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Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
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With DE leaving, I really wish APP would sign Kujuan Pryor from Burns High School in Lawndale. He graduates in May and from what I have heard has not had a ton of offers due to being a bit on the small side. But this kid is special. Best High School RB I have seen. During the 2A playoffs this year He rushed for 431 yards against Hibriten. The kid is lightening fast and has moves.
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Well, I was told I'm crazy on this and others said we would have recruited a RB. I was told that he is telling people he is staying. I had 2 media members around App State tell me that away from this board. I kept hearing from the NFL people that he is going pro. Agents kept saying to the people I talked to that they were telling him to go. I hope everyone sees now that asking players and coaches stuff like this is a waste of time. They will not tell the truth. I know of examples of cases where players claim they will make the decision after the final game but they already picked an agent and told the coaches they are gone before fall camp starts.appstatealum wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:26 pmSurprised. He talked about it all year, but those close to him said he was just feeling things out. I guess he liked what he heard.
I'm told he decided to go pro a few weeks ago but wanted agent feedback and to see what NFL said. Every agent told him to go early. This is what I hate about the agent business. If Evans went undrafted and did not make the team it does not matter to them. They have next year to get it right but Evans will not. The NFL made a huge mistake but not giving a full round 1-7 or PFA grade to players. When they did that agents are now telling players well they said stay in school but you could go in 3rd or 4th round so don't take that too serious. The reality is most players are going 1-3 rounds later than they think they will.
One fact I know here. The NFL tells players 1st, 2nd, or stay in school. I don't know the exact average grade given but I do know he was told to stay in school.
Here are the good and bad on Evans.
Scout feedback I got was that if he stayed he would go in the 3rd or 2nd round with another good year in 2020. I'm hearing 5th round with a shot to go in round 4. If he somehow did not test as well as expected or got hurt then he could slide to round 5. He will definitely make a 53 man roster but I just think a player should be a high pick before they go pro early. I'm told that Gaither likely would have gone 4th or 5th round last year but he stayed in school and never thought to leave early.
Remember when I said last year that Duck made an epic mistake? Evans is not making an epic mistake but he is listening to the wrong people. He could have benefited from another year and I think him leaving early actually hurts us some for next year more than losing Gaither because you need more depth at RB. With that said, he will get drafted and he will make a roster. If just making a team and sitting on the bench or only playing special teams as a rookie is fine with a player then he will be fine. Hopefully he goes to a team who he starts out 2nd or 3rd string and does not play a lot until late in rookie deal so the tread is not worn off before he comes into a big pay day.
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Todd,ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pmI know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?
Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.
Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.
Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
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Thanks for sharing. Brought back some great memories!Appstate88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:44 pmJMappfan5 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:36 pmDid you ever see John Settles? Good luck D Evans and make us proud in the NFL!!!ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pmI know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
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He is not even close to as athletically gifted as our current backs but he is the best runner we ever had. Settle was a special player. He was smart, tough, ran hard, had very good vision, and was fast enough. You don't need the elite speed of Evans to be a great runner. Emmit Smith never ran 4.4s. I hope Evans learns more moves and how to use his heads to shed tackles. You can't just use speed in the NFL if you want to be more than a backup or situational guy. Have to make people miss and break tackles. Settle was so good at keeping people off of him.JMappfan5 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:14 pmThanks for sharing. Brought back some great memories!Appstate88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:44 pmJMappfan5 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:36 pmDid you ever see John Settles? Good luck D Evans and make us proud in the NFL!!!ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pmI know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:11 pmTodd,ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pmI know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?
Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.
Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.
Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
Man, that is a joke.
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Well let's look at the 4-deepNewApp wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:20 pmAppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:11 pmTodd,ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pmI know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?
Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.
Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.
Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
Man, that is a joke.
1. Evans- No way he beats him out.
2. Marcus Williams- Underrated runner. He will be a 1,000 yard rusher at the FBS level next year if we give him enough carries.
3. Cam Peoples- We see his talent. If he comes back healthy our coaching staff will tell you he is a better athlete and player than Richardson.
4. Harrington- Blazing fast. We see he can pick up huge yards. He just has to stay healthy.
5. Raykwon Anderson is next. Look at how good he is. He can fly and is explosive.
The reason I say Richardson would not crack the 4-deep is because he is not faster or more athletic than those guys. I was being nice too. I could have said he would not be 5th string now. He was a very good runner and super tough but we are at a different level. You don't win at the FBS level with super slow guys. How do you beat SC and UNC? With speed. You have to be fast. Richardson was about a 4.65 guy. He is nowhere near as fast and if he played now he may work his way up to 3rd string but he would not play key moments. He would be like Clark. Richardson was great for his era but he would would be about 4th or 5th string today. He still deserves to be in our HOF because of his career though. Richardson had one of the top 2 careers of any App State RB but as far as talent, speed, and ability he would be about 5th string today.
You guys have to stop boxscore scouting and looking at the all-time stats in App history because that just means they were a good college player. The best players play in the NFL and the NFL never thought Richardson was good enough to even warrant a look. If Peoples, Anderson, Williams, and Harrington all stay healthy each one of them will get a shot in the pros, unlike Richardson.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
Unfortunately, there are a lot of "snakes" around the program right now giving these players bad advice. One of those "snakes" got to Duck last year and he had been honest about wishing he had not left early. The agent thst lured him out is long gone and Duck was lucky enough to get hooked up with another guy that had his best interest at heart and worked out the CFL deal for him.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:01 pmWell, I was told by AppSt94 that I'm crazy on this and the coaches aren't recruiting a RB so he is not going. I was told that he is telling people he is staying. I had 2 media members around App State tell me that away from this board. I kept hearing from the NFL people that he is going pro. Agents kept saying to the people I talked to that they were telling him to go. I hope everyone sees now that asking players and coaches stuff like this is a waste of time. They will not tell the truth. I know of examples of cases where players claim they will make the decision after the final game but they already picked an agent and told the coaches they are gone before fall camp starts.appstatealum wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:26 pmSurprised. He talked about it all year, but those close to him said he was just feeling things out. I guess he liked what he heard.
I'm told he decided to go pro a few weeks ago but wanted agent feedback and to see what NFL said. Every agent told him to go early. This is what I hate about the agent business. If Evans went undrafted and did not make the team it does not matter to them. They have next year to get it right but Evans will not. The NFL made a huge mistake but not giving a full round 1-7 or PFA grade to players. When they did that agents are now telling players well they said stay in school but you could go in 3rd or 4th round so don't take that too serious. The reality is most players are going 1-3 rounds later than they think they will.
One fact I know here. The NFL tells players 1st, 2nd, or stay in school. I don't know the exact average grade given but I do know he was told to stay in school.
Here are the good and bad on Evans.
Scout feedback I got was that if he stayed he would go in the 3rd or 2nd round with another good year in 2020. I'm hearing 5th round with a shot to go in round 4. If he somehow did not test as well as expected or got hurt then he could slide to round 5. He will definitely make a 53 man roster but I just think a player should be a high pick before they go pro early. I'm told that Gaither likely would have gone 4th or 5th round last year but he stayed in school and never thought to leave early.
Remember when I said last year that Duck made an epic mistake? Evans is not making an epic mistake but he is listening to the wrong people. He could have benefited from another year and I think him leaving early actually hurts us some for next year more than losing Gaither because you need more depth at RB. With that said, he will get drafted and he will make a roster. If just making a team and sitting on the bench or only playing special teams as a rookie is fine with a player then he will be fine. Hopefully he goes to a team who he starts out 2nd or 3rd string and does not play a lot until late in rookie deal so the tread is not worn off before he comes into a big pay day.
For Evans' sake, I hope he is making arrangements to finish his degree (if not already complete) and is prepared to work extremely hard to make it at the next level. Some of these agents just won't prepare these guys the way they should, they are just looking for a quick payday.
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Stop w the quick payday stuff. Ducks agent got nothing. Duck was as ready as he could be. Evans is Sunday ready.
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The thing I loved about KRich is he got every inch he could every time he touched the ball. If we needed 2 yards-he got 3 - if we needed 2 inches-he got 3 inches - to say he wouldn't break the 4-deep now is somewhat questionable - just because he never played at a higher level is not a disqualifier for someone like him - he would absolutely play in today's game
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
His agent was Christopher Ellison at pro day. I don't know the guy who reps Duck now. Ellison is not very good. One agent who had been a problem was Robert Walker because he was an App grad and had a great relationship with some of the previous staff. He did not sign anyone last year out of college. Kilgore is his only NFL client who is not on a rookie deal that I know of from App now and Kilgore got an awful deal.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:37 pmUnfortunately, there are a lot of "snakes" around the program right now giving these players bad advice. One of those "snakes" got to Duck last year and he had been honest about wishing he had not left early. The agent thst lured him out is long gone and Duck was lucky enough to get hooked up with another guy that had his best interest at heart and worked out the CFL deal for him.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:01 pmWell, I was told by AppSt94 that I'm crazy on this and the coaches aren't recruiting a RB so he is not going. I was told that he is telling people he is staying. I had 2 media members around App State tell me that away from this board. I kept hearing from the NFL people that he is going pro. Agents kept saying to the people I talked to that they were telling him to go. I hope everyone sees now that asking players and coaches stuff like this is a waste of time. They will not tell the truth. I know of examples of cases where players claim they will make the decision after the final game but they already picked an agent and told the coaches they are gone before fall camp starts.appstatealum wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:26 pmSurprised. He talked about it all year, but those close to him said he was just feeling things out. I guess he liked what he heard.
I'm told he decided to go pro a few weeks ago but wanted agent feedback and to see what NFL said. Every agent told him to go early. This is what I hate about the agent business. If Evans went undrafted and did not make the team it does not matter to them. They have next year to get it right but Evans will not. The NFL made a huge mistake but not giving a full round 1-7 or PFA grade to players. When they did that agents are now telling players well they said stay in school but you could go in 3rd or 4th round so don't take that too serious. The reality is most players are going 1-3 rounds later than they think they will.
One fact I know here. The NFL tells players 1st, 2nd, or stay in school. I don't know the exact average grade given but I do know he was told to stay in school.
Here are the good and bad on Evans.
Scout feedback I got was that if he stayed he would go in the 3rd or 2nd round with another good year in 2020. I'm hearing 5th round with a shot to go in round 4. If he somehow did not test as well as expected or got hurt then he could slide to round 5. He will definitely make a 53 man roster but I just think a player should be a high pick before they go pro early. I'm told that Gaither likely would have gone 4th or 5th round last year but he stayed in school and never thought to leave early.
Remember when I said last year that Duck made an epic mistake? Evans is not making an epic mistake but he is listening to the wrong people. He could have benefited from another year and I think him leaving early actually hurts us some for next year more than losing Gaither because you need more depth at RB. With that said, he will get drafted and he will make a roster. If just making a team and sitting on the bench or only playing special teams as a rookie is fine with a player then he will be fine. Hopefully he goes to a team who he starts out 2nd or 3rd string and does not play a lot until late in rookie deal so the tread is not worn off before he comes into a big pay day.
For Evans' sake, I hope he is making arrangements to finish his degree (if not already complete) and is prepared to work extremely hard to make it at the next level. Some of these agents just won't prepare these guys the way they should, they are just looking for a quick payday.
The CFL was a very good move. It is far better than the XFL. I doubt the XFL will be around in 2 years.
Sad to see about Duck. I remember saying when he announced that he would regret it and immediately wish he was on our team once the season started.
I'll be curious to see who Evans signs with. I think he would be happier if he came back though.
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KRich was a natural at finding the right lane and taking it hard. He was small and stout and could move people to get that extra yard after contact.
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Settle played in I-AA and we don't discount him. Coakley is still the greatest App ever and he was before Richardson. I'm judging based on ability. Richardson would be an All-American in FCS now and could play at some G5s for sure but he would not crack the top 2-3 at App now just because of speed alone. Now, I do think when he got in garbage time he would tear teams up like Texas State, Charlotte, South Alabama, etc. but look what Harrington and Anderson do in those moments as well.WVAPPeer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:11 pmThe thing I loved about KRich is he got every inch he could every time he touched the ball. If we needed 2 yards-he got 3 - if we needed 2 inches-he got 3 inches - to say he wouldn't break the 4-deep now is somewhat questionable - just because he never played at a higher level is not a disqualifier for someone like him - he would absolutely play in today's game
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We don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.
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Let’s set the record straight. I didn’t call you crazy. Your statement was at the time, “it is widely known around campus that Darrynton is going Pro at the end of this season. That statement was not correct as he just made the decision recently. As AppStateAlum indicated that DE was exploring the possibility of turning pro and that is reasonable. There was no way to gather the information for DE to make the final decision until after the season was complete so I questioned the manner to which you declared such. Now, if you were to have said, if DE has a good year, he might explore his pro options, then OK. That is a reasonable statement.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:01 pmWell, I was told by AppSt94 that I'm crazy on this and the coaches aren't recruiting a RB so he is not going. I was told that he is telling people he is staying. I had 2 media members around App State tell me that away from this board. I kept hearing from the NFL people that he is going pro. Agents kept saying to the people I talked to that they were telling him to go. I hope everyone sees now that asking players and coaches stuff like this is a waste of time. They will not tell the truth. I know of examples of cases where players claim they will make the decision after the final game but they already picked an agent and told the coaches they are gone before fall camp starts.appstatealum wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:26 pmSurprised. He talked about it all year, but those close to him said he was just feeling things out. I guess he liked what he heard.
I'm told he decided to go pro a few weeks ago but wanted agent feedback and to see what NFL said. Every agent told him to go early. This is what I hate about the agent business. If Evans went undrafted and did not make the team it does not matter to them. They have next year to get it right but Evans will not. The NFL made a huge mistake but not giving a full round 1-7 or PFA grade to players. When they did that agents are now telling players well they said stay in school but you could go in 3rd or 4th round so don't take that too serious. The reality is most players are going 1-3 rounds later than they think they will.
One fact I know here. The NFL tells players 1st, 2nd, or stay in school. I don't know the exact average grade given but I do know he was told to stay in school.
Here are the good and bad on Evans.
Scout feedback I got was that if he stayed he would go in the 3rd or 2nd round with another good year in 2020. I'm hearing 5th round with a shot to go in round 4. If he somehow did not test as well as expected or got hurt then he could slide to round 5. He will definitely make a 53 man roster but I just think a player should be a high pick before they go pro early. I'm told that Gaither likely would have gone 4th or 5th round last year but he stayed in school and never thought to leave early.
Remember when I said last year that Duck made an epic mistake? Evans is not making an epic mistake but he is listening to the wrong people. He could have benefited from another year and I think him leaving early actually hurts us some for next year more than losing Gaither because you need more depth at RB. With that said, he will get drafted and he will make a roster. If just making a team and sitting on the bench or only playing special teams as a rookie is fine with a player then he will be fine. Hopefully he goes to a team who he starts out 2nd or 3rd string and does not play a lot until late in rookie deal so the tread is not worn off before he comes into a big pay day.
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Folks would be surprised how many players publicly say they are exploring their options but behind closed doors are telling people they are going pro. I know you did not call me crazy but some told me that was nuts because Evans is not going anywhere. Evans is hearing 3rd round for sure from all the wrong people right now. They are close but 3rd round is not a guarantee like some are telling him. The general NFL consensus is 4th round with a slight shot at 3rd and a chance he falls to the 5th round.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:30 pmLet’s set the record straight. I didn’t call you crazy. Your statement was at the time, “it is widely known around campus that Darrynton is going Pro at the end of this season. That statement was not correct as he just made the decision recently. As AppStateAlum indicated that DE was exploring the possibility of turning pro and that is reasonable. There was no way to gather the information for DE to make the final decision until after the season was complete so I questioned the manner to which you declared such. Now, if you were to have said, if DE has a good year, he might explore his pro options, then OK. That is a reasonable statement.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:01 pmWell, I was told by AppSt94 that I'm crazy on this and the coaches aren't recruiting a RB so he is not going. I was told that he is telling people he is staying. I had 2 media members around App State tell me that away from this board. I kept hearing from the NFL people that he is going pro. Agents kept saying to the people I talked to that they were telling him to go. I hope everyone sees now that asking players and coaches stuff like this is a waste of time. They will not tell the truth. I know of examples of cases where players claim they will make the decision after the final game but they already picked an agent and told the coaches they are gone before fall camp starts.appstatealum wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:26 pmSurprised. He talked about it all year, but those close to him said he was just feeling things out. I guess he liked what he heard.
I'm told he decided to go pro a few weeks ago but wanted agent feedback and to see what NFL said. Every agent told him to go early. This is what I hate about the agent business. If Evans went undrafted and did not make the team it does not matter to them. They have next year to get it right but Evans will not. The NFL made a huge mistake but not giving a full round 1-7 or PFA grade to players. When they did that agents are now telling players well they said stay in school but you could go in 3rd or 4th round so don't take that too serious. The reality is most players are going 1-3 rounds later than they think they will.
One fact I know here. The NFL tells players 1st, 2nd, or stay in school. I don't know the exact average grade given but I do know he was told to stay in school.
Here are the good and bad on Evans.
Scout feedback I got was that if he stayed he would go in the 3rd or 2nd round with another good year in 2020. I'm hearing 5th round with a shot to go in round 4. If he somehow did not test as well as expected or got hurt then he could slide to round 5. He will definitely make a 53 man roster but I just think a player should be a high pick before they go pro early. I'm told that Gaither likely would have gone 4th or 5th round last year but he stayed in school and never thought to leave early.
Remember when I said last year that Duck made an epic mistake? Evans is not making an epic mistake but he is listening to the wrong people. He could have benefited from another year and I think him leaving early actually hurts us some for next year more than losing Gaither because you need more depth at RB. With that said, he will get drafted and he will make a roster. If just making a team and sitting on the bench or only playing special teams as a rookie is fine with a player then he will be fine. Hopefully he goes to a team who he starts out 2nd or 3rd string and does not play a lot until late in rookie deal so the tread is not worn off before he comes into a big pay day.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
I think KRich's game would translate at both levels. What made him special was, he came into school overweight and worked hard to shed the bad weight and replace it with muscle. He was a bruiser with great vision and balance and had the durability and endurance to keep coming. His biggest issue was his breakaway speed, and at the FBS level, that would be restricting. The reason why Evans shined this year was because he as able to add additional weight and not lose any of his speed.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:19 pmWe don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
I didn't say the agents get paid, but they are looking for quick paydays. They tell these kids they are going in a certain round and then offer them loans and stuff. If it all falls through, they at worst make the kids pay the loan. I've heard too many detailed stories of how these kids are put in bad spots and get terrible advice through the process.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
Honestly, Evans’ breakaway speed is something that few RB entering the draft can replicate.appstatealum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:43 pmI think KRich's game would translate at both levels. What made him special was, he came into school overweight and worked hard to shed the bad weight and replace it with muscle. He was a bruiser with great vision and balance and had the durability and endurance to keep coming. His biggest issue was his breakaway speed, and at the FBS level, that would be restricting. The reason why Evans shined this year was because he as able to add additional weight and not lose any of his speed.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:19 pmWe don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft
And we don't win those titles without Armanti either. He was the best QB in FCS. We also had some great DE combos on defense. Without Hunter and Murrell we don't win one of those titles. AE and the speed of Jackson was the difference against Michigan. As long as you know that while Richardson was extremely important, which he was and I would never argue that, Armanti was the straw that stirred the drink. Can't argue against a two-time Payton winner.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:19 pmWe don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.