“Two car funeral” line goes here.Appsolutely wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 pmA crash test dummy would have been an improvement over Laney, whose lack of vision was condoned by Toot Borkowski. The “red sweater boy” was better than Roachel, but that’s a very low bar to set.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:52 pmCobb only walked on water for very few people. Most did not like him at all.
We are in need of someone to take over the maintenance of the MMB. Yosef has done it for a long time, and we are grateful for all he has done, but life happens and he no longer has the time to devote to its upkeep. If anyone here is interested in helping to keep the board running, please let me know via DM.
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You’re definitely in the know more than me state 1 . I would not know how Cobb was behind the scene. It’s easy to say that the attendance draw was laney with nothing to back it up. I know attendance was immediately better under Cobb. Doug has sailed this ship better than I could have ever imagined in the FBS era.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 pmTalk to people who worked for Cobb. He was difficult to deal with.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 pmI for one loved Cobb other than a bad hire in basketball things were immediately better when he took the helm. Immediately after he was at the helm we had our first 24,000 attendance coastal I believe. Doug has done everything that was needed. That’s neither good or bad.
Cobb did do some good things but he followed the worst AD in the history of D1. When you refer to the attendance rising in Cobb's first game you do know that had nothing to do with Cobb and was 100% to do with Laney? He ran so many people off and had held us down so long that our fans literally celebrated his resigning and so many immediately re-joined Yosef Club and decided to get excited and show up, donate, and support our program.
I personally know many, including people like Dexter Coakley, who vowed to not come back or donate until the day Laney was gone and they literally called within the 24-48 hours of his resignation. There was a tangible excitement in the stadium because of it. There were so many former players who jumped on the train because he left.
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I second that. Bork was awful as well.Appsolutely wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 pmA crash test dummy would have been an improvement over Laney, whose lack of vision was condoned by Toot Borkowski. The “red sweater boy” was better than Roachel, but that’s a very low bar to set.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:52 pmCobb only walked on water for very few people. Most did not like him at all.
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The proof to back it up is call the season ticket people who were there and Gerald Adams before he passed on at the impact. He flat out told me and others I was with that Laney leaving was a huge boom to the Yosef Club. Ask anyone in the know and they will tell you with 100% fact that Laney leaving was a big reason for it. I saw many at that CCU game who flat said they were back because Laney was gone. We had not won the NC yet and CCU was not a big draw for us because they were a new program. Ask anyone who worked at App or was in the know and they will 100% back up what I said. I am sure there are 50 people who post on this board who know and would back it up. Laney's resignation caused the biggest increase in Yosef Club giving in our history.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:17 pmYou’re definitely in the know more than me state 1 . I would not know how Cobb was behind the scene. It’s easy to say that the attendance draw was laney with nothing to back it up. I know attendance was immediately better under Cobb. Doug has sailed this ship better than I could have ever imagined in the FBS era.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 pmTalk to people who worked for Cobb. He was difficult to deal with.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 pmI for one loved Cobb other than a bad hire in basketball things were immediately better when he took the helm. Immediately after he was at the helm we had our first 24,000 attendance coastal I believe. Doug has done everything that was needed. That’s neither good or bad.
Cobb did do some good things but he followed the worst AD in the history of D1. When you refer to the attendance rising in Cobb's first game you do know that had nothing to do with Cobb and was 100% to do with Laney? He ran so many people off and had held us down so long that our fans literally celebrated his resigning and so many immediately re-joined Yosef Club and decided to get excited and show up, donate, and support our program.
I personally know many, including people like Dexter Coakley, who vowed to not come back or donate until the day Laney was gone and they literally called within the 24-48 hours of his resignation. There was a tangible excitement in the stadium because of it. There were so many former players who jumped on the train because he left.
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I worked for app state video staff in 2009-2010 and as far as the program has come since then it’s clear Gillin has done some work. I don’t think the rise of our program happens on accident, and we’re one of the best to ever move up.
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I had to add my two cents when I read this heading and initial "question".
I feel very fortunate for App, at the level we are at in overall college football pecking order, to have a guy that seems to be making all the right moves. It is very difficult for any program to get a really good guy as AD, much less a G5 level program. It is like coaches, if you get a really good one, everybody wants them and will pay to get them. As some have said, we have seen some bad ones and not so good ones and okay ADs before so I am very pleased and proud of Doug Gillin.
I feel very fortunate for App, at the level we are at in overall college football pecking order, to have a guy that seems to be making all the right moves. It is very difficult for any program to get a really good guy as AD, much less a G5 level program. It is like coaches, if you get a really good one, everybody wants them and will pay to get them. As some have said, we have seen some bad ones and not so good ones and okay ADs before so I am very pleased and proud of Doug Gillin.
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True story.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:32 pmThe proof to back it up is call the season ticket people who were there and Gerald Adams before he passed on at the impact. He flat out told me and others I was with that Laney leaving was a huge boom to the Yosef Club. Ask anyone in the know and they will tell you with 100% fact that Laney leaving was a big reason for it. I saw many at that CCU game who flat said they were back because Laney was gone. We had not won the NC yet and CCU was not a big draw for us because they were a new program. Ask anyone who worked at App or was in the know and they will 100% back up what I said. I am sure there are 50 people who post on this board who know and would back it up. Laney's resignation caused the biggest increase in Yosef Club giving in our history.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:17 pmYou’re definitely in the know more than me state 1 . I would not know how Cobb was behind the scene. It’s easy to say that the attendance draw was laney with nothing to back it up. I know attendance was immediately better under Cobb. Doug has sailed this ship better than I could have ever imagined in the FBS era.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 pmTalk to people who worked for Cobb. He was difficult to deal with.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 pmI for one loved Cobb other than a bad hire in basketball things were immediately better when he took the helm. Immediately after he was at the helm we had our first 24,000 attendance coastal I believe. Doug has done everything that was needed. That’s neither good or bad.
Cobb did do some good things but he followed the worst AD in the history of D1. When you refer to the attendance rising in Cobb's first game you do know that had nothing to do with Cobb and was 100% to do with Laney? He ran so many people off and had held us down so long that our fans literally celebrated his resigning and so many immediately re-joined Yosef Club and decided to get excited and show up, donate, and support our program.
I personally know many, including people like Dexter Coakley, who vowed to not come back or donate until the day Laney was gone and they literally called within the 24-48 hours of his resignation. There was a tangible excitement in the stadium because of it. There were so many former players who jumped on the train because he left.
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Great. Thanks for all the useful info that lead me no where.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:32 pmThe proof to back it up is call the season ticket people who were there and Gerald Adams before he passed on at the impact. He flat out told me and others I was with that Laney leaving was a huge boom to the Yosef Club. Ask anyone in the know and they will tell you with 100% fact that Laney leaving was a big reason for it. I saw many at that CCU game who flat said they were back because Laney was gone. We had not won the NC yet and CCU was not a big draw for us because they were a new program. Ask anyone who worked at App or was in the know and they will 100% back up what I said. I am sure there are 50 people who post on this board who know and would back it up. Laney's resignation caused the biggest increase in Yosef Club giving in our history.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:17 pmYou’re definitely in the know more than me state 1 . I would not know how Cobb was behind the scene. It’s easy to say that the attendance draw was laney with nothing to back it up. I know attendance was immediately better under Cobb. Doug has sailed this ship better than I could have ever imagined in the FBS era.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 pmTalk to people who worked for Cobb. He was difficult to deal with.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 pmI for one loved Cobb other than a bad hire in basketball things were immediately better when he took the helm. Immediately after he was at the helm we had our first 24,000 attendance coastal I believe. Doug has done everything that was needed. That’s neither good or bad.
Cobb did do some good things but he followed the worst AD in the history of D1. When you refer to the attendance rising in Cobb's first game you do know that had nothing to do with Cobb and was 100% to do with Laney? He ran so many people off and had held us down so long that our fans literally celebrated his resigning and so many immediately re-joined Yosef Club and decided to get excited and show up, donate, and support our program.
I personally know many, including people like Dexter Coakley, who vowed to not come back or donate until the day Laney was gone and they literally called within the 24-48 hours of his resignation. There was a tangible excitement in the stadium because of it. There were so many former players who jumped on the train because he left.
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Consider me a huge fan. Just look at the success of our signature program, our scheduling, our facilities, our coaching hires, our national reputation, his professionalism and representation of our Alma mater, etc... I wish fans and alumni had given their all as much as DG has. The sky would be the limit.
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Make book on this statement: Doug Gillin is the finest professional and man Appalachian could have captaining the ship. Damn fine man, good family, and real guy. I consider him a friend and I personally thanked him for passing on the Cincinnati opportunity. Our staff looks at these threads...………..count a blessing when you have it.
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Amen!!muletrain15 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:15 pmMake book on this statement: Doug Gillin is the finest professional and man Appalachian could have captaining the ship. Damn fine man, good family, and real guy. I consider him a friend and I personally thanked him for passing on the Cincinnati opportunity. Our staff looks at these threads...………..count a blessing when you have it.
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No question...we are damn lucky to have Doug Gillin as our AD and I hope we're able to hold on to him for a while...
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Thank You for your leadership. Your continued commitment to excellence is making a difference across “The Appalachian Family”. Never let up on those core values: academic integrity, social responsibility, competitive excellence and a world-class experience. We are all with you, the athletic department, support personnel, players and coaches that go out there every day to represent, compete and win for AppState.
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You said I had no proof that the increase had to do with Laney leaving and I literally just said ask anyone involved with ticket sales and the YC. Those who were there told me and many others that Laney’s resignation was what sparked it.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:30 pmGreat. Thanks for all the useful info that lead me no where.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:32 pmThe proof to back it up is call the season ticket people who were there and Gerald Adams before he passed on at the impact. He flat out told me and others I was with that Laney leaving was a huge boom to the Yosef Club. Ask anyone in the know and they will tell you with 100% fact that Laney leaving was a big reason for it. I saw many at that CCU game who flat said they were back because Laney was gone. We had not won the NC yet and CCU was not a big draw for us because they were a new program. Ask anyone who worked at App or was in the know and they will 100% back up what I said. I am sure there are 50 people who post on this board who know and would back it up. Laney's resignation caused the biggest increase in Yosef Club giving in our history.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:17 pmYou’re definitely in the know more than me state 1 . I would not know how Cobb was behind the scene. It’s easy to say that the attendance draw was laney with nothing to back it up. I know attendance was immediately better under Cobb. Doug has sailed this ship better than I could have ever imagined in the FBS era.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:37 pmTalk to people who worked for Cobb. He was difficult to deal with.mountaineerman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:24 pm
I for one loved Cobb other than a bad hire in basketball things were immediately better when he took the helm. Immediately after he was at the helm we had our first 24,000 attendance coastal I believe. Doug has done everything that was needed. That’s neither good or bad.
Cobb did do some good things but he followed the worst AD in the history of D1. When you refer to the attendance rising in Cobb's first game you do know that had nothing to do with Cobb and was 100% to do with Laney? He ran so many people off and had held us down so long that our fans literally celebrated his resigning and so many immediately re-joined Yosef Club and decided to get excited and show up, donate, and support our program.
I personally know many, including people like Dexter Coakley, who vowed to not come back or donate until the day Laney was gone and they literally called within the 24-48 hours of his resignation. There was a tangible excitement in the stadium because of it. There were so many former players who jumped on the train because he left.
Literally, you or I could have been the new AD and just let good things come to us and we would have done better than Laney. Gerald Adams told me directly that him leaving sparked the boom. He said he expected increases but was shocked at how massive the new giving and season ticket signups were. It was like having a deadly cancer and within 24 hours being completely cured from it.
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Interesting. On this board he was lavished with praise and could do no wrong.....until he left.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:52 pmCobb only walked on water for very few people. Most did not like him at all.
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After more than fifty years as an APP fan I can say Gillin has done an excellent job. But, to disparage and despise Charlie Cobb seems kinda pathetic. For those that give Laney the credit for success in attendance and Yosef membership/donations once Cobb took over, really?!? If Cobb was so bad can’t the same be said about Gillin! His success was due to Cobb being so bad! I for one think Charlie Cobb did a fantastic job, if no other reason that he and Peacock brought us out of the dark ages we had endured for decades and only good thing Laney did as AD was leave!