Coach Drink Staff Thread

[AppSt94]

No offense to Ivey, but he is nowhere near the caliber of Roof. Roof was winning a National Title in 2010 while Ivey was coaching high school ball.

[Appstate88]

The first test for our new staff is to see if can they recruit 2 OL, a QB, a DL and a Safety. I’ll be watching to see if any of the new assistant coaches can make an immediate impact. Can Dorsey, Link and soon to be named others build HS coaches relationships, gain player interest, and get commitments like our last staff. How does Roof help us in this area?

[unknown]

No offense to Ivey, but he is nowhere near the caliber of Roof. Roof was winning a National Title in 2010 while Ivey was coaching high school ball.

Jones called the defense in the bowl game. Auburn did not win that championship with defense. That Championship was won with Malzahn, Newton and offense. He got fired at GT and became NC States 10th coach once it was approved by the NCAA. He is moving down a level because he couldn't sustain where he is.

However, like I said, I think we should actually let him coach here a little bit before we run him out of town

[unknown]

No offense to Ivey, but he is nowhere near the caliber of Roof. Roof was winning a National Title in 2010 while Ivey was coaching high school ball.

Lots of things change in 8-10 years. Doug Peterson was coaching High School ball in n 2008 and he won the Super Bowl last year.

[AppHoops]

No offense to Ivey, but he is nowhere near the caliber of Roof. Roof was winning a National Title in 2010 while Ivey was coaching high school ball.

Jones called the defense in the bowl game. Auburn did not win that championship with defense. That Championship was won with Malzahn, Newton and offense. He got fired at GT and became NC States 10th coach once it was approved by the NCAA. He is moving down a level because he couldn't sustain where he is.

However, like I said, I think we should actually let him coach here a little bit before we run him out of town

This isn’t an endorsement of Roof from me but just to clarify.

Yes that 2010 Auburn team was led by Cam and that offense all year but that defense held an Oregon team that averaged close to 50 ppg that season to 19 in the title game.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Only way this doesn’t suck is if he is not the lone DC.

[JMappfan5]

OMG not Jeff Jones. We are all going to die.

I heard that 10 players are leaving because of this hire!!!

[unknown]

No offense to Ivey, but he is nowhere near the caliber of Roof. Roof was winning a National Title in 2010 while Ivey was coaching high school ball.

Jones called the defense in the bowl game. Auburn did not win that championship with defense. That Championship was won with Malzahn, Newton and offense. He got fired at GT and became NC States 10th coach once it was approved by the NCAA. He is moving down a level because he couldn't sustain where he is.

However, like I said, I think we should actually let him coach here a little bit before we run him out of town

This isn’t an endorsement of Roof from me but just to clarify.

Yes that 2010 Auburn team was led by Cam and that offense all year but that defense held an Oregon team that averaged close to 50 ppg that season to 19 in the title game.

I said we should let the man coach before we run him out of Boone. I'm always for giving the new guy a chance. There are many things that go into a coaches success or lack there of

[ah59396]

This thread is gold. Let’s, you know, play some football before we all freak out. I’ll reserve judgement until after Bowl season in 2019.

[JMappfan5]

Players make a good system great and we have great players.

[Appstate88]

Players make a good system great and we have great players.

When and Who was the last great player Roof recruited and committed to play for him?

[BallantyneApp]

If he (Roof) looks at our tape from the last few years and decides to switch from the 3-4 he doesn’t deserve to be employed at all.
I will email the AD and encourage all of you to as well (if that scenario come say to fruition)

Why wait? If you do it after he is hired you will accomplish nothing. If DG hears from many vocal/financial supporters before the hire it could actually mean something.

For a few reasons.

It isn't official, and i'm not willing to clog up Doug Gillin's inbox with supposition on who they may hire.
And more importantly , I'm willing to give someone who has been coaching longer than i've been alive a chance to come in and improve the defense. To me, that means tweaking (not re-tooling) our 3-4 base. With small improvements we can be really nasty next year. I think doing a re-tool now just wastes one of the best opportunities App football has ever had in regards to national exposure.

It is Gillins and Coach Drinks remit to hire the best people to maximize what we can do at App. I trust they will act in their own best interest.

But I believe there is no issue with emailing the AD. They answer to fans as their customers.

[JMappfan5]

You guys are entertaining!!! LMAO!!!

[asu66]

Good afternoon!

First of all let me say that I truly appreciate all you have done for my university. You have been the best AD in our history. I have been nothing but impressed with the hires you have made. However, I do not see how Ted Roof fits our culture. To my knowledge he hasn’t even coached a 3-4 defense. Our defense was top notch this season and incredibly fun to watch. The defense is always my favorite part of the game and this year was amazing. I just don’t see how someone who was about to be fired at GaTech and who State fans are praying that he leaves will be a good fit for us.

Thanks again for all you have done! I am truly grateful and I am hoping these are just rumors and Roof is not our guy.

Thanks!
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Yosef Donor

Sent that to Doug.

Roof ran a 3-4 at Minnesota. Thought you might like to know that.

Thought you might like to know that Minnesota was 11 years ago...half of a full generation ago. The guy's career has begun a downward spiral.

I truly hope this whole "Ted Roof" thing is merely a trial balloon designed to get feedback from the App Nation. If so, the verdict's in! A loud and clear "NO!"

[AppSt94]

Good afternoon!

First of all let me say that I truly appreciate all you have done for my university. You have been the best AD in our history. I have been nothing but impressed with the hires you have made. However, I do not see how Ted Roof fits our culture. To my knowledge he hasn’t even coached a 3-4 defense. Our defense was top notch this season and incredibly fun to watch. The defense is always my favorite part of the game and this year was amazing. I just don’t see how someone who was about to be fired at GaTech and who State fans are praying that he leaves will be a good fit for us.

Thanks again for all you have done! I am truly grateful and I am hoping these are just rumors and Roof is not our guy.

Thanks!
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Yosef Donor

Sent that to Doug.

Roof ran a 3-4 at Minnesota. Thought you might like to know that.

Thought you might like to know that Minnesota was 11 years ago...half of a full generation ago. The guy's career has begun a downward spiral.

I truly hope this whole "Ted Roof" thing is merely a trial balloon designed to get feedback from the App Nation. If so, the verdict's in! A loud and clear "NO!"

The original poster stated that he had never coached, to their knowledge, the 3-4. Just clarifying that he had. Both at Minnesota and Auburn.

[asu66]

This thread is total madness with occasional profound and thoughtful posts thrown in. WarApp penned a rather succinct summary of the rumored/proposed "Ted Roof" hiring that is sticking in my craw. This is twisted stuff, but if true we have no choice but to accept it, move on and hope for the best of outcomes.

WarApp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:02 pm

App State is hiring the guy who was fired by Georgia Tech so Georgia Tech could hire the guy that put in App State's defense.

Still...really twisted...can't make this stuff up!

[AppSt94]

Who hasn’t been fired as DC at Tech? how many DCs have they had in PJs time as HC?

[asu66]

Who hasn’t been fired as DC at Tech? how many DCs have they had in PJs time as HC?

That's a weak comeback. The number you seek is totally inconsequential. Only one poses impact on our program.

[AppSt94]

Who hasn’t been fired as DC at Tech? how many DCs have they had in PJs time as HC?

That's a weak comeback. The number you seek is totally inconsequential. Only one poses impact on our program.

If you want to stir yourself into a frenzy over who might become a part of our coaching staff, be my guest. If you are so convinced that this spells doom for App then there isn’t anything that can be said to make you think any other way. I was just pointing this out to make the case that not all things happen for what seems like the obvious root cause. Al Groh was fired from Ga Tech as well and he is a freaking great coach. There have been at least 5 DCs roll through Atlanta in PJs 10 year tenure as coach. Were they all bad? Al Groh is not. So the common denominator is PJ. Stop and ask some questions as to why. For instance, why does he move around a lot? Does he leave programs in a better situation? What could be the plan with this hire? How can his presence work out here? Again, he hasn’t been announced and you are already against this hire. For whatever reasons. The dude can coach and has proved it time and again. He is versed is several schemes and isn’t locked into one. He is aggressive with an attacking defense. More importantly, he gets us back into Atlanta for recruiting purposes that we had lost with the departures of Sloan and Brown. He also has been a HC and may be coming in to mentor a young HC in his first stint, while providing said mentee a trusted asset on the defensive side of the ball so that he can focus on the offense and HC duties. He may not check the boxes that you want, but he checks the boxes that the Visor needs.

[Yosef84]

I am sure that there are plenty on this board who know more about football than I do, but I never realized how many football experts we apparently have. To be able to take a past record of a coach and apply his past record to our situation with absolute certainty of his failure....wow. That's an impressive ability.

If Roof is named the DC then perhaps before we proclaim the death of the App D, let's consider a few things:
1) DG and Coach Drink have both stated in no uncertain terms that we would be using the 3-4 scheme on D. That's not going to change.
2) Coaching success is situational. You do not win a National / BCS championship without defense, especially in the SEC. The situation at GT is completely different from App in terms of recruiting, history, culture....EVERYTHING. I hope Woody would have succeeded but we honestly don't know that based on his one year there.
3) There is a huge difference between being asked to build a program vs. being able to maintain it. Those are different skill sets.
4) It was said early on that Roof is a "Play back and keep it in front of you" style DC whereas App is an attacking D. Some of you need to review the past 5 years more closely. Woody was always a "Keep it in front of you" style DC (both at Wofford and here). He got more aggressive when we had the horses to do so. My guess is that ANY DC will get more aggressive if he has those horses. You play the hand that you hold.

I'm not saying that people aren't allowed to express concerns, discuss, etc. The alarmist over-reactions in this thread seem just really over the top though. Calm down folks. We actually have a pretty good history of success at App under leadership that had "failed" at the "highest level" before landing here. Coach Drink has a lot more riding on this decision that anyone on this board, and he has a lot more basis on which to make his decision. I will trust him and wait to see how things look on the field next year. I'm betting we do damn well.