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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by NavyApp » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:29 pm

If he comes, cool. I trust the coaching staff, maybe it would work out. Only caveat is that it can only be for one year, at most all we need is a stop gap(not 100,% sold on that) nothing more. We should not bring any anyone who will slow the growth of the young guys, or encourage them to transfer.
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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:35 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
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Big difference IMO between a one and done kid that doesn't care about school and is just waiting for his lottery pick in the draft and a graduate transfer of a kid going to a position of need in exchange for a graduate degree.

It makes perfect sense for the situation we're in. Maybe Tabscott competes and wins the starting job, maybe one of our other QBs does, Maybe Tabscott doesn't work out and we at least have a stop gap for a year to figure things out. From everything we're hearing Tabscott is the future, so it makes perfect sense to have the one year for him (and our new Oline) to get acclimated and make sure we continue the streak against lil bro on the hill in 2022. And maybe get payback on several schools in 2021.
Please NO to Brice. What has he done on the field that makes anyone feel warm and fuzzy about? Duke has had some solid QB play the last half decade but not so much with Brice. He has a nice pedigree but he doesn't pass the eye test.

I also agree if we go the transfer route the grad transfer makes the most sense for us. I personally believe a multi year transfer would hinder us more than help us. It will stunt the growth of our younger QBs and everyone isn't Huesman, we most likely will lose talent. For me it's either Tabscott/Goodman day 1 or a Grad Transfer, anything else scares me.
That Duke team was really bad across the board, and Dave Cutcliffe asks a ton out of his QB's in terms of playmaking and generating offense. Our QB's are always more in a game manager role. I don't know how a former five star prospect with meaningful ACC experience scares you more than throwing a true freshman out to the wolves next year.
54% completion percentage, less than 5yds/attempt 10tds to 15 interceptions. What about that advances our program? If we are going to have a down year at QB I'd rather have it from a young guy with room to grow than from someone who has shown he is not a great QB.
I don't really care what their recruiting rating was once they've been in college four years, but for the record, Brice was not a 5-star recruit: https://247sports.com/Player/Chase-Bric ... ol-121119/

I share your skepticism, but we may just have to hope he finds Sun Belt defenses easier to solve than ACC ones.
You're right, I got him mixed up with the other former Clemson backup QB that transferred to Northwestern

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:38 pm

We should have an answer to the $10,000 question soon.

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by NavyApp » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:40 pm

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We should have an answer to the $10,000 question soon.
Soooooo.....is soon like hours, days or weeks? I'm emotionally frail my friend.
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Re: QB 2021

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NavyApp wrote:
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We should have an answer to the $10,000 question soon.
Soooooo.....is soon like hours, days or weeks? I'm emotionally frail my friend.
This week. Next day or two, probably.

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by app97 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:44 pm

Do we know for sure that Huesman is not coming back?

I would have liked to see him get more reps, not really sure why he wasn’t used more in garbage time as a senior who has worked his tail off.
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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by NavyApp » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:45 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:42 pm
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:40 pm
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We should have an answer to the $10,000 question soon.
Soooooo.....is soon like hours, days or weeks? I'm emotionally frail my friend.
This week. Next day or two, probably.
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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by kornegaylw » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:47 pm

Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:49 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
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We should have an answer to the $10,000 question soon.
If it is indeed Chase Brice or whoever then I will be interested to see the competition between the transfer, Tabscott, Shuler, and Goodman. Anything could happen so I wonder if we don't know who the starter is until the fall or if this transfer is so good that he wins it outright in the spring? Just a lot we don't know. Goodman is coming off injury so he did not play in 2020 and Tabscott had a big time senior year. We still have not seen Shuler. We won't know for sure but there is definitely a chance one of the young guys surprises and wins with the lack of information and in person evaluations colleges had this year.

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Re: QB 2021

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Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.
15 picks on a diet of short passes is alarming, I don't care how you cut it. The phrase "Duke was bad across the board" keeps showing up, doesn't that apply to Brice too? Also why wouldn't he stay at Duke one more year with said QB guru? I get that 2020 has been nuts and everyone should get the benefit of the doubt but why are we already trying to defend a dude that flat out ain't done nothing? Are we not good enough of a program to warrant more than a two time P5 cast off? Don't you think we deserve better? I surely do!
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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by yosef69 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:11 pm

NavyApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm
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Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:47 pm
Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.
15 picks on a diet of short passes is alarming, I don't care how you cut it. The phrase "Duke was bad across the board" keeps showing up, doesn't that apply to Brice too? Also why wouldn't he stay at Duke one more year with said QB guru? I get that 2020 has been nuts and everyone should get the benefit of the doubt but why are we already trying to defend a dude that flat out ain't done nothing? Are we not good enough of a program to warrant more than a two time P5 cast off? Don't you think we deserve better? I surely do!
He only transferred from Clemson because he was behind 2 5* recruits.

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by kornegaylw » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:44 pm

NavyApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:47 pm
Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.
15 picks on a diet of short passes is alarming, I don't care how you cut it. The phrase "Duke was bad across the board" keeps showing up, doesn't that apply to Brice too? Also why wouldn't he stay at Duke one more year with said QB guru? I get that 2020 has been nuts and everyone should get the benefit of the doubt but why are we already trying to defend a dude that flat out ain't done nothing? Are we not good enough of a program to warrant more than a two time P5 cast off? Don't you think we deserve better? I surely do!
Hey I share your concerns too I'm just trying to play devils advocate here...I think that App should be a prime destination for good QBs but up until this year nobody gave the SunBelt a look and from what I've been told about how coaching staffs have dealt with ZT the past 3 years hasn't given us the best look to potential QB transfers.

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by NavyApp » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:54 pm

kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:44 pm
NavyApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:47 pm
Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.
15 picks on a diet of short passes is alarming, I don't care how you cut it. The phrase "Duke was bad across the board" keeps showing up, doesn't that apply to Brice too? Also why wouldn't he stay at Duke one more year with said QB guru? I get that 2020 has been nuts and everyone should get the benefit of the doubt but why are we already trying to defend a dude that flat out ain't done nothing? Are we not good enough of a program to warrant more than a two time P5 cast off? Don't you think we deserve better? I surely do!
Hey I share your concerns too I'm just trying to play devils advocate here...I think that App should be a prime destination for good QBs but up until this year nobody gave the SunBelt a look and from what I've been told about how coaching staffs have dealt with ZT the past 3 years hasn't given us the best look to potential QB transfers.
I'm tracking, I just want to make sure that the young guys aka the future are being developed and not hindered. Next year we should have a RIDICULOUS amount of talent at all the skill positions. If(and a HUGE IF at that) the new OL guys can pick up where their predecessors left off we should have an explosive offense. Yes I know, ifs and buts were candies and nuts, but the future is very bright and I don't want us to screw it up.
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Re: QB 2021

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I strongly believe Brice is coming and will announce it in the next day or so.
Bingo

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Unread post by huskie3 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:31 pm

I certainly hope not. It’s Shuler and Tapscott for me.
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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:46 pm

NavyApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:47 pm
Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.
15 picks on a diet of short passes is alarming, I don't care how you cut it. The phrase "Duke was bad across the board" keeps showing up, doesn't that apply to Brice too? Also why wouldn't he stay at Duke one more year with said QB guru? I get that 2020 has been nuts and everyone should get the benefit of the doubt but why are we already trying to defend a dude that flat out ain't done nothing? Are we not good enough of a program to warrant more than a two time P5 cast off? Don't you think we deserve better? I surely do!
He could very well be coming to App and get the graduate degree and be apart of a championship team. We don't know that he will start. Goodman, Tabscott, and Shuler are on scholarship as well. They may have something to say about that. I don't care who our starter is as long as they throw touchdowns, protect the ball, and lead us to victory. I will be curious to see who wins the starting job.
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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:05 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:46 pm
NavyApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:47 pm
Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.
15 picks on a diet of short passes is alarming, I don't care how you cut it. The phrase "Duke was bad across the board" keeps showing up, doesn't that apply to Brice too? Also why wouldn't he stay at Duke one more year with said QB guru? I get that 2020 has been nuts and everyone should get the benefit of the doubt but why are we already trying to defend a dude that flat out ain't done nothing? Are we not good enough of a program to warrant more than a two time P5 cast off? Don't you think we deserve better? I surely do!
He could very well be coming to App just to get the graduate degree and be apart of a championship team. We don't know that he or any transfer will start. Goodman, Tabscott, and Shuler are on scholarship as well. They may have something to say about that. I don't care who our starter is as long as they throw touchdowns, protect the ball, and lead us to victory. I will be curious to see who wins the starting job.
Yes, I’m sure the guy who has bolted from Clemson and Duke is wanting to finally learn what it’s like to be on a good team and get a degree from a good school.

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:17 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:05 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:46 pm
NavyApp wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:00 pm
kornegaylw wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:47 pm
Stats are important but they don't tell the whole story for a QB...How good was the OL/WRs, who'd they play, COVID year, etc...Cutcliffs teams are way better than the teams we all remember at Duke from the 90s and 2000's but its still Duke football.

If a QB "guru" like Cutcliff thinks he is good enough to start in a QB room of 7 guys I'm willing to give Brice a look.
15 picks on a diet of short passes is alarming, I don't care how you cut it. The phrase "Duke was bad across the board" keeps showing up, doesn't that apply to Brice too? Also why wouldn't he stay at Duke one more year with said QB guru? I get that 2020 has been nuts and everyone should get the benefit of the doubt but why are we already trying to defend a dude that flat out ain't done nothing? Are we not good enough of a program to warrant more than a two time P5 cast off? Don't you think we deserve better? I surely do!
He could very well be coming to App and get the graduate degree and be apart of a championship team. We don't know that he will start. Goodman, Tabscott, and Shuler are on scholarship as well. They may have something to say about that. I don't care who our starter is as long as they throw touchdowns, protect the ball, and lead us to victory. I will be curious to see who wins the starting job.
Yes, I’m sure the guy who has bolted from Clemson and Duke is wanting to finally learn what it’s like to be on a good team and get a degree from a good school.
Of course he EXPECTS to be our starter and win but he may not win the job. I would love to be the school that he rebounds at and puts up a huge final year but I expect him to have to earn the job and I think he knows its a win-win for him even if he does not start to go out on a winning team.

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Re: QB 2021

Unread post by Stonewall » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:27 pm

I don’t believe we have anyone on campus ready to be the starter if Huesman leaves .Or the potential to be. A lot of pressure to get this right. And soon , very soon.

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