How does ECU look?

[CheckYosef94]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

Dude, I don’t know you but I would be willing to bed my entire 401k that you’re lying about the last part hahaha

You're welcome to pay up any time you want

[BambooRdApp]

Day 1!!

[AppStateNews]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

There isn't a vaccine out there that will protect you 100%. Never has been, likely never will be. That's not how vaccines work.

The spread is significantly lowered from vaccinated people. 1 vaccinated person has died out of 165 million fully vaccinated. That is .0006060606060606060606% (or something like that).

As of the 27th of July, just over 6,200 people have died from complications with receiving the vaccine. That is .03757576%.

There have been 35.4 million cases in the US and 614 thousand deaths. That is 1.7%.

Now, I am not a mathematician, but .0006% and .0375% is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than 1.7%. Therefore, yes, the vaccine is safe and effective.

I am sorry about your losses from complications from the vaccine. But that is anecdotal and does not tell the entire story.

[AppSt94]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

In terms of our ceiling? Ok. I can buy your point. My issue is with those that have already decided that the scenario that you laid out has been predetermined by the vaccination rate of the team. While it’s possible, that it could happen, I trust the coaches to do what they can to mitigate the risks. I don’t doubt that Shawn would feel better if all of his players were vaccinated but I applaud him for not forcing his beliefs on others. I also trust that this group of kids have their teammates backs and won’t let this issue divide them. Unlike what it has done to a group of people who can’t accept the fact that they can’t control an uncontrollable to them.

[CheckYosef94]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

There isn't a vaccine out there that will protect you 100%. Never has been, likely never will be. That's not how vaccines work.

The spread is significantly lowered from vaccinated people. 1 vaccinated person has died out of 165 million fully vaccinated. That is .0006060606060606060606% (or something like that).

As of the 27th of July, just over 6,200 people have died from complications with receiving the vaccine. That is .03757576%.

There have been 35.4 million cases in the US and 614 thousand deaths. That is 1.7%.

Now, I am not a mathematician, but .0006% and .0375% is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than 1.7%. Therefore, yes, the vaccine is safe and effective.

I am sorry about your losses from complications from the vaccine. But that is anecdotal and does not tell the entire story.

You're right, no vaccine protects you 100% but we are talking about a virus that when it affects kids ages 18-23 is very likely to only show mild symptoms if it shows symptoms at all. We are talking about a virus that these kids may not even realize they have because of how very little it affects them until they take a test to see if they're positive or not. You're looking at numbers that do not represent these kids ages and health levels. As well as the death numbers being inflated by a deceased individual testing positive after death even though it wasn't the cause of death. However, this experimental vaccine has shown to have negative health effects on kids this age, swelling of the heart being one and we wont know what other side effects potentially show up for possibly years. Why on earth do we want to take a group of kids who already have a very low risk of sickness or death from this virus and force them to get an experimental vaccine that not only adds extra health risks but also doesn't stop them from potentially getting, spreading, and dying from the virus?

[AppStateNews]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

There isn't a vaccine out there that will protect you 100%. Never has been, likely never will be. That's not how vaccines work.

The spread is significantly lowered from vaccinated people. 1 vaccinated person has died out of 165 million fully vaccinated. That is .0006060606060606060606% (or something like that).

As of the 27th of July, just over 6,200 people have died from complications with receiving the vaccine. That is .03757576%.

There have been 35.4 million cases in the US and 614 thousand deaths. That is 1.7%.

Now, I am not a mathematician, but .0006% and .0375% is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than 1.7%. Therefore, yes, the vaccine is safe and effective.

I am sorry about your losses from complications from the vaccine. But that is anecdotal and does not tell the entire story.

You're right, no vaccine protects you 100% but we are talking about a virus that when it affects kids ages 18-23 is very likely to only show mild symptoms if it shows symptoms at all. We are talking about a virus that these kids may not even realize they have because of how very little it affects them until they take a test to see if they're positive or not. You're looking at numbers that do not represent these kids ages and health levels. As well as the death numbers being inflated by a deceased individual testing positive after death even though it wasn't the cause of death. However, this experimental vaccine has shown to have negative health effects on kids this age, swelling of the heart being one and we wont know what other side effects potentially show up for possibly years. Why on earth do we want to take a group of kids who already have a very low risk of sickness or death from this virus and force them to get an experimental vaccine that not only adds extra health risks but also doesn't stop them from potentially getting, spreading, and dying from the virus?

I am not going to go in circles with you on this in a thread dedicated to the ECU game as I won't change your mind. But, I will say the negative health effects on this age group that contract covid are more significant than the vaccine (at least, what studies have shown so far).

Let's get this back on topic.

ECU looks good.

[CheckYosef94]

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

There isn't a vaccine out there that will protect you 100%. Never has been, likely never will be. That's not how vaccines work.

The spread is significantly lowered from vaccinated people. 1 vaccinated person has died out of 165 million fully vaccinated. That is .0006060606060606060606% (or something like that).

As of the 27th of July, just over 6,200 people have died from complications with receiving the vaccine. That is .03757576%.

There have been 35.4 million cases in the US and 614 thousand deaths. That is 1.7%.

Now, I am not a mathematician, but .0006% and .0375% is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than 1.7%. Therefore, yes, the vaccine is safe and effective.

I am sorry about your losses from complications from the vaccine. But that is anecdotal and does not tell the entire story.

You're right, no vaccine protects you 100% but we are talking about a virus that when it affects kids ages 18-23 is very likely to only show mild symptoms if it shows symptoms at all. We are talking about a virus that these kids may not even realize they have because of how very little it affects them until they take a test to see if they're positive or not. You're looking at numbers that do not represent these kids ages and health levels. As well as the death numbers being inflated by a deceased individual testing positive after death even though it wasn't the cause of death. However, this experimental vaccine has shown to have negative health effects on kids this age, swelling of the heart being one and we wont know what other side effects potentially show up for possibly years. Why on earth do we want to take a group of kids who already have a very low risk of sickness or death from this virus and force them to get an experimental vaccine that not only adds extra health risks but also doesn't stop them from potentially getting, spreading, and dying from the virus?

I am not going to go in circles with you on this in a thread dedicated to the ECU game as I won't change your mind. But, I will say the negative health effects on this age group that contract covid are more significant than the vaccine (at least, what studies have shown so far).

Let's get this back on topic.

ECU looks good.

Considering it's a new experimental vaccine and that those in power are pushing for people to get vaccinated, I wouldn't expect the studies to show any different. The chances of these kids having negative effects due to covid, vaccine or not, is very low and I think trying to force anyone to get it or punishing anyone for not getting it is a horrible and selfish stance.

Back to the topic. I think we win but it's closer than we want.

[hapapp]

The NCAA has announced that any unvaccinated athletes will be required to test 3 times a week.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... raws-near/

If 5% of a team test positive, the entire team will be tested. Also unvaccinated players will have to wear masks at all times. The article does suggest this is guidance and that conferences/schools can set their own protocols.

If this has already been posted, my apologies.

[AppSt94]

The NCAA has announced that any unvaccinated athletes will be required to test 3 times a week.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... raws-near/

If 5% of a team test positive, the entire team will be tested. Also unvaccinated players will have to wear masks at all times. The article does suggest this is guidance and that conferences/schools can set their own protocols.

If this has already been posted, my apologies.

That isn’t how I interpreted the article.

“If at least 5% of a team tests positive, all symptomatic people and close contacts will need to be tested.”

I guess one could argue that close contact might include the whole team, but it doesn’t say that specifically. It also states the the vaccinated players do not have to quarantine after a close contact.

[t4pizza]

If, after reading those new guidelines, there are still people who don't (or refuse to) understand the vital importance of getting our entire team vaccinated then I just don't know what to say to them anymore. Clearly having a team vaccinated will present a competitive advantage over a team that has many unvaccinated players. This coupled with the Sun Belt's stated policy of not making up games and teams having to forfeit if unable to have enough players for a game could be a significant issue to any team that is not fully vaccinated. I just hope it doesn't ruin what can be an unforgettable season for App State Football this year.

[AppOrange]

He made it sound as if he's pleased with our vaccination numbers. If AppStateNews is accurate, that's not true. There were 10 better ways to answer that question, but he chose to blow smoke up our butts. Moreover, the media failed in its role to drill down deeper.

If we don't find true leadership in our lockerroom and on the coaching staff, this season has the potential to be disastrous.

So I am clear. Are you suggesting that Clark isn’t the man for the job of Head Coach? Sounds like you are questioning his abilities to lead.

I'm a big fan of coach Clark and have been thrilled with his performance to date. But if our season goes the way of N.C. State's baseball season, then I likely will have a different opinion.

I realize coach Clark is in a difficult position. I get that. And we're not even one day into fall practice. But successfully vaccinating a group of athletes takes time. Vaccinations need to start this week if we are to get to the percentages we need by the season opener. Public pronouncements that the "vast majority" of our athletes are vaccinated are great ... if true. But my Spidey sense is telling me otherwise.

This should get us back on track:

I too am a big fan of coach, and nothing in sports do I wish more than for him to be successful. With that said, I do not share your enthusiasm as to the job done so far. I would not say it has been bad, nor would I say I am pleased or satisfied. Last season was odd, so its hard to pass judgement, but for me, the two biggest question marks going into this season is how the O Line plays and how this coaching staff coaches. Not QB, not the defensive backfield, not skill positions obviously, but coaching and OL. I was not thrilled on how we started the bowl game 2 years ago (not sharp at all falling down 0-14 and looking bad doing it), and much more importantly, not winning a single important game last year, going 0-3 in our 3 most important games (yes we beat the Stink, that was good, but they weren't, and North Texas, please, that may have been the worst D was have played in a decade). So the jury is still out, and If these guys can jell and can be successful after three years of change (which is my hope on what the issue was with the team last year), then great, let's go. But if we loose to ULL, Coastal, and ECU, I will start to loose the faith and wonder if this was just not a homer hire. The man loves App, no doubt, but so do I and I would fail miserably as a coach. Big year for the staff.

[Captain Morgan]

East Carolina's football team has been tabbed in the eighth spot in the preseason American Athletic Conference media poll, as announced by the league on Wednesday at the conference's media days. The Pirates and Navy were tied for eighth with 85 points apiece. Temple was slotted 10th, and USF last at 11th.

ECU was picked to finish 10th last year. The Pirates ended up finishing ninth.

The Pirates are entering the third year of the Mike Houston era. ECU went 4-8 (1-7 AAC) in 2019 and 3-6 (3-5 AAC) last season. The Pirates closed the 2020 campaign with consecutive wins over Temple and SMU. The 3-5 record in league play marked ECU's best conference finish since 2015, the year Ruffin McNeill was controversially fired after a 5-7 campaign. The Pirates also would have had another conference win if not for a blown call at Tulsa, which eventually made the conference championship before falling to Cincinnati.

East Carolina is tabbed 69th out of 130 teams on college football guru Phil Steele’s Power Poll, where his computer formula ranks each team based on a variety of factors. Cincinnati tops the AAC at No. 18, with UCF just outside the top 25 at No. 30. Tulsa is 46th, SMU is 56th, Houston is 60th and Memphis is 68th. Steele has Cincinnati winning The American, and UCF in second, with Tulsa, SMU, Houston and Memphis in a four-way tie for third. ECU’s FBS non-conference foes are also represented on the list with Appalachian State at No. 42, South Carolina at No. 88, and Marshall at No. 92.


https://247sports.com/college/east-caro ... 168703039/

[mike87]

He made it sound as if he's pleased with our vaccination numbers. If AppStateNews is accurate, that's not true. There were 10 better ways to answer that question, but he chose to blow smoke up our butts. Moreover, the media failed in its role to drill down deeper.

If we don't find true leadership in our lockerroom and on the coaching staff, this season has the potential to be disastrous.

So I am clear. Are you suggesting that Clark isn’t the man for the job of Head Coach? Sounds like you are questioning his abilities to lead.

I'm a big fan of coach Clark and have been thrilled with his performance to date. But if our season goes the way of N.C. State's baseball season, then I likely will have a different opinion.

I realize coach Clark is in a difficult position. I get that. And we're not even one day into fall practice. But successfully vaccinating a group of athletes takes time. Vaccinations need to start this week if we are to get to the percentages we need by the season opener. Public pronouncements that the "vast majority" of our athletes are vaccinated are great ... if true. But my Spidey sense is telling me otherwise.

This should get us back on track:

I too am a big fan of coach, and nothing in sports do I wish more than for him to be successful. With that said, I do not share your enthusiasm as to the job done so far. I would not say it has been bad, nor would I say I am pleased or satisfied. Last season was odd, so its hard to pass judgement, but for me, the two biggest question marks going into this season is how the O Line plays and how this coaching staff coaches. Not QB, not the defensive backfield, not skill positions obviously, but coaching and OL. I was not thrilled on how we started the bowl game 2 years ago (not sharp at all falling down 0-14 and looking bad doing it), and much more importantly, not winning a single important game last year, going 0-3 in our 3 most important games (yes we beat the Stink, that was good, but they weren't, and North Texas, please, that may have been the worst D was have played in a decade). So the jury is still out, and If these guys can jell and can be successful after three years of change (which is my hope on what the issue was with the team last year), then great, let's go. But if we loose to ULL, Coastal, and ECU, I will start to loose the faith and wonder if this was just not a homer hire. The man loves App, no doubt, but so do I and I would fail miserably as a coach. Big year for the staff.

You make a good point and thank you for making it. Any point other than the previous pages is a good one. I'm as big a homer as there is and love the Clark hire. But, as compared to Drink, the performance wasn't there last year. I can make the same excuses of Covid year and 3rd head coach in as many years. But, first few games this year are big for the Big Man.

[hapapp]

The NCAA has announced that any unvaccinated athletes will be required to test 3 times a week.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... raws-near/

If 5% of a team test positive, the entire team will be tested. Also unvaccinated players will have to wear masks at all times. The article does suggest this is guidance and that conferences/schools can set their own protocols.

If this has already been posted, my apologies.

That isn’t how I interpreted the article.

“If at least 5% of a team tests positive, all symptomatic people and close contacts will need to be tested.”

I guess one could argue that close contact might include the whole team, but it doesn’t say that specifically. It also states the the vaccinated players do not have to quarantine after a close contact.

You are correct! I went back and reread the article and that is precisely what the article says.

[mike87]

East Carolina's football team has been tabbed in the eighth spot in the preseason American Athletic Conference media poll, as announced by the league on Wednesday at the conference's media days. The Pirates and Navy were tied for eighth with 85 points apiece. Temple was slotted 10th, and USF last at 11th.

ECU was picked to finish 10th last year. The Pirates ended up finishing ninth.

The Pirates are entering the third year of the Mike Houston era. ECU went 4-8 (1-7 AAC) in 2019 and 3-6 (3-5 AAC) last season. The Pirates closed the 2020 campaign with consecutive wins over Temple and SMU. The 3-5 record in league play marked ECU's best conference finish since 2015, the year Ruffin McNeill was controversially fired after a 5-7 campaign. The Pirates also would have had another conference win if not for a blown call at Tulsa, which eventually made the conference championship before falling to Cincinnati.

East Carolina is tabbed 69th out of 130 teams on college football guru Phil Steele’s Power Poll, where his computer formula ranks each team based on a variety of factors. Cincinnati tops the AAC at No. 18, with UCF just outside the top 25 at No. 30. Tulsa is 46th, SMU is 56th, Houston is 60th and Memphis is 68th. Steele has Cincinnati winning The American, and UCF in second, with Tulsa, SMU, Houston and Memphis in a four-way tie for third. ECU’s FBS non-conference foes are also represented on the list with Appalachian State at No. 42, South Carolina at No. 88, and Marshall at No. 92.


https://247sports.com/college/east-caro ... 168703039/

So according to Phil Steele's poll ECU is a better team than Marshall or South Carolina. It's going to be a battle in Charlotte.

[JPatH3292]

East Carolina's football team has been tabbed in the eighth spot in the preseason American Athletic Conference media poll, as announced by the league on Wednesday at the conference's media days. The Pirates and Navy were tied for eighth with 85 points apiece. Temple was slotted 10th, and USF last at 11th.

ECU was picked to finish 10th last year. The Pirates ended up finishing ninth.

The Pirates are entering the third year of the Mike Houston era. ECU went 4-8 (1-7 AAC) in 2019 and 3-6 (3-5 AAC) last season. The Pirates closed the 2020 campaign with consecutive wins over Temple and SMU. The 3-5 record in league play marked ECU's best conference finish since 2015, the year Ruffin McNeill was controversially fired after a 5-7 campaign. The Pirates also would have had another conference win if not for a blown call at Tulsa, which eventually made the conference championship before falling to Cincinnati.

East Carolina is tabbed 69th out of 130 teams on college football guru Phil Steele’s Power Poll, where his computer formula ranks each team based on a variety of factors. Cincinnati tops the AAC at No. 18, with UCF just outside the top 25 at No. 30. Tulsa is 46th, SMU is 56th, Houston is 60th and Memphis is 68th. Steele has Cincinnati winning The American, and UCF in second, with Tulsa, SMU, Houston and Memphis in a four-way tie for third. ECU’s FBS non-conference foes are also represented on the list with Appalachian State at No. 42, South Carolina at No. 88, and Marshall at No. 92.


https://247sports.com/college/east-caro ... 168703039/

So according to Phil Steele's poll ECU is a better team than Marshall or South Carolina. It's going to be a battle in Charlotte.

It’s going to be a great game in Charlotte. But I also didn’t realize Marshall was supposed to fall that far this year?

[Cro-Magnon App]

I thank you all for the comments. Now I am ready to go to Charlotte and expect a good game. I appreciate All fans here filling me in on ECU much better than one or two newspaper sources could.

Go App State!

[bcoach]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

You have a VERY unique group of friends.

[AppSt94]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

You have a VERY unique group of friends.

[CheckYosef94]

I don’t feel that the NC State situation is a fair comparison. Any issues, should they arise will not prevent us from playing for a National Championship. While I understand your point about vaccinations mitigating the “Potential” of a loss by forfeiture, it’s just a game.

But if that "just a game" causes us to forfeit the SunBelt Championship game that in turn causes us to miss out on a undefeated season and the NY6, that's exactly like NC State..

Work your tail off all season to get derailed by some teammates that chose to not get a safe and effective vaccine based on technology that's been in development since.late 80s/early 90s.

Safe and effective? It’s so effective that even after you get the vaccine you can still get, spread, and die from the virus. And I personally know more people who have died from complications from the vaccine than I know who have died from the virus.

You have a VERY unique group of friends.

The people I know who have passed from complications from the vaccine were parents of neighbors. If that's what you're referring too. Everyone I know that has gotten the virus has recovered. Even my uncle who has serious lung problems. He spent most of 2019 living in a bubble while undergoing stem cell treatment trying to rebuild his immune system to fight scleroderma-related interstitial lung disease. Unfortunately it didn't work. He was on a ventilator for a while but ultimately recovered to where he was before covid. I realize that I'm lucky that covid hasn't affected my family and friends and if you want the vaccine please get it but I still think forcing an experimental vaccine on very low risk population and then having the NCAA punish those that decide not to get it is a very stupid idea.