lines, teams, and refs.
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