APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by MtnMan14 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:44 pm

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These could work in both EndZones. Dig out the hill and install these rollbacks.
This looks neat. Would allow for practice space since we use the game field for practice and for expanded seating.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:01 pm

MtnMan14 wrote:
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So if these are all UNC fans, we have our team running out through a tunnel surrounded by UNC fans? Seems poorly thought out to me…
There were other plans that didn’t work out. The initial plan was to put bleachers on Miller Hill for the season and renaming it Cline Hill. The company that was tasked with installing the seats, along with the AD determined that it wasn’t going to work due to grade, aesthetics, and site lines for the walkway behind the hill. When that fell through, the only viable option was to put the bleachers in the NEZ.
I know this is a stretch and would have taken a lot of work, but could we not have shifted some ticket holders for one game and put all of the UNC fans on the north side of the away stands, top and bottom sections? I would gladly move for a game to make sure we aren’t running out to a bunch of hole fans berating our players. Not a great welcome to the season, especially on home turf. I know there’s a lot involved in that, but this seems like the worst possible solution.
That’s a lot to ask from a staff that can’t get parking right.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by MtnMan14 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:10 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:01 pm
MtnMan14 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:43 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:16 pm
MtnMan14 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:12 pm
So if these are all UNC fans, we have our team running out through a tunnel surrounded by UNC fans? Seems poorly thought out to me…
There were other plans that didn’t work out. The initial plan was to put bleachers on Miller Hill for the season and renaming it Cline Hill. The company that was tasked with installing the seats, along with the AD determined that it wasn’t going to work due to grade, aesthetics, and site lines for the walkway behind the hill. When that fell through, the only viable option was to put the bleachers in the NEZ.
I know this is a stretch and would have taken a lot of work, but could we not have shifted some ticket holders for one game and put all of the UNC fans on the north side of the away stands, top and bottom sections? I would gladly move for a game to make sure we aren’t running out to a bunch of hole fans berating our players. Not a great welcome to the season, especially on home turf. I know there’s a lot involved in that, but this seems like the worst possible solution.
That’s a lot to ask from a staff that can’t get parking right.
Not disagreeing with that lol. But it just seems like an odd scenario for our players.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:15 pm

MtnMan14 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:10 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:01 pm
MtnMan14 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:43 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:16 pm
MtnMan14 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:12 pm
So if these are all UNC fans, we have our team running out through a tunnel surrounded by UNC fans? Seems poorly thought out to me…
There were other plans that didn’t work out. The initial plan was to put bleachers on Miller Hill for the season and renaming it Cline Hill. The company that was tasked with installing the seats, along with the AD determined that it wasn’t going to work due to grade, aesthetics, and site lines for the walkway behind the hill. When that fell through, the only viable option was to put the bleachers in the NEZ.
I know this is a stretch and would have taken a lot of work, but could we not have shifted some ticket holders for one game and put all of the UNC fans on the north side of the away stands, top and bottom sections? I would gladly move for a game to make sure we aren’t running out to a bunch of hole fans berating our players. Not a great welcome to the season, especially on home turf. I know there’s a lot involved in that, but this seems like the worst possible solution.
That’s a lot to ask from a staff that can’t get parking right.
Not disagreeing with that lol. But it just seems like an odd scenario for our players.
It may be odd, but I don’t think that it’s a situation that requires reinventing the wheel.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by appst89 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:52 am

It scares me to think that we've known about this game for years and the best we can come up with is our team entering the stadium through the UNC-Cheat fan section. I have little faith left in our athletic department.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:25 am

Oy vey! The things you folks fixate on.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:27 am

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It scares me to think that we've known about this game for years and the best we can come up with is our team entering the stadium through the UNC-Cheat fan section. I have little faith left in our athletic department.
I had commented on the thread discussing the camera view. I clicked on it the other day and saw some players headed back to the locker room. I try to keep some perspective with that camera shot as I don't know the exact dimensions but it looks like a narrow hallway so to speak between the two sections of temp bleachers. They can't exactly walk through the concourse and enter from the Miller Hill side and it will look bad to run in from the side. Obviously this is a seemingly minor thing but to go through such an extended effort for this game and have this potential issue is head scratching.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by appst89 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:16 am

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Oy vey! The things you folks fixate on.
Fixate? Yeah, it's another thing in a rapidly growing list of things that don't seem to be thought through or thought about at all. Sorry it bothers you, but I'm going to comment on those things.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by apphickory98 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:31 am

Lots of NEB tickets listed on Stubhub now for $160-180ish. Thinking about grabbing some for me and fam to go up...

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:41 am

appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:16 am
AppSt94 wrote:
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Oy vey! The things you folks fixate on.
Fixate? Yeah, it's another thing in a rapidly growing list of things that don't seem to be thought through or thought about at all. Sorry it bothers you, but I'm going to comment on those things.
To each his own. I get what it looks like on the surface to be poor planning but that is far from the truth. I can assure you that this was not the first option and I can also assure you that this idea wasn’t sketched on a napkin last Tuesday. They have been looking at ways to coordinate this for over a year. Lots of moving parts and lengthy discussions needed to be had with the Administration, the Fire Marshall, and construction vendors.

Does the AD frustrate people because of consistently tripping over themselves? 100% yes. The more I read this board, the more I am convinced that people just can’t be pleased. “It’s a bad look to have our guys run through Carolina fans.” What’s the solution? Put the students there and put their fans behind our bench? Displace loyal, season ticket holding App fans from the top deck on the East side into the EZ and lump 3500 baby blue patrons together? How would that look on TV? 3,500 baby blue fans huddled together in a stadium that holds 23000 isn’t something that you can hide easily.

So here’s the deal. You continue to complain and voice your displeasure about things that you have zero control over or took zero effort to ask why it is what it is, cool. It is a message board and that’s what it’s for. I will continue to roll my eyes at the cavil, criticism and moaning. Because it’s a message board. Sound fair?

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by appst89 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:50 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:41 am
appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:16 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:25 am
Oy vey! The things you folks fixate on.
Fixate? Yeah, it's another thing in a rapidly growing list of things that don't seem to be thought through or thought about at all. Sorry it bothers you, but I'm going to comment on those things.
To each his own. I get what it looks like on the surface to be poor planning but that is far from the truth. I can assure you that this was not the first option and I can also assure you that this idea wasn’t sketched on a napkin last Tuesday. They have been looking at ways to coordinate this for over a year. Lots of moving parts and lengthy discussions needed to be had with the Administration, the Fire Marshall, and construction vendors.

Does the AD frustrate people because of consistently tripping over themselves? 100% yes. The more I read this board, the more I am convinced that people just can’t be pleased. “It’s a bad look to have our guys run through Carolina fans.” What’s the solution? Put the students there and put their fans behind our bench? Displace loyal, season ticket holding App fans from the top deck on the East side into the EZ and lump 3500 baby blue patrons together? How would that look on TV? 3,500 baby blue fans huddled together in a stadium that holds 23000 isn’t something that you can hide easily.

So here’s the deal. You continue to complain and voice your displeasure about things that you have zero control over or took zero effort to ask why it is what it is, cool. It is a message board and that’s what it’s for. I will continue to roll my eyes at the fetching and moaning. Because it’s a message board. Sound fair?
I don't care how many options they considered. The one they settled on is dumb.

People can be pleased, they just need some communication; something that our AD seem to place absolutely no priority on. You seem to be the resident AD apologist so maybe you can help them understand that simple concept.

So yeah, sounds good to me. I'll point out problems and you make excuses for them. As for asking why, what good would that do? They never answer anyway.

Seems what you are suggesting is that we just stop caring altogether. I'm a lot closer to that than I would have ever imagined being.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by ArmantiWaterSafety » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:54 am

apphickory98 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:31 am
Lots of NEB tickets listed on Stubhub now for $160-180ish. Thinking about grabbing some for me and fam to go up...
I just want to acknowledge that you joined this board in 2015 and somehow still have the account information to make a first post 7 years later....bravo :lol:

But yes, do it. The more App faithful the better.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am

It would be helpful if the “this wasn’t thought through” crowd would occasionally offer a workable solution to problems like this.

We’ve never had to accommodate a visiting crowd as large as this. This seems like the best, least-disruptive solution.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by appst89 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:02 am

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It would be helpful if the “this wasn’t thought through” crowd would occasionally offer a workable solution to problems like this.

We’ve never had to accommodate a visiting crowd as large as this. This seems like the best, least-disruptive solution.
Have they ever been asked?

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:07 am

Add this to putting the visitor locker room on the west side so they need to run through our fans and across our field.

The master plan for the stadium has never been planned out, just piecemeal each step. This dates back to the Cobb days so some of this is playing the hand you are dealt as well.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:17 am

appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:02 am
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Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am
It would be helpful if the “this wasn’t thought through” crowd would occasionally offer a workable solution to problems like this.

We’ve never had to accommodate a visiting crowd as large as this. This seems like the best, least-disruptive solution.
Have they ever been asked?
I did mention to Patrick maybe doing focus groups with some of the most difficult people to please to gather feedback. Seems like you could be a viable candidate.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by appst89 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:21 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:17 am
appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:02 am
AppGrad78 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am
It would be helpful if the “this wasn’t thought through” crowd would occasionally offer a workable solution to problems like this.

We’ve never had to accommodate a visiting crowd as large as this. This seems like the best, least-disruptive solution.
Have they ever been asked?
I did mention to Patrick maybe doing focus groups with some of the most difficult people to please to gather feedback. Seems like you could be a viable candidate.
It was suggested before and never followed up on. I won't hold my breath.

It's a shame when expecting a minimal level of competence is looked upon as being difficult to please, but you can call it whatever you need to make yourself feel good.

And just so it's clear, I think Gillin is a fantastic AD. But the little things matter.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by apphickory98 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:22 am

ArmantiWaterSafety wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:54 am
apphickory98 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:31 am
Lots of NEB tickets listed on Stubhub now for $160-180ish. Thinking about grabbing some for me and fam to go up...
I just want to acknowledge that you joined this board in 2015 and somehow still have the account information to make a first post 7 years later....bravo :lol:

But yes, do it. The more App faithful the better.
Yes....do a lot of window shopping...and don't post a lot. And have to use "forgot password".....more than I like.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:38 am

appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:17 am
appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:02 am
AppGrad78 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am
It would be helpful if the “this wasn’t thought through” crowd would occasionally offer a workable solution to problems like this.

We’ve never had to accommodate a visiting crowd as large as this. This seems like the best, least-disruptive solution.
Have they ever been asked?
I did mention to Patrick maybe doing focus groups with some of the most difficult people to please to gather feedback. Seems like you could be a viable candidate.
It was suggested before and never followed up on. I won't hold my breath.

It's a shame when expecting a minimal level of competence is looked upon as being difficult to please, but you can call it whatever you need to make yourself feel good.

And just so it's clear, I think Gillin is a fantastic AD. But the little things matter.
Your “thought through” comment was not constructive criticism, it was complaining. And complaining about a situation that you clearly had no idea how it transpired, nor do I think you care to know. If you want to call it “an expected level of competence” to make yourself feel good, ok. I sincerely hope that you are able to take your focus off of the endzone “issue” to enjoy the game. Have a blessed day.

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Re: APP v UNC - NEB tickets???

Unread post by appst89 » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:45 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:38 am
appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:21 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:17 am
appst89 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:02 am
AppGrad78 wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:00 am
It would be helpful if the “this wasn’t thought through” crowd would occasionally offer a workable solution to problems like this.

We’ve never had to accommodate a visiting crowd as large as this. This seems like the best, least-disruptive solution.
Have they ever been asked?
I did mention to Patrick maybe doing focus groups with some of the most difficult people to please to gather feedback. Seems like you could be a viable candidate.
It was suggested before and never followed up on. I won't hold my breath.

It's a shame when expecting a minimal level of competence is looked upon as being difficult to please, but you can call it whatever you need to make yourself feel good.

And just so it's clear, I think Gillin is a fantastic AD. But the little things matter.
Your “thought through” comment was not constructive criticism, it was complaining. And complaining about a situation that you clearly had no idea how it transpired, nor do I think you care to know. If you want to call it “an expected level of competence” to make yourself feel good, ok. I sincerely hope that you are able to take your focus off of the endzone “issue” to enjoy the game. Have a blessed day.
I would have loved to have known, but that isn't an option since no one responds to phone calls or emails. So, all I have to go on is the optics. If that's complaining then so be it. Responding to your customers; that's what I call a minimal level of competence.

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