Early: possible replacements?

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by ggasu » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:53 am

ASUTodd wrote:
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Chris Klieman .. just a thought
Yep and a tiny buyout (150k)...should be top 3 on list.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:08 am

ggasu wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:53 am
ASUTodd wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:35 pm
Chris Klieman .. just a thought
Yep and a tiny buyout (150k)...should be top 3 on list.
No doubt he's a great coach, but can he deploy anything but the Pro-Style offense? Not that I would be against that, but we have very different players with our spread-option style.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by appchicago » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:09 am

Klieman would be a tough get. He's being discussed a lot for K State (alongside Neal Brown, Brent Venables, Seth Littrell from North Texas, etc.). With his eye-popping resume at NDSU (66-6 over 5 years, 3 natties, and in the hunt for a 4th), he's probably viewed as Satt's competition more than his replacement. Don't think there's another FCS coach I'd say that about, especially now that Houston is going to ECU.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by GoBoone » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:17 am

EastHallApp wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:55 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:07 pm
app97 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:38 am
We do have an “assistant head coach” if that title means anything. He’s only coached high school outside of his time at App, though.
Very true. But he essentially a part of Brown’s defensive staff. How would it be received by Brown to now have to report to him?
Can't see Brown returning to App in that case.
I'd give this idea a look. He's a winner, heck of a motivator and one of us. But then again, I'm an armchair AD.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:16 am

bigdaddyg wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:09 am
Have I missed something? Has Satt actually interviewed, been offered, accepted a new position? This thread has quickly turned into a definite replacement topic.
Interviewed yesterday.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:18 am

EastHallApp wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:55 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:07 pm
app97 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:38 am
We do have an “assistant head coach” if that title means anything. He’s only coached high school outside of his time at App, though.
Very true. But he essentially a part of Brown’s defensive staff. How would it be received by Brown to now have to report to him?
Can't see Brown returning to App in that case.
Yes, that would be my concern as well.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by ECU » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:22 am

sixtoes9134 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:17 pm
How would Ruff coming to Boone (BIG IF) be bad for ECU?
I think Ruff was a heck of a recruiter, who's ties are deep in eastern NC.

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The biggest loss for Ruff at ECU was offensive savant Lincoln Riley.
Sure but who was Lincoln Riley before Ruff tabbed him OC. Ruff had a succession plan, Dave Nichols was our OC replacement also off the Mike Leach's tree and honestly far more qualified than Riley when he got the job. He had been an OC in JUCO's prior as well. Riley's younger brother was also clearly being groomed when Nichols left as next in line. Mike Houton's OC at JMU was also on our staff.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by ECU » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:32 am

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Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:52 pm
Well aware of how 2015 played out for you all. Go check his last 2-3 classes and see how many made it 4 years and/or were impact players, I’ve done it and it’s not good.
#1 all of our best players under Ruff were practically afterthought recruits. Hardy, Carden, I. Jones etc etc barely had any D1 offers. If you are looking at recruiting rankings and trying to extrapolate from that nonsense you are wasting your time. Also many players left ECU specifically because we fired Ruff or they didn't like Mo from those last classes, not because of anything he did including our top 2 QB's that following year.

We obviously ran an Air Raid system under Ruff that made our players look amazing and maxed their talent. Just look at Gardner Minshew under Mo and now under Mike Leach. It's night and day and you can't judge the players Ruff left Mo and what they did under his garbage coaching....
As for Navy they scored 56, 36, 76, and 45 in his last year on Ruffins defenses. Since our main rival runs the option, yeah I’m good on that. Ruff is a good man and Compher screwed up firing him but he’s not at all who I want out of this hire.
Navy was in or around the top 25 at least two or 3 of those games. Yeah it's Navy but they have a heck of a program as well.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by Yosef10 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:16 pm

ECU wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:32 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:52 pm
Well aware of how 2015 played out for you all. Go check his last 2-3 classes and see how many made it 4 years and/or were impact players, I’ve done it and it’s not good.
#1 all of our best players under Ruff were practically afterthought recruits. Hardy, Carden, I. Jones etc etc barely had any D1 offers. If you are looking at recruiting rankings and trying to extrapolate from that nonsense you are wasting your time. Also many players left ECU specifically because we fired Ruff or they didn't like Mo from those last classes, not because of anything he did including our top 2 QB's that following year.

We obviously ran an Air Raid system under Ruff that made our players look amazing and maxed their talent. Just look at Gardner Minshew under Mo and now under Mike Leach. It's night and day and you can't judge the players Ruff left Mo and what they did under his garbage coaching....
As for Navy they scored 56, 36, 76, and 45 in his last year on Ruffins defenses. Since our main rival runs the option, yeah I’m good on that. Ruff is a good man and Compher screwed up firing him but he’s not at all who I want out of this hire.
Navy was in or around the top 25 at least two or 3 of those games. Yeah it's Navy but they have a heck of a program as well.
I’m not looking at recruiting rankings. Look at his 2015 class - out of the FIFTEEN commits you’re lucky to find THREE who made it 4 years and/or played any meaningful role. And i mean lucky to find three. I’m from Greenville and pay just as much attention to ECU as I do App. I know what I’m speaking on here. Ruffin left absolutely nothing to build on. And i don’t care that Navy was in and around the top 25, if you have a defensive minded head coach who is continually allowed 50+ to an option team you have a serious problem. The Navy team he allowed to hang 70 on you guys finished 9-4 so....

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by ECU » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:35 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:16 pm
ECU wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:32 am
Yosef10 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:52 pm
Well aware of how 2015 played out for you all. Go check his last 2-3 classes and see how many made it 4 years and/or were impact players, I’ve done it and it’s not good.
#1 all of our best players under Ruff were practically afterthought recruits. Hardy, Carden, I. Jones etc etc barely had any D1 offers. If you are looking at recruiting rankings and trying to extrapolate from that nonsense you are wasting your time. Also many players left ECU specifically because we fired Ruff or they didn't like Mo from those last classes, not because of anything he did including our top 2 QB's that following year.

We obviously ran an Air Raid system under Ruff that made our players look amazing and maxed their talent. Just look at Gardner Minshew under Mo and now under Mike Leach. It's night and day and you can't judge the players Ruff left Mo and what they did under his garbage coaching....
As for Navy they scored 56, 36, 76, and 45 in his last year on Ruffins defenses. Since our main rival runs the option, yeah I’m good on that. Ruff is a good man and Compher screwed up firing him but he’s not at all who I want out of this hire.
Navy was in or around the top 25 at least two or 3 of those games. Yeah it's Navy but they have a heck of a program as well.
I’m not looking at recruiting rankings. Look at his 2015 class - out of the FIFTEEN commits you’re lucky to find THREE who made it 4 years and/or played any meaningful role. And i mean lucky to find three. I’m from Greenville and pay just as much attention to ECU as I do App. I know what I’m speaking on here. Ruffin left absolutely nothing to build on. And i don’t care that Navy was in and around the top 25, if you have a defensive minded head coach who is continually allowed 50+ to an option team you have a serious problem. The Navy team he allowed to hang 70 on you guys finished 9-4 so....
Again you can't blame that crap on Ruff when he wasn't even here the last 3 years. Just a bunch of garbage and spin people made up for Mo struggling when the reality was he sucked as a coach and a lot of those players got out of town because they didn't want to play for him and who can blame them. No player was going to look good in his "systems". Again look at Minshew from turd to Heisman hopeful. The team Ruff left had a lot of talent and everyone thought it until they had to 180 and make excuses for why we sucked when it was Mo that sucked all along.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by App90 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:48 pm

Multiple people connected to Louisville describe the situation as not a scenario in which a long-term rebuild would be tolerated, even if that’s what needed.

If this is the case then Satt would best leaving UL alone. Time will tell.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by appstate24 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:43 pm

I really really hope Satt stays. I just think he is such an incredible ambassador for OUR school. It’s not looking good, but I truly hope we get him at least one more year. Would love him to be here for the team we will have next year.

Either way, I really hope he and his staff coach us in New Orleans. I don’t buy the idea that he wouldn’t give us his all. He bleeds black & gold and loves these kids. I have no doubt they would be totally dialed in for MTSU.

If he does leave (praying and hanging on the every bit of hope he stays) any chance we give the keys to Coach Brown to keep him? Not to mention I think he is another incredible talent. What is everyone’s thoughts on getting Scot Sloan back up on the mountain?

I understand it and will love Satt regardless, but the situation sucks!! In a perfect world we keep Satt for another 20 years. (We can dream right?!)

Cant wait to cheer on the boys in Nola, and hopefully SS as well. GO APPS!!

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:44 pm

App90 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:48 pm
Multiple people connected to Louisville describe the situation as not a scenario in which a long-term rebuild would be tolerated, even if that’s what needed.

If this is the case then Satt would best leaving UL alone. Time will tell.
That is what is frustrating about this. They would be willing to be more tolerant of Brohm since he was the favorite son. I have a feeling that Satt would be out of a job in three years depending on his buyout. Not his fault, but he is not Brohm and that is how some people would always see him.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by ah59396 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:48 pm

I’m hearing Nick Saban is looking for a new challenge. Should be an easy get.
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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by appstatealum » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:16 pm

Early rumblings are Tim Horton from Auburn. He already has a “posse” of App guys from the mid 90’s he could bring if we lose a handful to UL. This could be a nice grab, but I would love to retain Brown in the process.
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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by appstatealum » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:18 pm

ah59396 wrote:
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I’m hearing Nick Saban is looking for a new challenge. Should be an easy get.
But he would actually have to coach because when won’t just have 5 star recruits lined up 3 deep on the depth chart.....

Last time he actually had to coach, NFL, he fell flat.
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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by The Rock » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:25 pm

Don’t get me wrong, I love App and I do believe there is a culture and a certain work ethic and swagger App has. With that said, I don’t want to put ourselves in a box of only App alumni.
If there is someone qualified who has been on this staff in the recent years and familiar with this system and this success,fine, but I don’t want to get someone who played here 20 years ago and assume he will be the next Satterfield.

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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:25 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:16 pm
Early rumblings are Tim Horton from Auburn. He already has a “posse” of App guys from the mid 90’s he could bring if we lose a handful to UL. This could be a nice grab, but I would love to retain Brown in the process.

I actually would like that hire a bunch. He is a huge fan of Jerry Moore who gave him his first shot in coaching and Auburn shares a bunch of run game concepts with what we do. That would make it an easier transition for the offense. If not, I think Brown is a rising star and I wouldn't be against that internal hire at all. Before this season, Shawn Elliot would have been the leader in the clubhouse, but G States record this year would make him a super tough sell to the fan base.
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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by ah59396 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:27 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:16 pm
Early rumblings are Tim Horton from Auburn. He already has a “posse” of App guys from the mid 90’s he could bring if we lose a handful to UL. This could be a nice grab, but I would love to retain Brown in the process.
As a Canadian, I can fully get behind having a coach named Tim Horton.
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Re: Early: possible replacements?

Unread post by appstatealum » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:31 pm

ASUPATCH wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:25 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:16 pm
Early rumblings are Tim Horton from Auburn. He already has a “posse” of App guys from the mid 90’s he could bring if we lose a handful to UL. This could be a nice grab, but I would love to retain Brown in the process.

I actually would like that hire a bunch. He is a huge fan of Jerry Moore who gave him his first shot in coaching and Auburn shares a bunch of run game concepts with what we do. That would make it an easier transition for the offense. If not, I think Brown is a rising star and I wouldn't be against that internal hire at all. Before this season, Shawn Elliot would have been the leader in the clubhouse, but G States record this year would make him a super tough sell to the fan base.
Agree with you on all of this. *toasting my beer*
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