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UNC Charlotte's football program is on the up and up. They will be a power to be reckoned with on the field and in recruiting in the Charlotte market.
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No they won’tNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:27 amUNC Charlotte's football program is on the up and up. They will be a power to be reckoned with on the field and in recruiting in the Charlotte market.
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Opinion, until proven with facts...
Rumor has it Coach Dale Jones inspired the App version in the mid-90s, reminiscent of his time at Tennessee.
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Sources? Erk brought GATA to Southern in the early 80s when he left UGA to start the program. That’s a FACT. Uniforms and school busses are a hat tip to our days when we didn’t have two pennies to rub and even had to use tape for the stripes on our helmet and the county donated the busses. Also, we have had a raptor rehabilitation center on campus for years so why not let a Bald Eagle that wouldn’t survive in the wild stretch his wings on Saturday some? Other programs may have live mascots as well and less dressed up uni’s like we do but I would say our traditions came about organically.Gonzo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pmThe drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pmGATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
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Unpopular opinions to trigger young and old alike:
1. We should have a marketing task force similar to NBA and MLS teams who help build attendance (call former season ticket holders, better deals for season tickets, increase student yosef club and fraternity involvement). We need to average 30k per game.
2. White Block A on black helmets 10 of 12 games. Branding matters, we arnt oregon. You wont see Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame change it up. Branding is sooooo important.
3. Talking about Ice and concession food is weak. Who eats that much? It's about the game.
4. Trophy room should be open to all fans, not the privileged. Some our fans dont know how historically amazing we are. Showcasing that grows Pride in more people.
5. Band on the east side.
6. Stop wishing for a regional conference with ODU, ECU, Charlotte, ect. Think bigger, yet enjoy where we are for now.
7. Host an annual meeting where we educate App State fans on recruiting rankings. They dont know the formulas and it gets so old hearing the confusion every year.
8. Take better care of older fans. Boone and KBS is tough to navigate. Have people hired to escort older or disabled fans. We want them there too.
1. We should have a marketing task force similar to NBA and MLS teams who help build attendance (call former season ticket holders, better deals for season tickets, increase student yosef club and fraternity involvement). We need to average 30k per game.
2. White Block A on black helmets 10 of 12 games. Branding matters, we arnt oregon. You wont see Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame change it up. Branding is sooooo important.
3. Talking about Ice and concession food is weak. Who eats that much? It's about the game.
4. Trophy room should be open to all fans, not the privileged. Some our fans dont know how historically amazing we are. Showcasing that grows Pride in more people.
5. Band on the east side.
6. Stop wishing for a regional conference with ODU, ECU, Charlotte, ect. Think bigger, yet enjoy where we are for now.
7. Host an annual meeting where we educate App State fans on recruiting rankings. They dont know the formulas and it gets so old hearing the confusion every year.
8. Take better care of older fans. Boone and KBS is tough to navigate. Have people hired to escort older or disabled fans. We want them there too.
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Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.Gonzo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pmThe drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pmGATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
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The concourse area of Kid Brewer is well designed and the concession layout could not be any more efficiently planned. Also, the hot chocolate is amazing!
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"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 amOur traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.Gonzo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pmThe drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pmGATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."
I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
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What are they going to do and is this for sure going to happen this offseason? I feel like the hill can be utilized so much better, kind of like Missouri hill (hate to say it) where it's closer to the field and raised up a bit and goes blends in smoothly with the rest of the stadium. Clemson as well does a solid job with their hill. SMU as well. Other than getting stuck to stand or sit over there when it's rainy and muddy, which isn't ideal, it just felt too far away from the action. I was never a fan of it.CLTneers wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:55 pmDefinitely agree with ya on the hill, but sounds like they are going to improve upon it a lot in the off-season (hopefully they do bc that's where I'll be sitting in 2020NashvilleNeer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:31 pmI don't know if it's unpopular by this board, but these are unpopular with a few of my friends:
- I hate the gold pants & helmets (actually more yellow than gold)
- I've never enjoyed sitting on the hill. Sorry, but i don't like grass stains or mud stains on my pants.
- Taylor Lamb was average and held us back from winning more games.
- The Yosef logo should be used less.)
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Definitely agree with ya on the hill, but sounds like they are going to improve upon it a lot in the off-season (hopefully they do bc that's where I'll be sitting in 2020
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What are they going to do and is this for sure going to happen this offseason? I feel like the hill can be utilized so much better, kind of like Missouri hill (hate to say it) where it's closer to the field and raised up a bit and goes blends in smoothly with the rest of the stadium. Clemson as well does a solid job with their hill. SMU as well. Other than getting stuck to stand or sit over there when it's rainy and muddy, which isn't ideal, it just felt too far away from the action. I was never a fan of it.
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From what DG has been saying: it will be closer to the field (unsure by how much, but at least to the black 9-square box), will make the grade less steep so it is easier to maneuver (and safer), and they are going to expand the walkway behind the scoreboard.

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What are they going to do and is this for sure going to happen this offseason? I feel like the hill can be utilized so much better, kind of like Missouri hill (hate to say it) where it's closer to the field and raised up a bit and goes blends in smoothly with the rest of the stadium. Clemson as well does a solid job with their hill. SMU as well. Other than getting stuck to stand or sit over there when it's rainy and muddy, which isn't ideal, it just felt too far away from the action. I was never a fan of it.
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From what DG has been saying: it will be closer to the field (unsure by how much, but at least to the black 9-square box), will make the grade less steep so it is easier to maneuver (and safer), and they are going to expand the walkway behind the scoreboard.
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I'm actually in agreement with this one. I love the memory of the Michigan game, but I have gotten to the point that I cringe every time they mention it during a game, especially when it's part of the opening introduction of the team. Saying "this is the team that beat Michigan" just isn't accurate anymore. With all due respect, the oldest player on our current roster was probably about 10 when that game was played. We've accomplished a lot since then and I'd like to have more emphasis on our FBS accomplishments. The Michigan game is great for historical retrospectives, but we need to let it rest.
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We also need a class for students (could also add some videos for fans that are no longer students) on App State sports tradition (mostly football). Almost every home game this year you heard "APP. STATE." chant while we were on offense, so annoying.AppSt12 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:24 amUnpopular opinions to trigger young and old alike:
1. We should have a marketing task force similar to NBA and MLS teams who help build attendance (call former season ticket holders, better deals for season tickets, increase student yosef club and fraternity involvement). We need to average 30k per game.
2. White Block A on black helmets 10 of 12 games. Branding matters, we arnt oregon. You wont see Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame change it up. Branding is sooooo important.
3. Talking about Ice and concession food is weak. Who eats that much? It's about the game.
4. Trophy room should be open to all fans, not the privileged. Some our fans dont know how historically amazing we are. Showcasing that grows Pride in more people.
5. Band on the east side.
6. Stop wishing for a regional conference with ODU, ECU, Charlotte, ect. Think bigger, yet enjoy where we are for now.
7. Host an annual meeting where we educate App State fans on recruiting rankings. They dont know the formulas and it gets so old hearing the confusion every year.
8. Take better care of older fans. Boone and KBS is tough to navigate. Have people hired to escort older or disabled fans. We want them there too.
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Think I’m alright here palNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 amOur traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.Gonzo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pmThe drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pmGATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."
I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force
Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.
Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
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Lots of good bad takes here, but this is my favorite. Branding DOES matter - and the brand we’ve worn for our entire FBS existence is the black A.
Also the implication that while we aren’t Oregon, we’re somehow more comparable to Clemson, Notre Dame and Bama.
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You said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 amThink I’m alright here palNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 amOur traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.Gonzo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pmThe drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pm
GATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."
I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force
Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.
Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
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The justification he used to argue it wasn't stolen was that it wasn't done illegally. Wow.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:56 amYou said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 amThink I’m alright here palNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 amOur traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.
"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."
I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force
Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.
Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
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I never said it was taken from UGA. I said Erk brought it with him from UGA. He came up with it by rearranging GTAA during the GT vs UGA game one year. GTAA stood for Georgia tech athletic association and he switched them around and told everyone it stood for Get after Their Asses. Given that he was the one that created it and started our program and used it as a team mantra before we ever played a game I would hardly say it’s stolen.
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Please outline clearly where is said that. WowChaz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:07 amThe justification he used to argue it wasn't stolen was that it wasn't done illegally. Wow.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:56 amYou said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 amThink I’m alright here palNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 am
Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.
"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."
I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force
Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.
Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
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"Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means."StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 amPlease outline clearly where is said that. WowChaz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:07 amThe justification he used to argue it wasn't stolen was that it wasn't done illegally. Wow.NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:56 amYou said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.StatesboroBluesman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 amThink I’m alright here palNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am
"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."
"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."
I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force
Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.
Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?