Holy Toledo!

[AppStFan1]

We're still short a home game in 2025 and I'm guessing it'll be an FCS team...

Would Gillin be willing to not play FCS teams if it meant us playing at BOA to get the P5 to count as a home game for now? After seeing how it went I enjoyed it and hope to do it every year possibly. I would have to think that playing in a NFL stadium is attractive for everyone. Clearly ACC and SEC teams are willing to do it because it happens every year.

[appfanjj]

Hope it isn't on a week night in Boone. What is the actual date of both games?

[WASU 93]

We're still short a home game in 2025 and I'm guessing it'll be an FCS team...

Would Gillin be willing to not play FCS teams if it meant us playing at BOA to get the P5 to count as a home game for now? After seeing how it went I enjoyed it and hope to do it every year possibly. I would have to think that playing in a NFL stadium is attractive for everyone. Clearly ACC and SEC teams are willing to do it because it happens every year.

I'd vote for once every 5 years. It was a different experience, but I'd rather tailgate in Boone (or on any college campus) and play in a college stadium with all of the sights and traditions. It felt more like a Bowl game than a home game.

Again, not bad as a one-off, but don't make it an annual occurance.

[AppStFan1]

We're still short a home game in 2025 and I'm guessing it'll be an FCS team...

Would Gillin be willing to not play FCS teams if it meant us playing at BOA to get the P5 to count as a home game for now? After seeing how it went I enjoyed it and hope to do it every year possibly. I would have to think that playing in a NFL stadium is attractive for everyone. Clearly ACC and SEC teams are willing to do it because it happens every year.

I'd vote for once every 5 years. It was a different experience, but I'd rather tailgate in Boone (or on any college campus) and play in a college stadium with all of the sights and traditions. It felt more like a Bowl game than a home game.

Again, not bad as a one-off, but don't make it an annual occurance.

I get what you mean and obviously I would rather play in Boone but I would hope our admin would be willing to do it if that is what it means to get NC State, West Virginia, UVA, VT, SC, UNC, etc on our schedule more often or at all in the future. I know that things happen we won't know but would be curious to hear the offers from all the P5s we have had discussions with.

I know people argue that Coastal is ranked #15 playing a poor SOS but it is a super soft ranking that will crumble with a loss or a couple close games. They don't play any ranked teams this year so they don't have a game to help them bounce back if they stumble one week.

[WASU 93]

We're still short a home game in 2025 and I'm guessing it'll be an FCS team...

Would Gillin be willing to not play FCS teams if it meant us playing at BOA to get the P5 to count as a home game for now? After seeing how it went I enjoyed it and hope to do it every year possibly. I would have to think that playing in a NFL stadium is attractive for everyone. Clearly ACC and SEC teams are willing to do it because it happens every year.

I'd vote for once every 5 years. It was a different experience, but I'd rather tailgate in Boone (or on any college campus) and play in a college stadium with all of the sights and traditions. It felt more like a Bowl game than a home game.

Again, not bad as a one-off, but don't make it an annual occurance.

I get what you mean and obviously I would rather play in Boone but I would hope our admin would be willing to do it if that is what it means to get NC State, West Virginia, UVA, VT, SC, UNC, etc on our schedule more often or at all in the future. I know that things happen we won't know but would be curious to hear the offers from all the P5s we have had discussions with.

I know people argue that Coastal is ranked #15 playing a poor SOS but it is a super soft ranking that will crumble with a loss or a couple close games. They don't play any ranked teams this year so they don't have a game to help them bounce back if they stumble one week.

I'm not against a P5 in Charlotte, just not as an annual. Especially, in the current situation where we know that one or two of our home games each year are going the be moved to a weeknight (the price of success)
Speaking of Coastal's strength of schedule, they went into this week #179 in SOS in the Sagarin Ratings. (there are 130 FBS schools). App's schedule is #97

[Rick83]

We're still short a home game in 2025 and I'm guessing it'll be an FCS team...

Would Gillin be willing to not play FCS teams if it meant us playing at BOA to get the P5 to count as a home game for now? After seeing how it went I enjoyed it and hope to do it every year possibly. I would have to think that playing in a NFL stadium is attractive for everyone. Clearly ACC and SEC teams are willing to do it because it happens every year.

I don't know but the formula for most (including us) is to schedule one easy FCS team at home of course. I'd be surprised to see us able to get a game at BOA every year but hopefully we'll get another invite to play there again soon.
This is our current 2025 non-conference games:
09/06 - at South Carolina
09/20 - Toledo
10/11 - at Liberty
So, I'd expect an FCS game in Boone to be added.

[APPdiesel]

I'm fine with playing a game in Charlotte if it's a H-H-N with a P5 we've never played. If it's what we have to do to finally get the West Virginia, NC State, UVA types on the schedule then I'm in. Would not be in favor of a Charlotte game to play bottom half P5s. A game at BOA needs to be a special event.

[AppStFan1]

We're still short a home game in 2025 and I'm guessing it'll be an FCS team...

Would Gillin be willing to not play FCS teams if it meant us playing at BOA to get the P5 to count as a home game for now? After seeing how it went I enjoyed it and hope to do it every year possibly. I would have to think that playing in a NFL stadium is attractive for everyone. Clearly ACC and SEC teams are willing to do it because it happens every year.

I'd vote for once every 5 years. It was a different experience, but I'd rather tailgate in Boone (or on any college campus) and play in a college stadium with all of the sights and traditions. It felt more like a Bowl game than a home game.

Again, not bad as a one-off, but don't make it an annual occurance.

I get what you mean and obviously I would rather play in Boone but I would hope our admin would be willing to do it if that is what it means to get NC State, West Virginia, UVA, VT, SC, UNC, etc on our schedule more often or at all in the future. I know that things happen we won't know but would be curious to hear the offers from all the P5s we have had discussions with.

I know people argue that Coastal is ranked #15 playing a poor SOS but it is a super soft ranking that will crumble with a loss or a couple close games. They don't play any ranked teams this year so they don't have a game to help them bounce back if they stumble one week.

I'm not against a P5 in Charlotte, just not as an annual. Especially, in the current situation where we know that one or two of our home games each year are going the be moved to a weeknight (the price of success)
Speaking of Coastal's strength of schedule, they went into this week #179 in SOS in the Sagarin Ratings. (there are 130 FBS schools). App's schedule is #97

We knew our schedule is not brutal by any means but definitely better than theirs as that proves! It is a shame Miami has had injuries at QB which have likely cost them 2 games. That and a kicker who choked. Could you imagine if Louisiana had also beat Texas and was looking stronger? It probably would be around 60-70.

[AppStFan1]

I'm fine with playing a game in Charlotte if it's a H-H-N with a P5 we've never played. If it's what we have to do to finally get the West Virginia, NC State, UVA types on the schedule then I'm in. Would not be in favor of a Charlotte game to play bottom half P5s. A game at BOA needs to be a special event.

I'm with you. I don't want to play Vanderbilt, Duke, or one of the bottom 20 P5s. I want a top 40-50 P5 program if we do that.

We don't know the conversations going on but I would love to hear them. I am trusting Gillin to get us some good G5 series and P5s. I just hope that if we can somehow avoid a FCS that we do it but I get that sometimes just to get a home game we have to do so.

[Stonewall]

You might see a Big Ten team play football in Boone in the coming years.

[t4pizza]

One of the scheduling challenges right now is the potential for movement in CUSA and the AAC which makes scheduling them risky because contracts could get cancelled or we could even wind up as conference mates. The MAC is a safe option and Toledo is probably the best, or at least one of the best options in the MAC.

I don't agree with this take at all. The contract is with the team not the conference so it doesn't really matter what conference a team might move at a later date. Worst case scenario is that the team moves into the same conference with us and in that case we simply both agree to cancel the future game and find other opponents. I feel we should be trying to schedule better teams than Toledo or anything else the MAC has to offer, sorry but that conference does nothing for me.

You should be a Chapel Heel fan with that elitist attitude. This is a great game. Great City. Will be on one of the ESPN channels. I like it a lot. The MAC is a good conference with good teams. Toledo will be a challenge.

Clearly our opinions are vastly different if you believe that the MAC is a good conference with good teams. I doubt there are many college football fans throughout the nation that would agree with that belief. Just because I think the MAC is a bad conference made up of bad teams that I am not interested in playing does not make me an elitist, it just means that I would prefer better competition. If Toledo is a challenge than we will have fallen mighty far in the next 4 years. There are just too many other good teams from better conferences that I would be more interested in playing.

[WASU 93]

One of the scheduling challenges right now is the potential for movement in CUSA and the AAC which makes scheduling them risky because contracts could get cancelled or we could even wind up as conference mates. The MAC is a safe option and Toledo is probably the best, or at least one of the best options in the MAC.

I don't agree with this take at all. The contract is with the team not the conference so it doesn't really matter what conference a team might move at a later date. Worst case scenario is that the team moves into the same conference with us and in that case we simply both agree to cancel the future game and find other opponents. I feel we should be trying to schedule better teams than Toledo or anything else the MAC has to offer, sorry but that conference does nothing for me.

You should be a Chapel Heel fan with that elitist attitude. This is a great game. Great City. Will be on one of the ESPN channels. I like it a lot. The MAC is a good conference with good teams. Toledo will be a challenge.

Clearly our opinions are vastly different if you believe that the MAC is a good conference with good teams. I doubt there are many college football fans throughout the nation that would agree with that belief. Just because I think the MAC is a bad conference made up of bad teams that I am not interested in playing does not make me an elitist, it just means that I would prefer better competition. If Toledo is a challenge than we will have fallen mighty far in the next 4 years. There are just too many other good teams from better conferences that I would be more interested in playing.

If you put any value in the Sagarin Rankings, here's how the conferences stack up this year:

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

1 SEC-WEST (A) = 80.40 81.46 ( 1) 7 80.99 ( 1)
2 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 79.71 80.14 ( 2) 7 80.05 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.74 78.00 ( 3) 10 78.71 ( 3)
4 SEC-EAST (A) = 76.60 76.19 ( 4) 7 76.57 ( 4)
5 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 74.72 74.38 ( 7) 6 74.46 ( 6)
6 ACC-ATLANTIC (A) = 74.62 74.42 ( 5) 7 74.48 ( 5)
7 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 74.16 74.17 ( 8) 7 74.19 ( 7)
8 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 73.87 74.40 ( 6) 7 74.09 ( 8)
9 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 73.31 72.14 ( 9) 6 72.68 ( 9)
10 MWC-MOUNTAIN (A) = 68.51 67.33 ( 12) 6 68.04 ( 10)
11 MAC-WEST (A) = 67.40 67.77 ( 10) 6 67.67 ( 11)
12 MWC-WEST (A) = 67.19 66.80 ( 14) 6 66.90 ( 13)
13 AAC (A) = 66.76 67.65 ( 11) 11 67.20 ( 12)
14 SUN BELT-EAST (A) = 66.26 66.84 ( 13) 5 66.59 ( 14)
15 I-A IND. (A) = 62.68 62.23 ( 15) 7 63.30 ( 15)
16 CONF USA-EAST (A) = 61.20 60.60 ( 16) 7 60.80 ( 16)
17 MAC-EAST (A) = 60.15 59.35 ( 17) 6 59.79 ( 17)
18 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 58.79 59.06 ( 18) 11 58.93 ( 18)
19 CONF USA-WEST (A) = 58.28 58.98 ( 19) 7 58.77 ( 19)
20 SUN BELT-WEST (A) = 57.20 58.03 ( 20) 5 57.65 ( 20)

[spacemonkey]

One of the scheduling challenges right now is the potential for movement in CUSA and the AAC which makes scheduling them risky because contracts could get cancelled or we could even wind up as conference mates. The MAC is a safe option and Toledo is probably the best, or at least one of the best options in the MAC.

I don't agree with this take at all. The contract is with the team not the conference so it doesn't really matter what conference a team might move at a later date. Worst case scenario is that the team moves into the same conference with us and in that case we simply both agree to cancel the future game and find other opponents. I feel we should be trying to schedule better teams than Toledo or anything else the MAC has to offer, sorry but that conference does nothing for me.

You should be a Chapel Heel fan with that elitist attitude. This is a great game. Great City. Will be on one of the ESPN channels. I like it a lot. The MAC is a good conference with good teams. Toledo will be a challenge.

Clearly our opinions are vastly different if you believe that the MAC is a good conference with good teams. I doubt there are many college football fans throughout the nation that would agree with that belief. Just because I think the MAC is a bad conference made up of bad teams that I am not interested in playing does not make me an elitist, it just means that I would prefer better competition. If Toledo is a challenge than we will have fallen mighty far in the next 4 years. There are just too many other good teams from better conferences that I would be more interested in playing.

said like every Tarheel fan about playing East Carolina and AppState...And by every Georgia fan about playing Georgia Southern.....as they get beat downs. Toledo is a fine university. As far as FCS, there are many FCS teams that could hang with us. JMU would give us all we want.

[Stonewall]

We would beat JM like a rented mule.

[bcoach]

We would beat JM like a rented mule.

As we would most all FCS teams if we chose to. Toledo is a game not a great game. Toledo is a city not a great city. The MAC is a conference not a good conference. This has gotten silly.

[t4pizza]

One of the scheduling challenges right now is the potential for movement in CUSA and the AAC which makes scheduling them risky because contracts could get cancelled or we could even wind up as conference mates. The MAC is a safe option and Toledo is probably the best, or at least one of the best options in the MAC.

I don't agree with this take at all. The contract is with the team not the conference so it doesn't really matter what conference a team might move at a later date. Worst case scenario is that the team moves into the same conference with us and in that case we simply both agree to cancel the future game and find other opponents. I feel we should be trying to schedule better teams than Toledo or anything else the MAC has to offer, sorry but that conference does nothing for me.

You should be a Chapel Heel fan with that elitist attitude. This is a great game. Great City. Will be on one of the ESPN channels. I like it a lot. The MAC is a good conference with good teams. Toledo will be a challenge.

Clearly our opinions are vastly different if you believe that the MAC is a good conference with good teams. I doubt there are many college football fans throughout the nation that would agree with that belief. Just because I think the MAC is a bad conference made up of bad teams that I am not interested in playing does not make me an elitist, it just means that I would prefer better competition. If Toledo is a challenge than we will have fallen mighty far in the next 4 years. There are just too many other good teams from better conferences that I would be more interested in playing.

said like every Tarheel fan about playing East Carolina and AppState...And by every Georgia fan about playing Georgia Southern.....as they get beat downs. Toledo is a fine university. As far as FCS, there are many FCS teams that could hang with us. JMU would give us all we want.

This reminds me of how Lou Holtz used to build up opponents but no matter how often you say that the other team is good it doesn't make it true. The hyperbole has finally reached its peak if you really think that JMU would give us all we want because we would destroy them.