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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:19 pm

NewApp wrote:
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5'9"as I recall.
He was listed at 5'9'', but he wasn't quite that tall. I'm 5'10" and he was at least 1 to 1 and 1/2 inches shorter than me.
5’8”



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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:39 pm

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Do you think had we made a bowl that year App would have moved with ECU when they asked that we stay in I-A football and move out of the SoCon.

I have had stories the Peach Bowl had on on their radar and ECU wanted us to move out of the SoCon when they did at the start of the IA/IAA split that the SoCon fought for a few years.
ECU begged App to stay with them. Most thought we should have at the time. I believe it all worked out but it would be nice to see where we would be had we gone with them.
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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:53 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:39 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:57 am
Do you think had we made a bowl that year App would have moved with ECU when they asked that we stay in I-A football and move out of the SoCon.

I have had stories the Peach Bowl had on on their radar and ECU wanted us to move out of the SoCon when they did at the start of the IA/IAA split that the SoCon fought for a few years.
ECU begged App to move up with them. Most thought we should have at the time. I believe it all worked out but it would be nice to see where we would be had we gone with them.
ECU didn't move up. App moved down.



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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:03 am

TheMoody1 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:53 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:39 pm
McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:57 am
Do you think had we made a bowl that year App would have moved with ECU when they asked that we stay in I-A football and move out of the SoCon.

I have had stories the Peach Bowl had on on their radar and ECU wanted us to move out of the SoCon when they did at the start of the IA/IAA split that the SoCon fought for a few years.
ECU begged App to move up with them. Most thought we should have at the time. I believe it all worked out but it would be nice to see where we would be had we gone with them.
ECU didn't move up. App moved down.
Technically yes. I guess I worded it that way because when the division split we went one way and they went another but yes we moved down to I-AA. The funny thing is most, from what I was told, wanted to go with ECU and thought it was nuts. Then after a long time in I-AA many thought we should never move up because they feared we could not succeed. My how times have changed.



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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by Yosef84 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:34 am

Not trying to pick nits but the SoCon didn't actually move to I-AA when it was first created. The NCAA split DI football to create I-AA in 1978 which generally coincides with ECU leaving the SoCon but the SoCon didn't move "down" to I-AA until 1981.



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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by ah59396 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:37 am

Can someone alive during this period give me some context to this game?

How big of an “upset” was this? My understanding is USC was independent at this time, between eras of ACC and now SEC football. What would this win be equitable to today? Still FCS team beating an FBS team?

Obviously the entire dynamic of college football has changed dramatically since 75, but I’m just curious.


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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:28 pm

It was big. It was big and this was in the days before Appalachian was big. Small stadium and a student body of less than 11,000.



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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by asu66 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:09 pm

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I was there in '75. Moondog Davis was my pal. If I remember correctly, Joe was pre-season All-American punter and started lifting too many weights or something that changed his rhythm and he had a "down" season punting that year.

Then along came Abernathy.
There was a lot more to JP's punting numbers falloff than *weightlifting* unless we loosely re-define that term. I'll just leave it that football wasn't always among Joe's top priorities.


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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:19 pm

Yosef84 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:34 am
Not trying to pick nits but the SoCon didn't actually move to I-AA when it was first created. The NCAA split DI football to create I-AA in 1978 which generally coincides with ECU leaving the SoCon but the SoCon didn't move "down" to I-AA until 1981.
Hence why I wrote “SoCon fought for a few years.”

SoCon, Southland, and Ivy al put up a good fight for 3 years.


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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by appstate77 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:30 pm

It was an upset but within the context of two significant wins early on against ECU and WFU (I was at both games!) It was thought App could win but probably would not. Sounds a bit......familiar.



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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by JMappfan5 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:00 am

ah59396 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:37 am
Can someone alive during this period give me some context to this game?

How big of an “upset” was this? My understanding is USC was independent at this time, between eras of ACC and now SEC football. What would this win be equitable to today? Still FCS team beating an FBS team?

Obviously the entire dynamic of college football has changed dramatically since 75, but I’m just curious.
That win was as BIG as our win at UNC. We were just a few years removed from playing in the NAIA. They had beaten Baylor which was a TOP 20 team. The win brought a lot of positive publicity to our "little" school. Also boosted the SoCon's rep!!! Lots of excitement on campus. After the game, a long-time Gamecock supporter bought 6 of us our first of many rounds! He stated that ours fans/students represented their school well and we deserved the win. Now let's do it again!!!



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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by scatman77 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:54 pm

Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:14 pm
I was there in '75. Moondog Davis was my pal. If I remember correctly, Joe was pre-season All-American punter and started lifting too many weights or something that changed his rhythm and he had a "down" season punting that year.

Then along came Abernathy.
I never knew he was Moondog. We always called him "Garo" after Garo Yapremian with the Dolphins: soccer style and his name was Gary ergo, Garo. David Abernathy (his dad, same name, was an all-conference player also) could boot the ball! Square-toed shoe and straight ahead. He'd split the uprights in practice when we work on KO's and KO returns.


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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by scatman77 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:57 pm

asu66 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:09 pm
Cro-Magnon App wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:14 pm
I was there in '75. Moondog Davis was my pal. If I remember correctly, Joe was pre-season All-American punter and started lifting too many weights or something that changed his rhythm and he had a "down" season punting that year.

Then along came Abernathy.
There was a lot more to JP's punting numbers falloff than *weightlifting* unless we loosely re-define that term. I'll just leave it that football wasn't always among Joe's top priorities.
If I may Joe got into analyzing his form and motion and started thinking too much, rather than just lining up and punting. FYI for others here: Joe's first collegiate punt was a school record 70 yarder.


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Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:00 pm

If memory serves me correct, we now officially hold a 2-1 advantage in our series/history with South Carolina.



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Unread post by scatman77 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:04 pm

WataugaMan wrote:
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If memory serves me correct, we now officially hold a 2-1 advantage in our series/history with South Carolina.
I think it's 2-2. I seem to remember we lost to them earlier, won in '75, lost again the next year, then the win Saturday. I'm not certain but this seems to stick out in my mind.


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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:20 pm

Winsipedia has us plaing 10 times (not updated for yesterday.) According to this website we will be 2-8.

http://www.winsipedia.com/appalachian-s ... h-carolina

appstatesports.com only goes back to 85 for some reason but has this as the 4th game since then. 1-3 in that time span.

https://appstatesports.com/sports/footb ... rolina/350


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Re: ASU/USC history for those who weren't born in 1975

Unread post by appfanz » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:10 pm

I know we lost to them in ‘73, ‘74, ‘76, ‘77, and ‘88. Won in ‘75 and last night.



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