Season Tix Sold Out

[HighlandsApp]

Anger about students not getting a ticket is unwarranted.

Based on what is posted on the athletics website, I can't agree with that. I guess I'm being nitpicky, but I work in an environment where words mean something and if you put something in writing, it better say what you mean it to say.

I think this is just another in a growing list of poorly communicated or poorly executed initiatives by the athletic department.

As '94 said though, it is just a football game and nobody will suffer irreparably from not going.

But doesn't it say that if you join, aka pay up, then a student is guaranteed admission?

[appst89]

Anger about students not getting a ticket is unwarranted.

Based on what is posted on the athletics website, I can't agree with that. I guess I'm being nitpicky, but I work in an environment where words mean something and if you put something in writing, it better say what you mean it to say.

I think this is just another in a growing list of poorly communicated or poorly executed initiatives by the athletic department.

As '94 said though, it is just a football game and nobody will suffer irreparably from not going.

But doesn't it say that if you join, aka pay up, then a student is guaranteed admission?

Yes, but that isn't mentioned on the website. The guarantee is for currently enrolled students. There is no mention of an additional fee. I guess I misunderstood your original post. You were saying that if someone were to be angry, it should be over the additional fee of the SYC to receive something that seemingly is guaranteed in the tuition, is that correct? If so, I can agree with that.

[HighlandsApp]

Anger about students not getting a ticket is unwarranted. If you want to be angry about a new fee then you can be.

Here is the current Student YOSEF info:

Student Yosef Club
The Student Yosef Club is a membership-based booster organization whose mission is to support App State student-athletes, maintain an electric game day atmosphere and fuel the Mountaineer spirit.

1-Year Membership: $50
4-Year Membership: $150

2022-23 Student Yosef Club Benefits:

Guaranteed Tickets to ALL App State Athletics Events
​​​​15 minutes Early Admission to Football & Basketball Home Games
Reserved Student Section (mid-field sections)
Exclusive T-Shirt and Membership Sticker
Special Event Invites
Giveaways and Prizes
Build Priority Points as a Student

Here's the link to sign up:
https://appstatesports.evenue.net/www/e ... -athletics

And that 4 year fee of $150 was $85 last year.

Student fees total almost $25 MILLION per athletic year.

And yes the fees previously were $25 per year or $85 for four years. So this is a money grab and will also be a way to know exactly how many people will be at the game and whether and general admission tickets can be sold.

If the student YOSEF Club has had about a 1000 members previously then it raised about $25,000 per year. This year it will raise perhaps $500k.

[HighlandsApp]

Anger about students not getting a ticket is unwarranted.

Based on what is posted on the athletics website, I can't agree with that. I guess I'm being nitpicky, but I work in an environment where words mean something and if you put something in writing, it better say what you mean it to say.

I think this is just another in a growing list of poorly communicated or poorly executed initiatives by the athletic department.

As '94 said though, it is just a football game and nobody will suffer irreparably from not going.

But doesn't it say that if you join, aka pay up, then a student is guaranteed admission?

Yes, but that isn't mentioned on the website. The guarantee is for currently enrolled students. There is no mention of an additional fee. I guess I misunderstood your original post. You were saying that if someone were to be angry, it should be over the additional fee of the SYC to receive something that seemingly is guaranteed in the tuition, is that correct? If so, I can agree with that.

Yes.

I really think this is:

1- a way to know exactly how many people are going to be at the game.

2- a way to raise $500,000

3- a way to engage more young adults into being Yosef Club members

[appgrad95&97]

I know this is all about football and frankly just the Carolina game. But other than KBS we don't have a venue that could accommodate every student if every student wanted to go to a game. And in terms of student fees, I get the argument, but our athletic fees are nowhere near the highest in the SBC. This maybe painful, but these are growing pains.

[AppSt94]

Anger about students not getting a ticket is unwarranted.

Based on what is posted on the athletics website, I can't agree with that. I guess I'm being nitpicky, but I work in an environment where words mean something and if you put something in writing, it better say what you mean it to say.

I think this is just another in a growing list of poorly communicated or poorly executed initiatives by the athletic department.

As '94 said though, it is just a football game and nobody will suffer irreparably from not going.

But doesn't it say that if you join, aka pay up, then a student is guaranteed admission?

Yes, but that isn't mentioned on the website. The guarantee is for currently enrolled students. There is no mention of an additional fee. I guess I misunderstood your original post. You were saying that if someone were to be angry, it should be over the additional fee of the SYC to receive something that seemingly is guaranteed in the tuition, is that correct? If so, I can agree with that.

Not to pushback but the website speaks to “normal” bau. This is a one-off situation that requires a different set of rules. Those rules, in my opinion, were clearly communicated with the situation and offered solutions to mitigate exclusion.

[AppSt94]

I know this is all about football and frankly just the Carolina game. But other than KBS we don't have a venue that could accommodate every student if every student wanted to go to a game. And in terms of student fees, I get the argument, but our athletic fees are nowhere near the highest in the SBC. This maybe painful, but these are growing pains.

Excellent point on our other venues.

[appst89]

Anger about students not getting a ticket is unwarranted.

Based on what is posted on the athletics website, I can't agree with that. I guess I'm being nitpicky, but I work in an environment where words mean something and if you put something in writing, it better say what you mean it to say.

I think this is just another in a growing list of poorly communicated or poorly executed initiatives by the athletic department.

As '94 said though, it is just a football game and nobody will suffer irreparably from not going.

But doesn't it say that if you join, aka pay up, then a student is guaranteed admission?

Yes, but that isn't mentioned on the website. The guarantee is for currently enrolled students. There is no mention of an additional fee. I guess I misunderstood your original post. You were saying that if someone were to be angry, it should be over the additional fee of the SYC to receive something that seemingly is guaranteed in the tuition, is that correct? If so, I can agree with that.

Not to pushback but the website speaks to “normal” bau. This is a one-off situation that requires a different set of rules. Those rules, in my opinion, were clearly communicated with the situation and offered solutions to mitigate exclusion.

But it doesn't say that. Again, communication is essential, and we do it very poorly. If there are going to be exceptions, then that should be stated. I understand all the issues with capacity and this being an unusual situation and all of that. Maybe someone learns something from it. I hope so.

[AppSt94]

Based on what is posted on the athletics website, I can't agree with that. I guess I'm being nitpicky, but I work in an environment where words mean something and if you put something in writing, it better say what you mean it to say.

I think this is just another in a growing list of poorly communicated or poorly executed initiatives by the athletic department.

As '94 said though, it is just a football game and nobody will suffer irreparably from not going.

But doesn't it say that if you join, aka pay up, then a student is guaranteed admission?

Yes, but that isn't mentioned on the website. The guarantee is for currently enrolled students. There is no mention of an additional fee. I guess I misunderstood your original post. You were saying that if someone were to be angry, it should be over the additional fee of the SYC to receive something that seemingly is guaranteed in the tuition, is that correct? If so, I can agree with that.

Not to pushback but the website speaks to “normal” bau. This is a one-off situation that requires a different set of rules. Those rules, in my opinion, were clearly communicated with the situation and offered solutions to mitigate exclusion.

But it doesn't say that. Again, communication is essential, and we do it very poorly. If there are going to be exceptions, then that should be stated. I understand all the issues with capacity and this being an unusual situation and all of that. Maybe someone learns something from it. I hope so.

I think that we can all agree that the words poorly and communicated are synonymous with our athletic department. Indulge me on how you would of communicated the information.

[TheMoody1]

other than KBS we don't have a venue that could accommodate every student if every student wanted to go to a game.

Exactly. Obviously, it would be impossible for every student to get a ticket for every athletic event. They just need to re-word it to state that students get free tickets to every event up to the allotted amount of student tickets available.

[AppSt94]

As much as I expect to get grief for this, Carolina has a pretty sweet priority system for basketball tickets. They get points for attending other sports throughout the year which gets them higher priority for basketball. Which by the way, the Smith Center can’t accommodate the entire student body.

[HighlandsApp]

What are the exact words?

Students are admitted to all athletic events and I guess that one could say that implies admission for EVERY student to EVERY event but I don't think that implies a guarantee as it is general knowledge that this is not possible.

[TheMoody1]

As much as I expect to get grief for this, Carolina has a pretty sweet priority system for basketball tickets. They get points for attending other sports throughout the year which gets them higher priority for basketball. Which by the way, the Smith Center can’t accommodate the entire student body.

It worked the same way when my son was at Clemson. They don't even have a student athletic fee there.

[HighlandsApp]

As much as I expect to get grief for this, Carolina has a pretty sweet priority system for basketball tickets. They get points for attending other sports throughout the year which gets them higher priority for basketball. Which by the way, the Smith Center can’t accommodate the entire student body.

That's a good idea to increase attendance at other athletic events

[appgrad95&97]

Tuition paying students aren't guaranteed a spot in every class. Different students register at different times depending on a number of factors.

[appst89]

But doesn't it say that if you join, aka pay up, then a student is guaranteed admission?

Yes, but that isn't mentioned on the website. The guarantee is for currently enrolled students. There is no mention of an additional fee. I guess I misunderstood your original post. You were saying that if someone were to be angry, it should be over the additional fee of the SYC to receive something that seemingly is guaranteed in the tuition, is that correct? If so, I can agree with that.

Not to pushback but the website speaks to “normal” bau. This is a one-off situation that requires a different set of rules. Those rules, in my opinion, were clearly communicated with the situation and offered solutions to mitigate exclusion.

But it doesn't say that. Again, communication is essential, and we do it very poorly. If there are going to be exceptions, then that should be stated. I understand all the issues with capacity and this being an unusual situation and all of that. Maybe someone learns something from it. I hope so.

I think that we can all agree that the words poorly and communicated are synonymous with our athletic department. Indulge me on how you would of communicated the information.

It’s pretty simple. Just add a sentence to that blurb that says, “Student attendance subject to event demand and venue capacity.”

[AppSt94]

Yes, but that isn't mentioned on the website. The guarantee is for currently enrolled students. There is no mention of an additional fee. I guess I misunderstood your original post. You were saying that if someone were to be angry, it should be over the additional fee of the SYC to receive something that seemingly is guaranteed in the tuition, is that correct? If so, I can agree with that.

Not to pushback but the website speaks to “normal” bau. This is a one-off situation that requires a different set of rules. Those rules, in my opinion, were clearly communicated with the situation and offered solutions to mitigate exclusion.

But it doesn't say that. Again, communication is essential, and we do it very poorly. If there are going to be exceptions, then that should be stated. I understand all the issues with capacity and this being an unusual situation and all of that. Maybe someone learns something from it. I hope so.

I think that we can all agree that the words poorly and communicated are synonymous with our athletic department. Indulge me on how you would of communicated the information.

It’s pretty simple. Just add a sentence to that blurb that says, “Student attendance subject to event demand and venue capacity.”

We can certainly agree on one thing. You are being nit picky.

While those words aren’t specifically in the communication, it lays out the intent to get as many in as possible and clearly lays out how the student can ensure they don’t get left out.

I think a great deal of hand-wringing over this are assumptions and that the school needs to held completely accountable in getting the students in. It sounds like if you are a student and want in you can join the SYC. If you don’t want to, then you HAVE to register for the lottery which is a chance that they are willing to take. I doubt the 10,000 or so students that don’t go to games any other time will care enough to register.

As stated before, the statement regarding supply and demand doesn’t apply very often. My guess is that the last time it was an issue was when the Tar Heels came to Holmes. Did every student get into that game that wanted to go? How did the school handle that one?

[bigdaddyg]

Anger about students not getting a ticket is unwarranted. If you want to be angry about a new fee then you can be.

Here is the current Student YOSEF info:

Student Yosef Club
The Student Yosef Club is a membership-based booster organization whose mission is to support App State student-athletes, maintain an electric game day atmosphere and fuel the Mountaineer spirit.

1-Year Membership: $50
4-Year Membership: $150

2022-23 Student Yosef Club Benefits:

Guaranteed Tickets to ALL App State Athletics Events
​​​​15 minutes Early Admission to Football & Basketball Home Games
Reserved Student Section (mid-field sections)
Exclusive T-Shirt and Membership Sticker
Special Event Invites
Giveaways and Prizes
Build Priority Points as a Student

Here's the link to sign up:
https://appstatesports.evenue.net/www/e ... -athletics

And that 4 year fee of $150 was $85 last year.

Student fees total almost $25 MILLION per athletic year.

And yes the fees previously were $25 per year or $85 for four years. So this is a money grab and will also be a way to know exactly how many people will be at the game and whether and general admission tickets can be sold.

If the student YOSEF Club has had about a 1000 members previously then it raised about $25,000 per year. This year it will raise perhaps $500k.

Just wondering do schools like Alabama, Ohio State, etc (more money than god) still charge student fees like App does? Certainly they don't need to. Theoretically if someone made a $25m donation to App that covers the annual fees would the school still assess them? I'm guessing yes. We would just have more money to spend.

[appstate5]

So explain this to me, we only have 5,000 seats for students? What if 6,000 join the SYC expecting a seat? Now, that will make some parents IRATE!! Guess if my kids don't get a ticket I will be giving them ours and I will be missing the game WHICH REALLY TICKS ME OFF! This is my 4th year as a season ticket holder and I've been looking forward to this game ever since it was announced because I am as ANTI-UNcheat as a person can get.

Given the SYC only has about 1,000 members now, I can’t see that type of increase happening.

Why would you give your tickets to your kids and why would a voluntary action “tick you off”?

I've already heard of kids joining since the announcement, don't be surprised what the final number will be. What if a group of best friends, 6-8 want to go and 1 of the kids doesn't get a ticket via the lottery? That was the first thing my boys said this morning, afraid one in their group wouldn't get selected. My boys will be seniors, they haven't missed a game and are big fans...but so am I and like I said I've had this game penciled on the calendar for years. I would be ticked off because in reality I have already paid for their tickets with tuition.

Please don’t be offended by this as I understand your point as a parent. But all of this “what if” stuff hasn’t happened and should it; it’s a life lesson that sometimes life sucks. I get that it’s an important game as a fan but it is still a game. Yes, your tuition payment covers sporting event access. That hasn’t changed for 99.5% of the other event throughout the year but you are a) focusing on the .5% and b) you are putting all your energy into something that hasn’t happened yet.

Aside from that, has your son joined the SYC? If not, why?

My son(s) have not joined SYC because there was no real reason too. And $50 is a lot to a college student making $7.50 an hour. It's a shame my two tickets as a season ticket holder basically cost $35 each for the UNC game yet we are asking college students with limited income to pay $50 for the same game.

[BambooRdApp]

Isn't the student YC $50 for all home games, not just UNC game..so less than $10 per game. So they get perks all season