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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:36 pm

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Stop w the quick payday stuff. Ducks agent got nothing. Duck was as ready as he could be. Evans is Sunday ready.
I didn't say the agents get paid, but they are looking for quick paydays. They tell these kids they are going in a certain round and then offer them loans and stuff. If it all falls through, they at worst make the kids pay the loan. I've heard too many detailed stories of how these kids are put in bad spots and get terrible advice through the process.
The agent gets big money if the player makes the NFL, which Duck did not. Actually in that case the agent lost his butt in money. He spent money to train him, gave him a stipend, and all sorts of stuff. He was dumb enough to think Duck could make it in the NFL. Duck was not good enough but he could have helped himself with another year. I felt like if he waited one more year he probably makes a NFL PS as a rookie and then ends up in the CFL for 5-10 years.

Loans are killing players. What many agents do is give them a loan and then make the kid sign a contract saying they pay them back 100% for the loan and training if they fire them. So if the agent is bad and the kid is awful then the kid is scared to get a competent agent because he would then owe big money. It really is a bad process and App State has always done a very poor job with the agent process. There are some leaches who have gotten in over the years and I hope Clark does something about it.

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AppSt94 wrote:
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We don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.
I think KRich's game would translate at both levels. What made him special was, he came into school overweight and worked hard to shed the bad weight and replace it with muscle. He was a bruiser with great vision and balance and had the durability and endurance to keep coming. His biggest issue was his breakaway speed, and at the FBS level, that would be restricting. The reason why Evans shined this year was because he as able to add additional weight and not lose any of his speed.
Honestly, Evans’ breakaway speed is something that few RB entering the draft can replicate.
Last year 17 running backs ran a 4.45 or better. I expect Evans to run in the high 4.3 range and only 3 of them did that. Those 4 were Tony Pollard (Memphis), White (FAU) and Love of Stanford. I don't think Love did so at the combine but had run that before. It is very rare. That is why he will make it in the NFL. Richardson was a great FCS RB and would have become a solid guy at a G5 program but with the speed we have at App now he would not crack the 3-deep. Harrington and Anderson can also fly.

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Unread post by InFor6More » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:43 pm

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I know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Todd,

Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?

Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.

Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.

Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
I agree on Cadet’s usage. Why do you think that he was used so poorly? Was it the coaching staff that was having a difficult time transitioning from play calling from a thunder/lightning approach with Edwards and Richardson to where we capitalized on the speed and quick twitch abilities from two players in the backfield or something else? We all know we left at least one national title on the table with all the talent that the 08’ and 09’ teams had.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:08 pm

InFor6More wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:43 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:11 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pm
I know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Todd,

Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?

Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.

Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.

Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
I agree on Cadet’s usage. Why do you think that he was used so poorly? Was it the coaching staff that was having a difficult time transitioning from play calling from a thunder/lightning approach with Edwards and Richardson to where we capitalized on the speed and quick twitch abilities from two players in the backfield or something else? We all know we left at least one national title on the table with all the talent that the 08’ and 09’ teams had.
Cadet had been banged up some but I also think they messed up with DeAndre Presley who should have been a DB but they had to use at QB because they did not feel they had a good one. I agree on 2008 and 2009. Jerry Moore left one on the table. I also think 1995 was a year we should have won it all as well and we just played awful in that home loss to SFA.

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Unread post by appst89 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:16 pm

Stats do not measure heart. I don't care what level we're at, if I needed two yards, I'd put KRich in the backfield and feel good that we're going to get it. If I'm the coach, there is always a place in the rotation for a guy like KRich.

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:24 pm

InFor6More wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:43 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:11 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pm
I know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Todd,

Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?

Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.

Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.

Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
I agree on Cadet’s usage. Why do you think that he was used so poorly? Was it the coaching staff that was having a difficult time transitioning from play calling from a thunder/lightning approach with Edwards and Richardson to where we capitalized on the speed and quick twitch abilities from two players in the backfield or something else? We all know we left at least one national title on the table with all the talent that the 08’ and 09’ teams had.
To be fair, I believe Richmond had 2 DE's that were drafted in the NFL that year they smoked us in the playoffs.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:47 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:24 pm
InFor6More wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:43 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:11 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pm
I know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Todd,

Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?

Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.

Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.

Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
I agree on Cadet’s usage. Why do you think that he was used so poorly? Was it the coaching staff that was having a difficult time transitioning from play calling from a thunder/lightning approach with Edwards and Richardson to where we capitalized on the speed and quick twitch abilities from two players in the backfield or something else? We all know we left at least one national title on the table with all the talent that the 08’ and 09’ teams had.
To be fair, I believe Richmond had 2 DE's that were drafted in the NFL that year they smoked us in the playoffs.
I remember having like 6 turnovers in that game. I don't see any DEs from Richmond drafted that year. They were pretty good but the picks got us big time and were the difference.

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Unread post by HighPointApp » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:20 pm

Cadet had been banged up some but I also think they messed up with DeAndre Presley who should have been a DB but they had to use at QB because they did not feel they had a good one. I agree on 2008 and 2009. Jerry Moore left one on the table. I also think 1995 was a year we should have won it all as well and we just played awful in that home loss to SFA.
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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:29 pm

HighPointApp wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:20 pm
Cadet had been banged up some but I also think they messed up with DeAndre Presley who should have been a DB but they had to use at QB because they did not feel they had a good one. I agree on 2008 and 2009. Jerry Moore left one on the table. I also think 1995 was a year we should have won it all as well and we just played awful in that home loss to SFA.
I get nauseous every time I think of the SFA game. We came out flat and they punched us in the mouth. Ugly......
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It was indeed awful.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by appstatealum » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:47 pm

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Stats do not measure heart. I don't care what level we're at, if I needed two yards, I'd put KRich in the backfield and feel good that we're going to get it. If I'm the coach, there is always a place in the rotation for a guy like KRich.
Kind of like that #4 for UAB.... He was a beast in short yardage, but clearly couldn't be the every down back. That #4 would dominate the FCS. You just have to have game breaking speed at the FBS level to be an everydown impact.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:52 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:47 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:24 pm
InFor6More wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:43 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:11 pm
ASUTodd wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:26 pm
I know Evans is the man..... but the best "RUNNERS" this school has ever seen are Armanti and Kevin Richardson. Armanti just had some sweet moves and speed... Richardson would flat out run over you, bounce off you, and just make you miss. Plus the line they played behind wasn't near as good as this Oline is. Evans is still the man, and I hope he gets paid! Running backs take a beating in this sport and he has to strike while he is healthy and he is hot. Best of luck to him. Plus if he gets paid I am sure some of that money will make its way back to the school.
Todd,

Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?

Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.

Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.

Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
I agree on Cadet’s usage. Why do you think that he was used so poorly? Was it the coaching staff that was having a difficult time transitioning from play calling from a thunder/lightning approach with Edwards and Richardson to where we capitalized on the speed and quick twitch abilities from two players in the backfield or something else? We all know we left at least one national title on the table with all the talent that the 08’ and 09’ teams had.
To be fair, I believe Richmond had 2 DE's that were drafted in the NFL that year they smoked us in the playoffs.
I remember having like 6 turnovers in that game. I don't see any DEs from Richmond drafted that year. They were pretty good but the picks got us big time and were the difference.
Lawrence Sidbury was actually drafted in the 4th round the following year, my bad. I believe the other guy was projected to be drafted, but was not. Logan perhaps?

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:07 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:52 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:47 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:24 pm
InFor6More wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:43 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:11 pm


Todd,

Why is Richardson the best back we ever had? Because he is the all-time leading rusher? You do realize he played on the best team we had in I-AA/FCS and teams never really focused on him because it was all about Armanti Edwards?

Richardson would not even start or be 2nd or 3rd string on this current team. Richardson did not even get a tryout in the NFL. We had a lot of backs get a chance in the NFL from John Settle, Jimmy Watkins, Travaris Cadet, Rod Chisholm, Jalin Moore, and I can't remember if Marcus Cox got a tryout or not? I want to think he did not though. Kevin was a great worker, hard runner, and very good in our system at the SoCon level but he is nowhere near as good as Settle, Moore, and Evans.

Evans is BY FAR better than Richardson and it is not close. This is another reason I hate to see Evans leave early because I was hoping for another 1400 yards or so because right now there are people who don't know anything but stats who will say so many guys were better than Evans when in reality he, Settle, and Jalin Moore are the best RB starters we had had to date. Cadet was also really good but not used like he should have been. He should have had like 1200 yards his senior year.

Anyone who has covered this team, EVERY NFL scout, and any legit draft analyst at NFL Network or ESPN will back up what I just said. Richardson was a good college player in I-AA/FCS but he would not even crack the 4-deep at App State right now.
I agree on Cadet’s usage. Why do you think that he was used so poorly? Was it the coaching staff that was having a difficult time transitioning from play calling from a thunder/lightning approach with Edwards and Richardson to where we capitalized on the speed and quick twitch abilities from two players in the backfield or something else? We all know we left at least one national title on the table with all the talent that the 08’ and 09’ teams had.
To be fair, I believe Richmond had 2 DE's that were drafted in the NFL that year they smoked us in the playoffs.
I remember having like 6 turnovers in that game. I don't see any DEs from Richmond drafted that year. They were pretty good but the picks got us big time and were the difference.
Lawrence Sidbury was actually drafted in the 4th round the following year, my bad. I believe the other guy was projected to be drafted, but was not. Logan perhaps?
Sidbury was very good. I remember him. They did have two good ends but Edwards' two picks and the 6 or 7 total turnovers I felt is what really did us in.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:19 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:07 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:52 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:47 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:24 pm
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Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:43 pm


I agree on Cadet’s usage. Why do you think that he was used so poorly? Was it the coaching staff that was having a difficult time transitioning from play calling from a thunder/lightning approach with Edwards and Richardson to where we capitalized on the speed and quick twitch abilities from two players in the backfield or something else? We all know we left at least one national title on the table with all the talent that the 08’ and 09’ teams had.
To be fair, I believe Richmond had 2 DE's that were drafted in the NFL that year they smoked us in the playoffs.
I remember having like 6 turnovers in that game. I don't see any DEs from Richmond drafted that year. They were pretty good but the picks got us big time and were the difference.
Lawrence Sidbury was actually drafted in the 4th round the following year, my bad. I believe the other guy was projected to be drafted, but was not. Logan perhaps?
Sidbury was very good. I remember him. They did have two good ends but Edwards' two picks and the 6 or 7 total turnovers I felt is what really did us in.
Elon and their dirty play to take out Armanti's knees is what did us in.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:21 pm

BUTCH1991 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:19 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:07 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
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AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:47 pm
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To be fair, I believe Richmond had 2 DE's that were drafted in the NFL that year they smoked us in the playoffs.
I remember having like 6 turnovers in that game. I don't see any DEs from Richmond drafted that year. They were pretty good but the picks got us big time and were the difference.
Lawrence Sidbury was actually drafted in the 4th round the following year, my bad. I believe the other guy was projected to be drafted, but was not. Logan perhaps?
Sidbury was very good. I remember him. They did have two good ends but Edwards' two picks and the 6 or 7 total turnovers I felt is what really did us in.
Elon and their dirty play to take out Armanti's knees is what did us in.
Scott Riddle and that group was a bunch of dirty players for sure.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by Appaholic01 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:51 pm

This kid has had “it” since Day 1. High football IQ, toughness, with big play potential on every play, and has loved AppState. While I would love Darrynton to stay, it’s time for him to get paid. Good luck, #3!

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:26 pm

Appaholic01 wrote:
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This kid has had “it” since Day 1. High football IQ, toughness, with big play potential on every play, and has loved AppState. While I would love Darrynton to stay, it’s time for him to get paid. Good luck, #3!
Here is the issue with going early though. If you aren't a top 100 pick you do risk being so far down the depth chart that you may or may not even be active. Rookies don't get paid that much after the 2nd round so if you aren't getting a big signing bonus you are taking a huge risk. Evans will definitely make a roster but he could have greatly improved and everyone has to know the NFL is a big business and without a degree you are taking a big risk.

A huge issue in the climate today is that almost no player wants to stay on campus and finish degree while they train. They all want to go to Atlanta, Miami, LA, New Jersey, or one of these facilities and have their agent keep them up. Many are taking loans from agents and are being given false info by agents. There are not more than 40 players each year who truly should go pro early. I feel like if you aren't a top 2-3 round pick for sure you should stay. Evans could help himself somewhat to come back but I do wish him well. Hopefully, he will work his butt off and know that his journey is just starting. All he did at App was his resume for his draft stock and does not dictate whether he will make it or not.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by Black Saturday » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:46 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:33 pm
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Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:19 pm
We don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.
And we don't win those titles without Armanti either. He was the best QB in FCS. We also had some great DE combos on defense. Without Hunter and Murrell we don't win one of those titles. AE and the speed of Jackson was the difference against Michigan. As long as you know that while Richardson was extremely important, which he was and I would never argue that, Armanti was the straw that stirred the drink. Can't argue against a two-time Payton winner.
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by NavyApp » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:53 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:26 pm
Appaholic01 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:51 pm
This kid has had “it” since Day 1. High football IQ, toughness, with big play potential on every play, and has loved AppState. While I would love Darrynton to stay, it’s time for him to get paid. Good luck, #3!
Here is the issue with going early though. If you aren't a top 100 pick you do risk being so far down the depth chart that you may or may not even be active. Rookies don't get paid that much after the 2nd round so if you aren't getting a big signing bonus you are taking a huge risk. Evans will definitely make a roster but he could have greatly improved and everyone has to know the NFL is a big business and without a degree you are taking a big risk.

A huge issue in the climate today is that almost no player wants to stay on campus and finish degree while they train. They all want to go to Atlanta, Miami, LA, New Jersey, or one of these facilities and have their agent keep them up. Many are taking loans from agents and are being given false info by agents. There are not more than 40 players each year who truly should go pro early. I feel like if you aren't a top 2-3 round pick for sure you should stay. Evans could help himself somewhat to come back but I do wish him well. Hopefully, he will work his butt off and know that his journey is just starting. All he did at App was his resume for his draft stock and does not dictate whether he will make it or not.
I know it's not a lot when compared with the higher end of NFL salaries, but if Evans makes a 53 man roster (which he most certainly should) the least amount of money he will make next year 480k. As has been said in this very thread; he saw what happened to Jalin last year and how it impacted his draft stock. He has already had one significant leg injury and he plays a position with an extremely short shelf life. He is making the best decision for himself and I am excited for him! I feel like we all know once he gets a chance to show out(most likely on special teams early) he will make things happen, because he is a special player and one of the best to ever Rock the Black and Gold!
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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:09 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:46 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:33 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:19 pm
We don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.
And we don't win those titles without Armanti either. He was the best QB in FCS. We also had some great DE combos on defense. Without Hunter and Murrell we don't win one of those titles. AE and the speed of Jackson was the difference against Michigan. As long as you know that while Richardson was extremely important, which he was and I would never argue that, Armanti was the straw that stirred the drink. Can't argue against a two-time Payton winner.
Bingo, it's a team sport.
It is a team game. The question was the best back. Not taking anything away from Armanti. But he won two NC. Richie Williams won 1. Neither won one without KRich in the backfield.

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Re: Darrynton Evans - Declaring for the 2020 NFL Draft

Unread post by NavyApp » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:28 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:09 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:46 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:33 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:19 pm
We don’t win three straight title without KRich. Period. Armanti did not win one without him. Is he a better back than Moore, Cox, or Evans? Probably not. But he was the most valuable to our success at the FCS level. Next thing you’re going to say is LeBron is better than Jordan.
And we don't win those titles without Armanti either. He was the best QB in FCS. We also had some great DE combos on defense. Without Hunter and Murrell we don't win one of those titles. AE and the speed of Jackson was the difference against Michigan. As long as you know that while Richardson was extremely important, which he was and I would never argue that, Armanti was the straw that stirred the drink. Can't argue against a two-time Payton winner.
Bingo, it's a team sport.
It is a team game. The question was the best back. Not taking anything away from Armanti. But he won two NC. Richie Williams won 1. Neither won one without KRich in the backfield.
Neither one won without Dexter, Hans, Suttle,Holt, Brown, Lynch, Rauch, Speer, Woazeah.

Now I love KRich, always have and always will but your position is a little weird to me. I would think that the losses of Suttle, Holt, and Brown on the OL were bigger than going from KRich to Moore(another underrated RB).
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