Article: Projecting the First Loss for the Remaining Undefeated Teams

[appgrad95&97]

Coastal is good. It's hard to make a case they're not a lot better than a team we've played this year. I can't imagine what the line will be when we play them. But they are better than we are. Can we win, sure. But they are better than we are.

What exactly are you basing this on? The inflated 15 next to their name? Coastal's opponents have a cool 8-21 combined record. And if you subtract the Citadel it's 6-19. They haven't played a team with a winning record yet and as been mentioned before, ECU, Miami, Marshall and perhaps Georgia State are all better than anyone they have played. So I'm a bit surprised as an App fan you are so quick to raise the white flag. The certainty of which you are willing to concede that "sure" we can win is curious at best.

I'm not raising a white flag. I was clear that we could beat them. I said that they were better than we are. I base that on an eye test. I've watched them play two full games. I've also watched all of ours. I think they are better than we are. Our red zone defense is UNBELIEVABLE. If not for our ability to hold teams to field goals, rather than touchdowns, we loose to Marshall and the Georgia St. score would have been much closer. I get that Coastal has not played great competition, but they look good. They look better than us. You might not like or agree with my assessment, that's fine. But my perspective is shared by 61 AP poll voters.

[Bootsy]

Coastal is a new face on the FBS football scene. They are winning games and aren't well known. That makes for good print, and the media is always looking for something new to talk about.

They built these schedules years ago when they didn't have the talent or coaching staff they have now. Their conference schedule doesn't change and you can't really blame them for scheduling weaker teams. Time and circumstances change everything.

No need to argue about whether or not the Chickens are good and if we'll beat them. It will all be settled in a few weeks time.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

It sure would be awesome to run the table, give Coastal their only loss and keep them out of the Conference Championship Game

[Black Saturday]

Coastal is good. It's hard to make a case they're not a lot better than a team we've played this year. I can't imagine what the line will be when we play them. But they are better than we are. Can we win, sure. But they are better than we are.

And it can be argued about what those 61 are smoking too, but likely have watched. Gentlemen’s wager with you, your Coastal team goes home with a loss from The Rock.

What exactly are you basing this on? The inflated 15 next to their name? Coastal's opponents have a cool 8-21 combined record. And if you subtract the Citadel it's 6-19. They haven't played a team with a winning record yet and as been mentioned before, ECU, Miami, Marshall and perhaps Georgia State are all better than anyone they have played. So I'm a bit surprised as an App fan you are so quick to raise the white flag. The certainty of which you are willing to concede that "sure" we can win is curious at best.

I'm not raising a white flag. I was clear that we could beat them. I said that they were better than we are. I base that on an eye test. I've watched them play two full games. I've also watched all of ours. I think they are better than we are. Our red zone defense is UNBELIEVABLE. If not for our ability to hold teams to field goals, rather than touchdowns, we loose to Marshall and the Georgia St. score would have been much closer. I get that Coastal has not played great competition, but they look good. They look better than us. You might not like or agree with my assessment, that's fine. But my perspective is shared by 61 AP poll voters.

[Black Saturday]

Coastal is good. It's hard to make a case they're not a lot better than a team we've played this year. I can't imagine what the line will be when we play them. But they are better than we are. Can we win, sure. But they are better than we are.

What exactly are you basing this on? The inflated 15 next to their name? Coastal's opponents have a cool 8-21 combined record. And if you subtract the Citadel it's 6-19. They haven't played a team with a winning record yet and as been mentioned before, ECU, Miami, Marshall and perhaps Georgia State are all better than anyone they have played. So I'm a bit surprised as an App fan you are so quick to raise the white flag. The certainty of which you are willing to concede that "sure" we can win is curious at best.

I'm not raising a white flag. I was clear that we could beat them. I said that they were better than we are. I base that on an eye test. I've watched them play two full games. I've also watched all of ours. I think they are better than we are. Our red zone defense is UNBELIEVABLE. If not for our ability to hold teams to field goals, rather than touchdowns, we loose to Marshall and the Georgia St. score would have been much closer. I get that Coastal has not played great competition, but they look good. They look better than us. You might not like or agree with my assessment, that's fine. But my perspective is shared by 61 AP poll voters.

And it can be argued whether those 61 have actually watched Coastal play or it’s a carryover placement and the luxury of a lame no name schedule. Gentleman’s wager with you that your Coastal team goes home with the loss from The Rock.

[appgrad95&97]

Coastal is good. It's hard to make a case they're not a lot better than a team we've played this year. I can't imagine what the line will be when we play them. But they are better than we are. Can we win, sure. But they are better than we are.

What exactly are you basing this on? The inflated 15 next to their name? Coastal's opponents have a cool 8-21 combined record. And if you subtract the Citadel it's 6-19. They haven't played a team with a winning record yet and as been mentioned before, ECU, Miami, Marshall and perhaps Georgia State are all better than anyone they have played. So I'm a bit surprised as an App fan you are so quick to raise the white flag. The certainty of which you are willing to concede that "sure" we can win is curious at best.

I'm not raising a white flag. I was clear that we could beat them. I said that they were better than we are. I base that on an eye test. I've watched them play two full games. I've also watched all of ours. I think they are better than we are. Our red zone defense is UNBELIEVABLE. If not for our ability to hold teams to field goals, rather than touchdowns, we loose to Marshall and the Georgia St. score would have been much closer. I get that Coastal has not played great competition, but they look good. They look better than us. You might not like or agree with my assessment, that's fine. But my perspective is shared by 61 AP poll voters.

And it can be argued whether those 61 have actually watched Coastal play or it’s a carryover placement and the luxury of a lame no name schedule. Gentleman’s wager with you that your Coastal team goes home with the loss from The Rock.

Ethan Joyce has Coastal at 13 and us at 24. I'm assuming he has a better idea than most about App football. He is the only voter with us ranked. I don't see how my statement that Coastal is better than us is some hot take. Again, I'm not saying we can't beat them.

[WataugaMan]

If we execute like we did the second half of the Ga State game, come October 20th we win. If we can't get out of our own way, like the first half of the Ga State game, we lose.

[BambooRdApp]

Personally feel like this has been the season. Offense does not get running like a well oiled machine until the 2nd half...maybe they need to change routine in pregame locker room..

[AppStFan1]

It sure would be awesome to run the table, give Coastal their only loss and keep them out of the Conference Championship Game

Exactly what I want. In fact, I hope we run the table and then both ULL and CCU run the table after our game. If our league somehow has 3 teams with double digit wins and 2 ranked in the top 20 that would be great for our league.

[Black Saturday]

Coastal is good. It's hard to make a case they're not a lot better than a team we've played this year. I can't imagine what the line will be when we play them. But they are better than we are. Can we win, sure. But they are better than we are.

What exactly are you basing this on? The inflated 15 next to their name? Coastal's opponents have a cool 8-21 combined record. And if you subtract the Citadel it's 6-19. They haven't played a team with a winning record yet and as been mentioned before, ECU, Miami, Marshall and perhaps Georgia State are all better than anyone they have played. So I'm a bit surprised as an App fan you are so quick to raise the white flag. The certainty of which you are willing to concede that "sure" we can win is curious at best.

I'm not raising a white flag. I was clear that we could beat them. I said that they were better than we are. I base that on an eye test. I've watched them play two full games. I've also watched all of ours. I think they are better than we are. Our red zone defense is UNBELIEVABLE. If not for our ability to hold teams to field goals, rather than touchdowns, we loose to Marshall and the Georgia St. score would have been much closer. I get that Coastal has not played great competition, but they look good. They look better than us. You might not like or agree with my assessment, that's fine. But my perspective is shared by 61 AP poll voters.

And it can be argued whether those 61 have actually watched Coastal play or it’s a carryover placement and the luxury of a lame no name schedule. Gentleman’s wager with you that your Coastal team goes home with the loss from The Rock.

Ethan Joyce has Coastal at 13 and us at 24. I'm assuming he has a better idea than most about App football. He is the only voter with us ranked. I don't see how my statement that Coastal is better than us is some hot take. Again, I'm not saying we can't beat them.

Ethan is obliged to set them up so we look better when we win.

[Black Saturday]

Hers are the remaining undefeated teams.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/arti ... 021-season

[Yosef1986]

On a side note - a few years ago when App was either undeafeted or 1 loss - the press only talked about our "weak" or lowly ranked strength of schedule - no talk about that with CCU.

[Yosef84]

On a side note - a few years ago when App was either undeafeted or 1 loss - the press only talked about our "weak" or lowly ranked strength of schedule - no talk about that with CCU.

That's really my only beef with Coastal's media attention right now. They seem to be getting a pass that other G5 programs really didn't get. That said, if they are still undefeated coming down to NY6 time, you'll most certainly hear it. As long as App takes care of business on 10/20, we can make this whole thing go away.

[Saint3333]

ESPN will pimp them until they are of no use to them. That either comes with an App loss or ESPN choosing to pimp the third best SEC team over a 12-0 G5 team with the weakest SOS in CFB.

CCU fans will cry victim either way as they don’t understand this business yet.

[AppStFan1]

ESPN will pimp them until they are of no use to them. That either comes with an App loss or ESPN choosing to pimp the third best SEC team over a 12-0 G5 team with the weakest SOS in CFB.

CCU fans will cry victim either way as they don’t understand this business yet.

No doubt. The Michigan game still comes up because that day was truly legendary and they milked it. They still do sometimes. If Coastal loses 1 game this year they will fall like a rock and will be seen on par with what someone like UTSA at that point. I actually hope we are their only loss though so we can have both of us finish ranked. I would rather it be ULL but if we give them two losses our best shot is App and CCU.

[Black Saturday]

ESPN will pimp them until they are of no use to them. That either comes with an App loss or ESPN choosing to pimp the third best SEC team over a 12-0 G5 team with the weakest SOS in CFB.

CCU fans will cry victim either way as they don’t understand this business yet.

No doubt. The Michigan game still comes up because that day was truly legendary and they milked it. They still do sometimes. If Coastal loses 1 game this year they will fall like a rock and will be seen on par with what someone like UTSA at that point. I actually hope we are their only loss though so we can have both of us finish ranked. I would rather it be ULL but if we give them two losses our best shot is App and CCU.

Is it simple to win the conference? We must beat Coastal assuming we both win out. We can lose to ULL and still win the title just travel back to UL to play in December, but win. If we win out, do we play Liberty, like Coastal did last year. Liberty is ranked ahead of us currently.

[AppStFan1]

No doubt. The Michigan game still comes up because that day was truly legendary and they milked it. They still do sometimes. If Coastal loses 1 game this year they will fall like a rock and will be seen on par with what someone like UTSA at that point. I actually hope we are their only loss though so we can have both of us finish ranked. I would rather it be ULL but if we give them two losses our best shot is App and CCU.

Is it simple to win the conference? We must beat Coastal assuming we both win out. We can lose to ULL and still win the title just travel back to UL to play in December, but win. If we win out, do we play Liberty, like Coastal did last year. Liberty is ranked ahead of us currently.

If we win the league but don't win out then it means CCU has lost multiple games and I think the league profile drops a lot. I'm pulling for us to win out and for us to be their only loss. I want our league profile to be seen as strong as it helps us. I don't even think about bowls until we get to late November. A lot can happen but after the next 2 games we should at least have a good idea about what is possible.

[Black Saturday]

We take both games, this Tuesday and Wednesday week.

[WASU 93]

Looking at the Sagarin Ratings (which is one of the few to include FBS and FCS), there is no way Coastal should be ranked ahead of Wake Forest

#15 Coastal Carolina (#35 in the ratings)
--Victories over The Citadel (199), Kansas (135), Buffalo (97), UMass (180), ULM (162), Arky St. (139)
#16 Wake Forest (#22)--ODU (142), Norfolk St. (188), Florida State (77), Virginia (55), Louisville (59), Syracuse (80)

But, Coastal started in the Top 25 and Wake had to earn it's way in.

[Black Saturday]

Had the ball bounced our way in Miami?