UNC game discussion

[t4pizza]

I think some of you might be forgetting about who Sam Howell was ---

As you might remember Sam committed to Florida State - huge get for the Seminoles but they lost their OC and low and behold, Mack swoops in and turns him - His first big GET ---

Consensus four-star prospect who is ranked the No. 2 player in the state of North Carolina, the No. 3 pro-style quarterback in the country and the No. 87 overall player nationally by the 247Sports Composite • Member of the ESPN300 • Ranked as the fourth-best QB at the Elite 11 Opening finals • Played in the All-American Bowl in San Antonio, going 11-of-13 for 167 yards and a TD along with a rushing TD • Represented North Carolina at the 2018 Shrine Bowl of the Carolinas • Finished his career by going 805-of-1,361 for 13,415 yards and 145 TDs, while rushing for 3,621 yards and 60 scores • Set the North Carolina record for total yards with 17,036 • Ranks second in state history in career passing yards • Named 2018 North Carolina Gatorade Player of the Year following his senior year • Tabbed North Carolina Offensive Player of the Year by USA Today, the AP, and the Charlotte Observer • Earned first-team all-state and All-Observer honors •

Sure, but he wasn't a true legit Heisman hopeful when we played them in 2019 in his 4th game. The best thing I learned about Sam while watching that game was that his Dad played for us back in the day and he grew up liking App. That right there is the best Sam Howell stat in my book.

[huskie3]

I think some of you might be forgetting about who Sam Howell was ---

As you might remember Sam committed to Florida State - huge get for the Seminoles but they lost their OC and low and behold, Mack swoops in and turns him - His first big GET ---

Consensus four-star prospect who is ranked the No. 2 player in the state of North Carolina, the No. 3 pro-style quarterback in the country and the No. 87 overall player nationally by the 247Sports Composite • Member of the ESPN300 • Ranked as the fourth-best QB at the Elite 11 Opening finals • Played in the All-American Bowl in San Antonio, going 11-of-13 for 167 yards and a TD along with a rushing TD • Represented North Carolina at the 2018 Shrine Bowl of the Carolinas • Finished his career by going 805-of-1,361 for 13,415 yards and 145 TDs, while rushing for 3,621 yards and 60 scores • Set the North Carolina record for total yards with 17,036 • Ranks second in state history in career passing yards • Named 2018 North Carolina Gatorade Player of the Year following his senior year • Tabbed North Carolina Offensive Player of the Year by USA Today, the AP, and the Charlotte Observer • Earned first-team all-state and All-Observer honors •

And the kicker - SON OF APP GRADS!

[AppStFan1]

I think some of you might be forgetting about who Sam Howell was ---

As you might remember Sam committed to Florida State - huge get for the Seminoles but they lost their OC and low and behold, Mack swoops in and turns him - His first big GET ---

Consensus four-star prospect who is ranked the No. 2 player in the state of North Carolina, the No. 3 pro-style quarterback in the country and the No. 87 overall player nationally by the 247Sports Composite • Member of the ESPN300 • Ranked as the fourth-best QB at the Elite 11 Opening finals • Played in the All-American Bowl in San Antonio, going 11-of-13 for 167 yards and a TD along with a rushing TD • Represented North Carolina at the 2018 Shrine Bowl of the Carolinas • Finished his career by going 805-of-1,361 for 13,415 yards and 145 TDs, while rushing for 3,621 yards and 60 scores • Set the North Carolina record for total yards with 17,036 • Ranks second in state history in career passing yards • Named 2018 North Carolina Gatorade Player of the Year following his senior year • Tabbed North Carolina Offensive Player of the Year by USA Today, the AP, and the Charlotte Observer • Earned first-team all-state and All-Observer honors •

Everyone knows who he was in high school but to be a real Heisman candidate you need to do something in college. Howell did not get any votes for ACC POY that season so I don't think he was a real candidate.

Maye's bio reads very similar:
Myers Park High School
An early enrollee who is a four-star prospect listed as the nation’s 57th-best player, the No. 6 pro-style quarterback and the No. 3 player in North Carolina in the 247Sports Composite • Tabbed as the nation’s 45th-best player, the No. 8 pocket passer and the No. 4 player in the state according to ESPN • A member of the ESPN 300 • Ranked as the nation’s 145th best player, the No. 8 pro-style quarterback and the No. 9 player in the state by Rivals • An Under Armour Alll-America Game selection • Tallied 6,713 yards and 86 TDs on 398-of-581 (68.5%) passing over his two prep seasons • An SI All-America candidate prior to his senior season • Named second-team All-American and MaxPreps North Carolina Player of the Year as a junior • Also tabbed first-team All-Observer and the Observer’s Male Athlete of the Year • Led Myers Park to a 12-1 record, a league title and a berth in the third round of the state playoffs • Completed 210-of-290 passes (72%) for 3,512 yards, 50 TDs and just two INTs • Both his yards and TDs set school records • Earned all-conference honors and the Rising Star Award as a sophomore • Recorded 3,201 yards and 36 TDs • Helped Myers Park to a 13-2 record and a trip to the state semifinals • Also a three-year basketball standout who averaged 16.1 points and 11.3 rebounds per game as a junior and earned all-conference and all-district honors • Coached by Scott Chadwick.

[yosef69]

Why is this thread becoming the Sam Howell thread. He’s Meechs son, that’s all we need to know. He’s not even on the team anymore.

[Seattleapp]

Why is this thread becoming the Sam Howell thread. He’s Meechs son, that’s all we need to know. He’s not even on the team anymore.

Because we are apparently obsessed with every Carolina quarterback, including ones who are no longer there or one’s who don’t play

[Longrifle28]

Stars don't mean squat except for recruiting rankings.

I'd much rather have a hungry 3 star that works hard and wanted to prove something, than a four or five star that feels entitled or thinks he's just all that because of his recruiting ranking.

Maye reminded me a little of Zach Thomas. I don't think he will run much, but when he does he has some wheels. Need to make sure we have an APP for that!

[WVAPPeer]

I am not obsessed with unc QBs - I don't care --- and No, Howell wasn't a Heisman candidate as a freshmen --- I just don't understand why any of our fans want to downplay a big win for us - Just don't understand it????

[spacemonkey]

I wonder who is going to step up this week like Meech did in 2019. Sam Howell is still having bad dreams about Taylor.....

This...This is what I am talking about. I hope it is a LOOONNNGGG day for the UNC quarterback. App needs to get there. FAMU put some pressure. I hope we can finish..............with sacks or poorly thrown balls.

Both sides will put up points...the better defense will win the game.

[TheMoody1]

I just don't understand why any of our fans want to downplay a big win for us - Just don't understand it????

Closet Hole fans?

[AppStFan1]

I am not obsessed with unc QBs - I don't care --- and No, Howell wasn't a Heisman candidate as a freshmen --- I just don't understand why any of our fans want to downplay a big win for us - Just don't understand it????

Agree on that part. It was a big win for many reasons. Anytime we can beat a P5 it is a big win and suppose to be an upset but luckily some P5s recruit poorly and mismanage so we are able to beat some of them. This would be the bigger win because we are so far in this Mack Brown era. We all even admitted last time that the next game in 2022 would probably be a lot tougher for us when he got his own recruits in.

What I find funny is the fact that they have some fans worried if somehow Downs and Duck don't play because that should still not be enough. There is zero excuse or reason they should lose to us, if the stars are accurate when you consider their resources. We will see if they have misused their resources and the stars are accurate on Saturday.

[Seattleapp]

I am not obsessed with unc QBs - I don't care --- and No, Howell wasn't a Heisman candidate as a freshmen --- I just don't understand why any of our fans want to downplay a big win for us - Just don't understand it????

They wasn’t really a shot at you. We have just been spending a whole lot of time talking about random UNC qb’s. But you are right, freshman or not, the win in Chapel Hill was amazing!

[WVAPPeer]

I know it wasn't a shot... just wanted to my point

[BambooRdApp]

Good gravy...Mack Brown would try to sell sand in the desert


“They’re experienced with confidence and we’re not. We haven’t won on the road, all odds are against us this weekend. We’re banged up, taking a first-year QB to Boone, they have a sixth year guy… We are going to have to play great to have a chance to win.”

[appstate77]

With all due respect, I'm not buying that UNC has greater talent than we have. The star system of recruiting often depends on the stomach ache the rator has the day he is working from home. Talent is a mixture of potential and preparation. Our guys prepare like there is no tomorrow. Every game is seen as the most important game. We are a development al program. Any so called 3 star, if he works his a## off becomes a 4 star by his third year. We have seen this over, and over, and over again. I'm still of the anyone, anytime, anyplace crowd. If we don't win the Holes will go home with broken bones and bloodied noses. If we win, which I expect, the Holes will go home with embarrassed broken bones and bloody noses. Nuff said. Bring on Saturday!

[sixtoes9134]

With all due respect, I'm not buying that UNC has greater talent than we have. The star system of recruiting often depends on the stomach ache the rator has the day he is working from home. Talent is a mixture of potential and preparation. Our guys prepare like there is no tomorrow. Every game is seen as the most important game. We are a development al program. Any so called 3 star, if he works his a## off becomes a 4 star by his third year. We have seen this over, and over, and over again. I'm still of the anyone, anytime, anyplace crowd. If we don't win the Holes will go home with broken bones and bloodied noses. If we win, which I expect, the Holes will go home with embarrassed broken bones and bloody noses. Nuff said. Bring on Saturday!

Just go ahead and shut this thread down. Best post I’ve seen in a while.

[RunawayJM]

With all due respect, I'm not buying that UNC has greater talent than we have. The star system of recruiting often depends on the stomach ache the rator has the day he is working from home. Talent is a mixture of potential and preparation. Our guys prepare like there is no tomorrow. Every game is seen as the most important game. We are a development al program. Any so called 3 star, if he works his a## off becomes a 4 star by his third year. We have seen this over, and over, and over again. I'm still of the anyone, anytime, anyplace crowd. If we don't win the Holes will go home with broken bones and bloodied noses. If we win, which I expect, the Holes will go home with embarrassed broken bones and bloody noses. Nuff said. Bring on Saturday!

+1

UNC has no concept of football culture. They assume that February recruiting rankings should equal wins in the fall.

I’ve not seen anything that resembles toughness from a Mack 2.0 team.

[AppAlum1]

With all due respect, I'm not buying that UNC has greater talent than we have. The star system of recruiting often depends on the stomach ache the rator has the day he is working from home. Talent is a mixture of potential and preparation. Our guys prepare like there is no tomorrow. Every game is seen as the most important game. We are a development al program. Any so called 3 star, if he works his a## off becomes a 4 star by his third year. We have seen this over, and over, and over again. I'm still of the anyone, anytime, anyplace crowd. If we don't win the Holes will go home with broken bones and bloodied noses. If we win, which I expect, the Holes will go home with embarrassed broken bones and bloody noses. Nuff said. Bring on Saturday!

This! Maybe best post ever.

[AppStFan1]

Good gravy...Mack Brown would try to sell sand in the desert


“They’re experienced with confidence and we’re not. We haven’t won on the road, all odds are against us this weekend. We’re banged up, taking a first-year QB to Boone, they have a sixth year guy… We are going to have to play great to have a chance to win.”

That was in a list of quotes from him the other day that I posted. Made me laugh so hard. So full of crap. A true salesman.

[AppStFan1]

With all due respect, I'm not buying that UNC has greater talent than we have. The star system of recruiting often depends on the stomach ache the rator has the day he is working from home. Talent is a mixture of potential and preparation. Our guys prepare like there is no tomorrow. Every game is seen as the most important game. We are a development al program. Any so called 3 star, if he works his a## off becomes a 4 star by his third year. We have seen this over, and over, and over again. I'm still of the anyone, anytime, anyplace crowd. If we don't win the Holes will go home with broken bones and bloodied noses. If we win, which I expect, the Holes will go home with embarrassed broken bones and bloody noses. Nuff said. Bring on Saturday!

You are indeed right and I brought it up before that on paper with the ratings they SHOULD have superior talent and win by 20, but, these schools miss and sometimes take players that are divas that just don't develop like they should. Just look at Nick Hampton, Peoples and Hodges being 2-star players because of their offer lists that have now become NFL prospects with 4-star talent. Regardless of what happens, it is just funny that a school with 1/5 the resources and not a single player they wanted out of high school coming from the ACC is worried about a G5 team like us who will never get a P5 invite. It shows how far we have come overall and how they have truly made a ton of mistakes in recruiting and hires over the years.

[Saint3333]

Bear picks the visitor, good value at a pick'em. Neither host has good things to say about Chase. If he comes out and performs with a whole new class of WRs in game one that should end that discussion. Go to minute 27.

https://www.espn.com/radio/play/_/id/34490041