UNCC

[Rick83]

Granted that we have a new DC in Roof, but hasn't our defensive philosophy been to bend but don't break for a while now? In other words don't give up the big plays which at the expense of smaller gains? Obviously that can allow for drives to stay alive and reach down close to the 20 before the field shrinks and then shut them down. After this one game, it looks to me like we're still operating under that strategy.

[Dojan]

This one concerns me. This is Charlotte’s UNC game. I expect a fast start in the air for Charlotte.

[BeauFoster]

I think the RBs will get more involved in the passing game against uncc, if they're ready to take that role. I also think our defense will play closer to the line at the snap (again, if they're ready). The talent is there, they just have to be ready to adapt to the changes made in the offseason.

[tnave94]

Charlotte drove the ball last year, they just couldn't finish the drives. If they have the right QB, it's possible they could score points.

I feel like ETSU's line play might be better than Charlotte's, which could lead to more TFLs and sacks.

O/U is 52, which I would go over on.

By “the right QB” you mean the same one that they had last year that went for 108 yards, no TD’s and 1 int? Healy will be a good coach for them, but they don’t have the talent right now.

[AtlAppMan]

For those losing sleep against Charlotte, I ask you, “What do they have this year that they didn’t have last year?”

And, you need to watch some of their GW game last week to be able to assess both App and UNCC before you get a constricted sphincter.

I guarantee we were playing base everything so you will see a more aggressive App team this week for sure.

[ericsaid]

For the love of God and all things holy, can we please ban the Transitive Property logic from YC?

Transitive property doesn't work in football, but I was proven correct. Gardner Webb hasn't improved from last season which saw App win 72-7 and ETSU beat them 45-0. Charlotte just gave up 28 points to the Runnin' Bulldogs of Boiling Springs.

Ultimately, the only thing you have to go on, with minimal coaches film to study match-ups, is common opponents and since we are in Week 2 we don't have much to go on as of yet. I assume that the Charlotte game will go much the same way it did last season. So long as Roof cranks up the defensive pressures, allows the corners to press receivers from time to time, and the defensive line holds up, App should win this going away. That's not to say there will be no effort. We assume effort is equal on both sides of the equation.

[ericsaid]

The only thing I saw from our team that gave me pause last weekend was the soft coverage/pass defense. It tightened up in the red zone (as it often does) and ultimately only let up 7 points to an FCS conference champ.

UNCC doesn’t have a QB that set himself apart in an entire off season. As football guys often utter: 2=0. Reynolds seemed to clearly lead their offense better against GW. That guy virtually played the whole game against us last year and went 12/22, 108 yards, 1 INT, and 0 TD’s.

They really cued in on our run last season and did a decent job stopping it. Then Zac went 14/14, 295 yards, 0 INTs, and 3 TD’s.

UNCc special teams let up a TD against GW also.

They used auditory signals at the snap against GW. That’s going to be a disaster if they try it at the Rock. I don’t know if Healy heard about our crowd’s reputation but I don’t expect he’ll be hearing much of anything on Saturday.

Even without Sutton, People’s, and possibly two more, UNCc doesn’t have the horses for this game. I’m not saying they haven’t improved or that we aren’t still growing with new schemes, but I think that Vegas spread will be pretty close to the final differential.

I feel bad for his injury and wish him well, but the concern of how his injury affects the offense should be zero. App has, effectively, the same running back room, minus Jalin, as last season. Harrington has shown improved burst and physicality, Marcus Williams Jr. appears to be better suited for this offense as a downhill runner, and then you have Evans who is a swiss army knife of sorts. Peoples wasn't really on the field enough last season to make a judgement on his injuries negative affect on the team. Would he have been helpful? Most likely. But based on what App has done previously, with virtually the same backs, I think everything is going to be fine.

As for Charlotte, their fans seem quite excited and confident after their win last Thursday. I'm not sure if it's simply them having a new coach and getting a win, regardless of who they played, that gives them that confidence or if there is something they know that we don't. They claim that many of their defensive starters didn't suit up against GWU to be rested? Thus they gave up 21 points on defense (7 on special teams).

[AppSt94]

For the love of God and all things holy, can we please ban the Transitive Property logic from YC?

Transitive property doesn't work in football, but I was proven correct. Gardner Webb hasn't improved from last season which saw App win 72-7 and ETSU beat them 45-0. Charlotte just gave up 28 points to the Runnin' Bulldogs of Boiling Springs.

Ultimately, the only thing you have to go on, with minimal coaches film to study match-ups, is common opponents and since we are in Week 2 we don't have much to go on as of yet. I assume that the Charlotte game will go much the same way it did last season. So long as Roof cranks up the defensive pressures, allows the corners to press receivers from time to time, and the defensive line holds up, App should win this going away. That's not to say there will be no effort. We assume effort is equal on both sides of the equation.

Just stop. Teams match up differently with each other. Why should what Gardner Webb do have any any predicated outcome on this week? Coaches get paid to coach and correct mistakes. Just because GW returned a kickoff for a TD does not mean you can pencil in one for Evans. Maybe the scheme was sound and it was one missed assignment. Coaches can correct it and move on.

As to your comment on common opponent, we don’t play GW and Charlotte doesn’t play ETSU. So where is the commonality?

[asu7]

This will be Charlotte’s Super Bowl. All bets are off.

We have to punch them in the face early. If they come out on fire and we come out vanilla then I think we might be in trouble. We tend to come out vanilla at times and I think we can’t do that this weekend.

[hapapp]

For those losing sleep against Charlotte, I ask you, “What do they have this year that they didn’t have last year?”

And, you need to watch some of their GW game last week to be able to assess both App and UNCC before you get a constricted sphincter.

I guarantee we were playing base everything so you will see a more aggressive App team this week for sure.

A new coach.

[NavyApp]

This will be Charlotte’s Super Bowl. All bets are off.

We have to punch them in the face early. If they come out on fire and we come out vanilla then I think we might be in trouble. We tend to come out vanilla at times and I think we can’t do that this weekend.

It was their Super Bowl last year too and in their house and how'd that work out? I'm not saying they can't beat us but I am saying they should not and it should not be close. Facts are facts; we are more talented across the board, our guys have played in bigger games. Again anything could happen but we SHOULD win convincingly.

[asu7]

This will be Charlotte’s Super Bowl. All bets are off.

We have to punch them in the face early. If they come out on fire and we come out vanilla then I think we might be in trouble. We tend to come out vanilla at times and I think we can’t do that this weekend.

It was their Super Bowl last year too and in their house and how'd that work out? I'm not saying they can't beat us but I am saying they should not and it should not be close. Facts are facts; we are more talented across the board, our guys have played in bigger games. Again anything could happen but we SHOULD win convincingly.

I agree wholeheartedly we should win by 3 scores. I hope we do. I hate them. It should be over after the 3rd qtr.

[NWA49]

Whats up Appies?

Looking forward to making the trip up to Boone this weekend. Staying at a buddies place up in Crumpler and rolling into Boone early Saturday with the Normbulance to get a good parking spot. I will have somewhere between 30-60 people tailgating with me so should be a good time. My wife, a Charlotte alum, grew up in Boone so she is looking forward to seeing some old friends and hanging out up there too. Anyone walking by the ambulance please stop and say hello - will be hard to miss us off Howard st.

As for the game - I am expecting a closer game than last year, but still a App win. The entire mentality of our team has changed with the coaching change, that alone will be a big shift. Still have to have the horses though and right now we just don't. Our starters I think will play well against the App starters, but we just don't have quality depth and that is going to hurt us when each team goes to their bench - it was noticeable last week. GW game for us had some good things and places to work on - mostly some drops and special teams play - to overcome the talent we have to play mistake free ball. Since last year we have added some significant upgrades through transfers, so that will help some. We need to start Reynolds, but coaching staff wants Kean and his downfield passing to play some - but his taking care of the ball is questionable. We shall see. An App win with a score like 35-14 would make sense to me.

Won't be our superbowl - that happens in Clemson in a few weeks

With that said, us beating ya'll isnt as big an upset as ya'll beating Michigan and that happened, so gotta go play the game. Any given Saturday....

Good luck and see ya'll saturday!

[ericsaid]

For the love of God and all things holy, can we please ban the Transitive Property logic from YC?

Transitive property doesn't work in football, but I was proven correct. Gardner Webb hasn't improved from last season which saw App win 72-7 and ETSU beat them 45-0. Charlotte just gave up 28 points to the Runnin' Bulldogs of Boiling Springs.

Ultimately, the only thing you have to go on, with minimal coaches film to study match-ups, is common opponents and since we are in Week 2 we don't have much to go on as of yet. I assume that the Charlotte game will go much the same way it did last season. So long as Roof cranks up the defensive pressures, allows the corners to press receivers from time to time, and the defensive line holds up, App should win this going away. That's not to say there will be no effort. We assume effort is equal on both sides of the equation.

Just stop. Teams match up differently with each other. Why should what Gardner Webb do have any any predicated outcome on this week? Coaches get paid to coach and correct mistakes. Just because GW returned a kickoff for a TD does not mean you can pencil in one for Evans. Maybe the scheme was sound and it was one missed assignment. Coaches can correct it and move on.

As to your comment on common opponent, we don’t play GW and Charlotte doesn’t play ETSU. So where is the commonality?

You can look to last season, because that's all we have to go on. Charlotte has new coaching, yes. But ETSU and Gardner Webb remain relatively unchanged, and that score was 45-0 in ETSU's favor. Now we see Gardner Webb, much the same as last year, come out and drop 28 on Charlotte, forcing 3 interceptions in the process. They also scored a special teams touchdown. One could make an edumucated guess that Charlotte and ETSU aren't that far apart, at this point. I got the feeling watching the Charlotte - GWU game last night, as I do during the week, that Charlotte may be given a line of 8 points or so, at home, against ETSU, and may struggle to cover it. Their run defense is suspect, their QB play is relatively unchanged, and their special teams are lacking, still.

Many of the same issues we saw last season I still see in their team.

As for the bolded section, I never made an assumption of App scoring on special teams because GWU did. It's part of a trend that you see when you watch games. If Charlotte has trouble busting the wedge and maintaining lane integrity on kickoff, consistently, it's obviously a problem. Considering App has a 4.3 guy returning kicks, you could surmise that App may have an advantage to be gained there. But I didn't make that assumption so I'm not sure where that's coming from.

Based on your logic, I'm not sure why we discuss the game at all? As I said, without coaches film and time to sit down and study (because no one here gets paid to do that, really) the games, all we have to go on is the limited exposure we have to the other side. You can assume match-ups based on what you see in one week, but it may not be what you see in the next week. GWU didn't try to throw the ball much so not a lot can be surmised there. I did see that they gave up 4.5 yards per carry to the GWU offense suggesting that GWU got quite a bit of push and the running backs were able to make some plays. They weren't as good in pass protection but they generated lanes running. This is surprising given it's a 3rd tier FCS team.

[ericsaid]

For those losing sleep against Charlotte, I ask you, “What do they have this year that they didn’t have last year?”

And, you need to watch some of their GW game last week to be able to assess both App and UNCC before you get a constricted sphincter.

I guarantee we were playing base everything so you will see a more aggressive App team this week for sure.

A new coach.

Go watch the GWU game. ESPN+ if you have it. There wasn't much there, to me, that showed a lot of improvement. I suspect most of their improvement will be from Year 1 to Year 2 of Healy and not Week 1 to Week 2.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Money line is set at about -110. I wouldn't mind giving that up to win $100.

[asucrutch23]

Money line is set at about -110. I wouldn't mind giving that up to win $100.

That is the juice on the (currently) 22 point spread (bet $110 to win $100).

The moneyline is currently App State -1750 just to win the game (no spread). In that case you must bet $1,750 just to win $100.

[NWA49]

QB play is better this year than last - Chris Reynolds was playing in one of his first games, experience counts
Defense - We shall see, but at the end of last season the D was not the same D you guys faced
14 of GW points came off the ST return and an insanely terrible INT thrown from shadow of our own goal posts and the fourth TD was a garbage time - so yeas they put 4 TDs on the board, but only one of those was what I consider earned and that one was only a 38 yrd drive after an INT
Their longest drive was 58 yards.
New coaching staffs on each side also make this an interesting an unknown....

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Beat ETSU!!!

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

Money line is set at about -110. I wouldn't mind giving that up to win $100.

That is the juice on the (currently) 22 point spread (bet $110 to win $100).

The moneyline is currently App State -1750 just to win the game (no spread). In that case you must bet $1,750 just to win $100.

That makes more sense. I was looking at it the wrong way. Truthfully when I saw -110 I was mad that they thought it would be that close. I will hold on to my money this week.