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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:20 am

Evans might be in a position to leave at the end of the year. He is ranked in the Top 25 RBs in some publications and another 1,000 yard rushing year could push him higher.
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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:55 am

I still think that Evans will evolve more into a slot receiver this season, assuming Peoples doesn't disappoint and given the situation at WR. If that happens, it will be tough for him to get 1,000 yards rushing, but he could have some monster all-purpose yards.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

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Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:55 am
I still think that Evans will evolve more into a slot receiver this season, assuming Peoples doesn't disappoint and given the situation at WR. If that happens, it will be tough for him to get 1,000 yards rushing, but he could have some monster all-purpose yards.
He will catch more passes for sure but he is the starter at RB. He is a threat to take everything to the house so you have to feed him.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:25 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:55 am
I still think that Evans will evolve more into a slot receiver this season, assuming Peoples doesn't disappoint and given the situation at WR. If that happens, it will be tough for him to get 1,000 yards rushing, but he could have some monster all-purpose yards.
He will catch more passes for sure but he is the starter at RB. He is a threat to take everything to the house so you have to feed him.
He is the starter for now, but it remains to be seen if that remains the case. I'm not taking anything away from Evans, but he is somewhat all or nothing as a RB. Once he finds space, he's obviously a HUGE threat but he isn't the guy you necessarily need to hand it to when you need 2 or 3 yards on third down. If Peoples emerges as predicted, I think he will become the feature RB and Evans will be used for his skills in space.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:05 am

I’m puzzled, AppStFan1, at why you think it’s your mission on this board to anonymously trash one of our former athletes? Time and time on here you’ve proven to be nothing less than a gigantic wind bag. But let’s suppose for argument sake that your information is reliable. Who, precisely, is it helping? It isn’t helping Duck’s family, who you’ve skillfully thrown under the bus by saying they gave him bad information. It doesn’t help our coaching staff, past or present, who unlike yourself have chosen to take the high road and refrain from making their opinions public on this matter. It doesn’t help your “source,” who I’m sure will be barred from future pro day events, should his or her name come to light. It doesn’t help the legitimate media members who cover this event because no doubt there will be more scrutiny of them and the information they’re allowed to publish. It certainly isn’t helping Duck, who must live with what surely is an extremely difficult decision. None of us — especially “insider” wannabes like yourself — will ever know Duck’s motivation. And in truth, it’s nobody’s business but his. He’s given his all to Appalachian State for three years and he has no one to apologize to, least of all some jerkwater on a message board. And finally, your crusade doesn’t help Appalachian State. In the next few months Duck will have a shot at making life-changing money. You say that won’t happen. That’s your opinion. Fine. But what if he does? Do you think he will be as willing to give back to our university after reading your trash jobs? Do you think his buddies Jalin Moore, Tae Hayes, Myquon Stout and Austin Exford will?

No, your posts are purely self serving. You’ve come across some insider intel and you think it somehow elevates your status here by demeaning and belittling a former athlete. In my eyes, the only person you’ve demeaned and belittled is yourself.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:25 am

AppGrad78 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:05 am
I’m puzzled, AppStFan1, at why you think it’s your mission on this board to anonymously trash one of our former athletes? Time and time on here you’ve proven to be nothing less than a gigantic wind bag. But let’s suppose for argument sake that your information is reliable. Who, precisely, is it helping? It isn’t helping Duck’s family, who you’ve skillfully thrown under the bus by saying they gave him bad information. It doesn’t help our coaching staff, past or present, who unlike yourself have chosen to take the high road and refrain from making their opinions public on this matter. It doesn’t help your “source,” who I’m sure will be barred from future pro day events, should his or her name come to light. It doesn’t help the legitimate media members who cover this event because no doubt there will be more scrutiny of them and the information they’re allowed to publish. It certainly isn’t helping Duck, who must live with what surely is an extremely difficult decision. None of us — especially “insider” wannabes like yourself — will ever know Duck’s motivation. And in truth, it’s nobody’s business but his. He’s given his all to Appalachian State for three years and he has no one to apologize to, least of all some jerkwater on a message board. And finally, your crusade doesn’t help Appalachian State. In the next few months Duck will have a shot at making life-changing money. You say that won’t happen. That’s your opinion. Fine. But what if he does? Do you think he will be as willing to give back to our university after reading your trash jobs? Do you think his buddies Jalin Moore, Tae Hayes, Myquon Stout and Austin Exford will?

No, your posts are purely self serving. You’ve come across some insider intel and you think it somehow elevates your status here by demeaning and belittling a former athlete. In my eyes, the only person you’ve demeaned and belittled is yourself.
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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:26 am

Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:25 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:55 am
I still think that Evans will evolve more into a slot receiver this season, assuming Peoples doesn't disappoint and given the situation at WR. If that happens, it will be tough for him to get 1,000 yards rushing, but he could have some monster all-purpose yards.
He will catch more passes for sure but he is the starter at RB. He is a threat to take everything to the house so you have to feed him.
He is the starter for now, but it remains to be seen if that remains the case. I'm not taking anything away from Evans, but he is somewhat all or nothing as a RB. Once he finds space, he's obviously a HUGE threat but he isn't the guy you necessarily need to hand it to when you need 2 or 3 yards on third down. If Peoples emerges as predicted, I think he will become the feature RB and Evans will be used for his skills in space.
If we were still operating under the former staff then I would challenge you more on this but with Eli, all bets are off on what will happen. After spring ball Williams and Peoples were 2A and 2B. I like Peoples as much as everyone else, but he hasn't done what he does against fresh defenders and consistently 20 times over a game. Not saying that he can't or won't. We just need to see it. I get what your saying about Evans on short yardage, but he doesn't need to be an every down back. None of them do really. But he has big play capability.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:26 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:25 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:55 am
I still think that Evans will evolve more into a slot receiver this season, assuming Peoples doesn't disappoint and given the situation at WR. If that happens, it will be tough for him to get 1,000 yards rushing, but he could have some monster all-purpose yards.
He will catch more passes for sure but he is the starter at RB. He is a threat to take everything to the house so you have to feed him.
He is the starter for now, but it remains to be seen if that remains the case. I'm not taking anything away from Evans, but he is somewhat all or nothing as a RB. Once he finds space, he's obviously a HUGE threat but he isn't the guy you necessarily need to hand it to when you need 2 or 3 yards on third down. If Peoples emerges as predicted, I think he will become the feature RB and Evans will be used for his skills in space.
If we were still operating under the former staff then I would challenge you more on this but with Eli, all bets are off on what will happen. After spring ball Williams and Peoples were 2A and 2B. I like Peoples as much as everyone else, but he hasn't done what he does against fresh defenders and consistently 20 times over a game. Not saying that he can't or won't. We just need to see it. I get what your saying about Evans on short yardage, but he doesn't need to be an every down back. None of them do really. But he has big play capability.
We're all guessing at the impact the new coaching philosophy will have. I certainly don't "know" anything. That's why my comments are filled with qualifiers ("if" and "I think"). It's all speculation at this point, but it's the off season so at least it's something to discuss.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 am

Rekdiver wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:25 am
AppGrad78 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:05 am
I’m puzzled, AppStFan1, at why you think it’s your mission on this board to anonymously trash one of our former athletes? Time and time on here you’ve proven to be nothing less than a gigantic wind bag. But let’s suppose for argument sake that your information is reliable. Who, precisely, is it helping? It isn’t helping Duck’s family, who you’ve skillfully thrown under the bus by saying they gave him bad information. It doesn’t help our coaching staff, past or present, who unlike yourself have chosen to take the high road and refrain from making their opinions public on this matter. It doesn’t help your “source,” who I’m sure will be barred from future pro day events, should his or her name come to light. It doesn’t help the legitimate media members who cover this event because no doubt there will be more scrutiny of them and the information they’re allowed to publish. It certainly isn’t helping Duck, who must live with what surely is an extremely difficult decision. None of us — especially “insider” wannabes like yourself — will ever know Duck’s motivation. And in truth, it’s nobody’s business but his. He’s given his all to Appalachian State for three years and he has no one to apologize to, least of all some jerkwater on a message board. And finally, your crusade doesn’t help Appalachian State. In the next few months Duck will have a shot at making life-changing money. You say that won’t happen. That’s your opinion. Fine. But what if he does? Do you think he will be as willing to give back to our university after reading your trash jobs? Do you think his buddies Jalin Moore, Tae Hayes, Myquon Stout and Austin Exford will?

No, your posts are purely self serving. You’ve come across some insider intel and you think it somehow elevates your status here by demeaning and belittling a former athlete. In my eyes, the only person you’ve demeaned and belittled is yourself.
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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:13 am

Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:26 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:25 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:55 am
I still think that Evans will evolve more into a slot receiver this season, assuming Peoples doesn't disappoint and given the situation at WR. If that happens, it will be tough for him to get 1,000 yards rushing, but he could have some monster all-purpose yards.
He will catch more passes for sure but he is the starter at RB. He is a threat to take everything to the house so you have to feed him.
He is the starter for now, but it remains to be seen if that remains the case. I'm not taking anything away from Evans, but he is somewhat all or nothing as a RB. Once he finds space, he's obviously a HUGE threat but he isn't the guy you necessarily need to hand it to when you need 2 or 3 yards on third down. If Peoples emerges as predicted, I think he will become the feature RB and Evans will be used for his skills in space.
If we were still operating under the former staff then I would challenge you more on this but with Eli, all bets are off on what will happen. After spring ball Williams and Peoples were 2A and 2B. I like Peoples as much as everyone else, but he hasn't done what he does against fresh defenders and consistently 20 times over a game. Not saying that he can't or won't. We just need to see it. I get what your saying about Evans on short yardage, but he doesn't need to be an every down back. None of them do really. But he has big play capability.
We're all guessing at the impact the new coaching philosophy will have. I certainly don't "know" anything. That's why my comments are filled with qualifiers ("if" and "I think"). It's all speculation at this point, but it's the off season so at least it's something to discuss.

Go Apps!
That's fair. I don't think that you are wrong in your assumption with Evans. He is probably the most dynamic player that we have had since AE. It was laid out to me towards the end of last year that the Evan's to slot experiment was dead. But that came before the coaching change. I would expect the two best receiving backs to see the majority of the snaps next year.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by Yosef84 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:04 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:13 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:26 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:25 am

He will catch more passes for sure but he is the starter at RB. He is a threat to take everything to the house so you have to feed him.
He is the starter for now, but it remains to be seen if that remains the case. I'm not taking anything away from Evans, but he is somewhat all or nothing as a RB. Once he finds space, he's obviously a HUGE threat but he isn't the guy you necessarily need to hand it to when you need 2 or 3 yards on third down. If Peoples emerges as predicted, I think he will become the feature RB and Evans will be used for his skills in space.
If we were still operating under the former staff then I would challenge you more on this but with Eli, all bets are off on what will happen. After spring ball Williams and Peoples were 2A and 2B. I like Peoples as much as everyone else, but he hasn't done what he does against fresh defenders and consistently 20 times over a game. Not saying that he can't or won't. We just need to see it. I get what your saying about Evans on short yardage, but he doesn't need to be an every down back. None of them do really. But he has big play capability.
We're all guessing at the impact the new coaching philosophy will have. I certainly don't "know" anything. That's why my comments are filled with qualifiers ("if" and "I think"). It's all speculation at this point, but it's the off season so at least it's something to discuss.

Go Apps!
That's fair. I don't think that you are wrong in your assumption with Evans. He is probably the most dynamic player that we have had since AE. It was laid out to me towards the end of last year that the Evan's to slot experiment was dead. But that came before the coaching change. I would expect the two best receiving backs to see the majority of the snaps next year.
Yes, the coaching change and the transfer of Adams and Collins are big factors (again....I think).

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by NavyApp » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:11 am

Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:04 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:13 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:54 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:26 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:59 am


He is the starter for now, but it remains to be seen if that remains the case. I'm not taking anything away from Evans, but he is somewhat all or nothing as a RB. Once he finds space, he's obviously a HUGE threat but he isn't the guy you necessarily need to hand it to when you need 2 or 3 yards on third down. If Peoples emerges as predicted, I think he will become the feature RB and Evans will be used for his skills in space.
If we were still operating under the former staff then I would challenge you more on this but with Eli, all bets are off on what will happen. After spring ball Williams and Peoples were 2A and 2B. I like Peoples as much as everyone else, but he hasn't done what he does against fresh defenders and consistently 20 times over a game. Not saying that he can't or won't. We just need to see it. I get what your saying about Evans on short yardage, but he doesn't need to be an every down back. None of them do really. But he has big play capability.
We're all guessing at the impact the new coaching philosophy will have. I certainly don't "know" anything. That's why my comments are filled with qualifiers ("if" and "I think"). It's all speculation at this point, but it's the off season so at least it's something to discuss.

Go Apps!
That's fair. I don't think that you are wrong in your assumption with Evans. He is probably the most dynamic player that we have had since AE. It was laid out to me towards the end of last year that the Evan's to slot experiment was dead. But that came before the coaching change. I would expect the two best receiving backs to see the majority of the snaps next year.
Yes, the coaching change and the transfer of Adams and Collins are big factors (again....I think).
I fully expect to see Evans used in a similar fashion as Nyheim Hines was. Similar size and skill set. I believe Evans has more wiggle in the hips than Hines but the explosion and the hands are so similar. At the end of the day I love this offense and the fact that Drink is a an offensive wunderkind is a cherry on top! Is it time for that ETSU game yet?
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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:24 am

Adams is not as a big of loss as Collins. Adams was a Senior and was an All-American at down field blocking. He will be missed but not irreplaceable. Collins is a bit more of an issue has be leaves us more depth issues on the outside and now we will need to fill the void with some even younger guys than the RS Freshman Collins.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:40 am

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Evans might be in a position to leave at the end of the year. He is ranked in the Top 25 RBs in some publications and another 1,000 yard rushing year could push him higher.
Evans could be one who flirts with it but if he is smart he will stay. He is not an every down back and more of a swiss army knife type of player. I mean if he is the 8th or 9th best junior RB remember that the rest of them are probably going early plus you have 4-5 seniors who would likely go up there too. That would put him about 15-16 range and slot him in the late rounds. Should he give up a year at App just to go in 6-7? Once you get to the late rounds it is truly 50/50 whether a player is picked. Anything can happen. Everyone thought Moore was going for sure before I found out that info from my friend and posted that he may not get picked. If Jalin goes undrafted, then Evans should stay. Let's see where Peoples end up in 2 years from now. He may be one because he is so much bigger than Evans.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:49 am

AppGrad78 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:05 am
I’m puzzled, AppStFan1, at why you think it’s your mission on this board to anonymously trash one of our former athletes? Time and time on here you’ve proven to be nothing less than a gigantic wind bag. But let’s suppose for argument sake that your information is reliable. Who, precisely, is it helping? It isn’t helping Duck’s family, who you’ve skillfully thrown under the bus by saying they gave him bad information. It doesn’t help our coaching staff, past or present, who unlike yourself have chosen to take the high road and refrain from making their opinions public on this matter. It doesn’t help your “source,” who I’m sure will be barred from future pro day events, should his or her name come to light. It doesn’t help the legitimate media members who cover this event because no doubt there will be more scrutiny of them and the information they’re allowed to publish. It certainly isn’t helping Duck, who must live with what surely is an extremely difficult decision. None of us — especially “insider” wannabes like yourself — will ever know Duck’s motivation. And in truth, it’s nobody’s business but his. He’s given his all to Appalachian State for three years and he has no one to apologize to, least of all some jerkwater on a message board. And finally, your crusade doesn’t help Appalachian State. In the next few months Duck will have a shot at making life-changing money. You say that won’t happen. That’s your opinion. Fine. But what if he does? Do you think he will be as willing to give back to our university after reading your trash jobs? Do you think his buddies Jalin Moore, Tae Hayes, Myquon Stout and Austin Exford will?

No, your posts are purely self serving. You’ve come across some insider intel and you think it somehow elevates your status here by demeaning and belittling a former athlete. In my eyes, the only person you’ve demeaned and belittled is yourself.
You look at it as trashing but I look at this as a learning lesson for other players.

Can we agree on this?

1. I want all of our guys to get their degree.
2. I want all of our guys to be able to do well once they leave App and represent not just our school but their families and themselves well.
3. I want all of our players to get good advice and make the right decisions.

If you can agree with all of that, then we see everything the same. I just have gone about the reaction here different. I did not need inside info to think Duck would not get drafted. I wish he had but I was just stating the truth and what really happened here. I hope he makes it and do believe he can. I just know that he will regret listening to those he did because we could have a special season that he will miss out on and he is giving up one of the best years of his life- senior year of college.

I don't know if you realize but we already don't have a ton of former players who give a lot of money back to the school. We need more of them too. I love Duck and all of these guys but how is telling the truth just trashing our guys? We should be tougher on our own. I have seen players from all these P5 schools make mistakes and I certainly don't want to see a yearly thing of losing 1-2 players early to the pros who don't get drafted. Unless they have a 1st or 2nd round grade from the NFL they need to come back. I wanted Duck to stay and know that it was in his best interest.

I hope all of our guys make a team but we know they all can't. 99% of college athletes will go pro in something other than sports. Less than 1% of college football players make a roster and when about 140 players left early, and numbers keep rising, it is a lesson to stay in school unless you have done your homework and know you won't fall past the 4th or 5th round for sure. Duck did not do that and I hope that nobody else makes that mistake.

Just telling someone fluff and sugar coating everything does nobody any good. Life is hard and we make mistakes. I just hope this deal with Duck is a learning experience for the rest and it does not happen again. Do you think I liked seeing Duck go undrafted? It truly hurts me that we have a player who gave up his senior year and did not get drafted. It looks bad from the outside but I'm sure he feels awful. I hope he can somehow make it.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by Stonewall » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:07 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
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Adams is not as a big of loss as Collins. Adams was a Senior and was an All-American at down field blocking. He will be missed but not irreplaceable. Collins is a bit more of an issue has be leaves us more depth issues on the outside and now we will need to fill the void with some even younger guys than the RS Freshman Collins.
Virgil can go outside with Evans in the slot.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:03 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:07 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:24 am
Adams is not as a big of loss as Collins. Adams was a Senior and was an All-American at down field blocking. He will be missed but not irreplaceable. Collins is a bit more of an issue has be leaves us more depth issues on the outside and now we will need to fill the void with some even younger guys than the RS Freshman Collins.
Virgil can go outside with Evans in the slot.
Virgil is one I hope puts it all together this year because he has lethal speed. I am really hoping to see him step up and become a 60 catch, 8-10 TD guy at least.

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by ah59396 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:30 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:49 am
AppGrad78 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:05 am
I’m puzzled, AppStFan1, at why you think it’s your mission on this board to anonymously trash one of our former athletes? Time and time on here you’ve proven to be nothing less than a gigantic wind bag. But let’s suppose for argument sake that your information is reliable. Who, precisely, is it helping? It isn’t helping Duck’s family, who you’ve skillfully thrown under the bus by saying they gave him bad information. It doesn’t help our coaching staff, past or present, who unlike yourself have chosen to take the high road and refrain from making their opinions public on this matter. It doesn’t help your “source,” who I’m sure will be barred from future pro day events, should his or her name come to light. It doesn’t help the legitimate media members who cover this event because no doubt there will be more scrutiny of them and the information they’re allowed to publish. It certainly isn’t helping Duck, who must live with what surely is an extremely difficult decision. None of us — especially “insider” wannabes like yourself — will ever know Duck’s motivation. And in truth, it’s nobody’s business but his. He’s given his all to Appalachian State for three years and he has no one to apologize to, least of all some jerkwater on a message board. And finally, your crusade doesn’t help Appalachian State. In the next few months Duck will have a shot at making life-changing money. You say that won’t happen. That’s your opinion. Fine. But what if he does? Do you think he will be as willing to give back to our university after reading your trash jobs? Do you think his buddies Jalin Moore, Tae Hayes, Myquon Stout and Austin Exford will?

No, your posts are purely self serving. You’ve come across some insider intel and you think it somehow elevates your status here by demeaning and belittling a former athlete. In my eyes, the only person you’ve demeaned and belittled is yourself.
You look at it as trashing but I look at this as a learning lesson for other players.

Can we agree on this?

1. I want all of our guys to get their degree.
2. I want all of our guys to be able to do well once they leave App and represent not just our school but their families and themselves well.
3. I want all of our players to get good advice and make the right decisions.

If you can agree with all of that, then we see everything the same. I just have gone about the reaction here different. I did not need inside info to think Duck would not get drafted. I wish he had but I was just stating the truth and what really happened here. I hope he makes it and do believe he can. I just know that he will regret listening to those he did because we could have a special season that he will miss out on and he is giving up one of the best years of his life- senior year of college.

I don't know if you realize but we already don't have a ton of former players who give a lot of money back to the school. We need more of them too. I love Duck and all of these guys but how is telling the truth just trashing our guys? We should be tougher on our own. I have seen players from all these P5 schools make mistakes and I certainly don't want to see a yearly thing of losing 1-2 players early to the pros who don't get drafted. Unless they have a 1st or 2nd round grade from the NFL they need to come back. I wanted Duck to stay and know that it was in his best interest.

I hope all of our guys make a team but we know they all can't. 99% of college athletes will go pro in something other than sports. Less than 1% of college football players make a roster and when about 140 players left early, and numbers keep rising, it is a lesson to stay in school unless you have done your homework and know you won't fall past the 4th or 5th round for sure. Duck did not do that and I hope that nobody else makes that mistake.

Just telling someone fluff and sugar coating everything does nobody any good. Life is hard and we make mistakes. I just hope this deal with Duck is a learning experience for the rest and it does not happen again. Do you think I liked seeing Duck go undrafted? It truly hurts me that we have a player who gave up his senior year and did not get drafted. It looks bad from the outside but I'm sure he feels awful. I hope he can somehow make it.

The biggest issue for Duck’s draft stock is his height. He could have played here for another decade and he wouldn’t have grown an inch. He left at the right time IMO.
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Re: Pro Day 3/28

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:11 pm

ah59396 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:30 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:49 am
AppGrad78 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:05 am
I’m puzzled, AppStFan1, at why you think it’s your mission on this board to anonymously trash one of our former athletes? Time and time on here you’ve proven to be nothing less than a gigantic wind bag. But let’s suppose for argument sake that your information is reliable. Who, precisely, is it helping? It isn’t helping Duck’s family, who you’ve skillfully thrown under the bus by saying they gave him bad information. It doesn’t help our coaching staff, past or present, who unlike yourself have chosen to take the high road and refrain from making their opinions public on this matter. It doesn’t help your “source,” who I’m sure will be barred from future pro day events, should his or her name come to light. It doesn’t help the legitimate media members who cover this event because no doubt there will be more scrutiny of them and the information they’re allowed to publish. It certainly isn’t helping Duck, who must live with what surely is an extremely difficult decision. None of us — especially “insider” wannabes like yourself — will ever know Duck’s motivation. And in truth, it’s nobody’s business but his. He’s given his all to Appalachian State for three years and he has no one to apologize to, least of all some jerkwater on a message board. And finally, your crusade doesn’t help Appalachian State. In the next few months Duck will have a shot at making life-changing money. You say that won’t happen. That’s your opinion. Fine. But what if he does? Do you think he will be as willing to give back to our university after reading your trash jobs? Do you think his buddies Jalin Moore, Tae Hayes, Myquon Stout and Austin Exford will?

No, your posts are purely self serving. You’ve come across some insider intel and you think it somehow elevates your status here by demeaning and belittling a former athlete. In my eyes, the only person you’ve demeaned and belittled is yourself.
You look at it as trashing but I look at this as a learning lesson for other players.

Can we agree on this?

1. I want all of our guys to get their degree.
2. I want all of our guys to be able to do well once they leave App and represent not just our school but their families and themselves well.
3. I want all of our players to get good advice and make the right decisions.

If you can agree with all of that, then we see everything the same. I just have gone about the reaction here different. I did not need inside info to think Duck would not get drafted. I wish he had but I was just stating the truth and what really happened here. I hope he makes it and do believe he can. I just know that he will regret listening to those he did because we could have a special season that he will miss out on and he is giving up one of the best years of his life- senior year of college.

I don't know if you realize but we already don't have a ton of former players who give a lot of money back to the school. We need more of them too. I love Duck and all of these guys but how is telling the truth just trashing our guys? We should be tougher on our own. I have seen players from all these P5 schools make mistakes and I certainly don't want to see a yearly thing of losing 1-2 players early to the pros who don't get drafted. Unless they have a 1st or 2nd round grade from the NFL they need to come back. I wanted Duck to stay and know that it was in his best interest.

I hope all of our guys make a team but we know they all can't. 99% of college athletes will go pro in something other than sports. Less than 1% of college football players make a roster and when about 140 players left early, and numbers keep rising, it is a lesson to stay in school unless you have done your homework and know you won't fall past the 4th or 5th round for sure. Duck did not do that and I hope that nobody else makes that mistake.

Just telling someone fluff and sugar coating everything does nobody any good. Life is hard and we make mistakes. I just hope this deal with Duck is a learning experience for the rest and it does not happen again. Do you think I liked seeing Duck go undrafted? It truly hurts me that we have a player who gave up his senior year and did not get drafted. It looks bad from the outside but I'm sure he feels awful. I hope he can somehow make it.

The biggest issue for Duck’s draft stock is his height. He could have played here for another decade and he wouldn’t have grown an inch. He left at the right time IMO.
Agreed. Duck wasn't getting drafted this year or next. He may make a roster, though. Why wait a year for the same result?

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Re: Pro Day 3/28

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Adams is not as a big of loss as Collins. Adams was a Senior and was an All-American at down field blocking. He will be missed but not irreplaceable. Collins is a bit more of an issue has be leaves us more depth issues on the outside and now we will need to fill the void with some even younger guys than the RS Freshman Collins.
Virgil can go outside with Evans in the slot.
Evans gained 10-15lbs over this off season, he is building himself more into that RB mold than last year. I went into depth on what I would have liked to see with Evans being moved around on the Cabin a few months ago, but it is looking like that may be the case for Peoples more than Evans. Don’t be surprised to see Evans and Peoples being used in a variety of ways based on what I am hearing/seeing,
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