UNC game discussion

[WVAPPeer]

Cheez-It is going to have his hands full with the other QBs they will see this season
- Van Dyke - Miami
- Slovis - Pitt
- Armstrong - UVA
- Leary - NCS
- ND is better than I expected
- They don't play WF until mid Nov - don't know what their QB situation will be
- Grant Wells - VT - is the kind of guy who could have a big day passing

I don't know if anyone will top 61 but others might come close

[appstatealum]

Man - you must of been watching a different game from me - I was really impressed with the WRs - are they as good right now as guys who played 5 years? No - but to say "Glaring issues" is totally baffling to me ---
Plus, how many games did Henni and Sutton play hurt or miss the game totally?

For a first game I'm with you. We can't be blind and say all of our players are the very best all the time and never make mistakes but to be really down on that group after their first game in the spotlight is not fair for sure. They did a pretty good job and I thought it was clear that they will be lethal when we get to conference play. We have at least 8 receivers who should be able to contribute this year.

I may be crazy. I just felt reminiscent of pre-henni/sutton/Malik where we didn't have definitive strength at WR. Smooth Davis def elevated as the game went on, but I just kept feeling like we weren't getting seperation on the outside and Bryce was just making the difference. I hope I'm just completely off-base since this was a rare time I watched a game on TV instead of live.

[AppStateNews]

Man - you must of been watching a different game from me - I was really impressed with the WRs - are they as good right now as guys who played 5 years? No - but to say "Glaring issues" is totally baffling to me ---
Plus, how many games did Henni and Sutton play hurt or miss the game totally?

For a first game I'm with you. We can't be blind and say all of our players are the very best all the time and never make mistakes but to be really down on that group after their first game in the spotlight is not fair for sure. They did a pretty good job and I thought it was clear that they will be lethal when we get to conference play. We have at least 8 receivers who should be able to contribute this year.

I may be crazy. I just felt reminiscent of pre-henni/sutton/Malik where we didn't have definitive strength at WR. Smooth Davis def elevated as the game went on, but I just kept feeling like we weren't getting seperation on the outside and Bryce was just making the difference. I hope I'm just completely off-base since this was a rare time I watched a game on TV instead of live.

Guess you didn't see the deep passes to Stroman, Robinson (which he did drop one), or Davis?

There was separation on a deep route almost every time we ran one where it was the first read. Was it elite separation? No. But, there was enough separation to get a pass in.

Look, I know you have tie ins to Sutton (possibly related) so you're going to be partial to that group. But to say the current group is a concern after the game they just had is crazy talk.

And to say it's because of a lack of separation is even more absurd. Hell, Henni made a living on little separation because, and I quote, "separation is overrated!"

[BambooRdApp]

So we are making comparisons between a group of players that played 3, 4, 5 years to a group of newbies first time out. If we want to compare competition. How much separation did our WRs get against The U last year in Miami, a P5 opponent?

[AppStFan1]

Man - you must of been watching a different game from me - I was really impressed with the WRs - are they as good right now as guys who played 5 years? No - but to say "Glaring issues" is totally baffling to me ---
Plus, how many games did Henni and Sutton play hurt or miss the game totally?

For a first game I'm with you. We can't be blind and say all of our players are the very best all the time and never make mistakes but to be really down on that group after their first game in the spotlight is not fair for sure. They did a pretty good job and I thought it was clear that they will be lethal when we get to conference play. We have at least 8 receivers who should be able to contribute this year.

I may be crazy. I just felt reminiscent of pre-henni/sutton/Malik where we didn't have definitive strength at WR. Smooth Davis def elevated as the game went on, but I just kept feeling like we weren't getting seperation on the outside and Bryce was just making the difference. I hope I'm just completely off-base since this was a rare time I watched a game on TV instead of live.

WR group is going to be good. I'm not sure who is going to end up being the best of the group but I fully expect at least 2 of them to make the All-SBC teams. We got a good group with some blazers and some possession types who run good routes.

[appstatealum]

Man - you must of been watching a different game from me - I was really impressed with the WRs - are they as good right now as guys who played 5 years? No - but to say "Glaring issues" is totally baffling to me ---
Plus, how many games did Henni and Sutton play hurt or miss the game totally?

For a first game I'm with you. We can't be blind and say all of our players are the very best all the time and never make mistakes but to be really down on that group after their first game in the spotlight is not fair for sure. They did a pretty good job and I thought it was clear that they will be lethal when we get to conference play. We have at least 8 receivers who should be able to contribute this year.

I may be crazy. I just felt reminiscent of pre-henni/sutton/Malik where we didn't have definitive strength at WR. Smooth Davis def elevated as the game went on, but I just kept feeling like we weren't getting seperation on the outside and Bryce was just making the difference. I hope I'm just completely off-base since this was a rare time I watched a game on TV instead of live.

Guess you didn't see the deep passes to Stroman, Robinson (which he did drop one), or Davis?

There was separation on a deep route almost every time we ran one where it was the first read. Was it elite separation? No. But, there was enough separation to get a pass in.

Look, I know you have tie ins to Sutton (possibly related) so you're going to be partial to that group. But to say the current group is a concern after the game they just had is crazy talk.

And to say it's because of a lack of separation is even more absurd. Hell, Henni made a living on little separation because, and I quote, "separation is overrated!"

My connection to Corey aside, I've always been partial to the smaller build shifty route runners (Malik, Peacock, Ike, Fowlkes), although I love a guy who can win 1v1 like Corey/Quick. I'm not used to watching games on TV, so maybe I just wasn't "tuned in" to watching off the ball like I am live. Obviously rhe 2pt conv was a mistake by #17, but I thought overall 2nd half each receiver looked better. I thought our Oline looked sharp and much more disciplined than years prior, so I with time, I'm expecting Bryce to be dialed in with receievers. Like I said, I'm hoping I am just way off and as much heat as MMB KS giving me, maybe I was just out of sync watching on TV.

[hapapp]

The beauty of the WR corps is that they are going to be really deep. I was impressed with how the ball was shared with so many different receivers. And, as Shawn stated in his presser today, this allows our receivers to be rested and it certainly showed in the 4th quarter.

[bigdaddyg]

By my count we probably easily have 6 receivers and 2 TE's who the staff feels confident to play and to throw to. Add in Peoples and Noel and probably DH who will see a swing or screen pass and that's at least 10 guys a game who might get a throw. I'm guessing we won't have that many 35 throw games so simple math says if you spread the wealth getting 5 balls your way is a big day. I don't recall too many balls thrown into too tight of coverage and the Heels never bothered to roll a safety over to help. How anyone we play other than A&M slows us down is beyond me. I can see us easily averaging 50 a game unless Shawn calls off the dogs in some 35-10 4th quarter games.

[BeauFoster]

By my count we probably easily have 6 receivers and 2 TE's who the staff feels confident to play and to throw to. Add in Peoples and Noel and probably DH who will see a swing or screen pass and that's at least 10 guys a game who might get a throw. I'm guessing we won't have that many 35 throw games so simple math says if you spread the wealth getting 5 balls your way is a big day. I don't recall too many balls thrown into too tight of coverage and the Heels never bothered to roll a safety over to help. How anyone we play other than A&M slows us down is beyond me. I can see us easily averaging 50 a game unless Shawn calls off the dogs in some 35-10 4th quarter games.

Coach Clark specifically mentioned that we have 8-9 receivers ready and who played Saturday, which lines up with your count. The constant changes in personnel will likely make it harder for teams to prepare for us (in terms of tendencies).

[AppSt94]

Man - you must of been watching a different game from me - I was really impressed with the WRs - are they as good right now as guys who played 5 years? No - but to say "Glaring issues" is totally baffling to me ---
Plus, how many games did Henni and Sutton play hurt or miss the game totally?

For a first game I'm with you. We can't be blind and say all of our players are the very best all the time and never make mistakes but to be really down on that group after their first game in the spotlight is not fair for sure. They did a pretty good job and I thought it was clear that they will be lethal when we get to conference play. We have at least 8 receivers who should be able to contribute this year.

I may be crazy. I just felt reminiscent of pre-henni/sutton/Malik where we didn't have definitive strength at WR. Smooth Davis def elevated as the game went on, but I just kept feeling like we weren't getting seperation on the outside and Bryce was just making the difference. I hope I'm just completely off-base since this was a rare time I watched a game on TV instead of live.

Guess you didn't see the deep passes to Stroman, Robinson (which he did drop one), or Davis?

There was separation on a deep route almost every time we ran one where it was the first read. Was it elite separation? No. But, there was enough separation to get a pass in.

Look, I know you have tie ins to Sutton (possibly related) so you're going to be partial to that group. But to say the current group is a concern after the game they just had is crazy talk.

And to say it's because of a lack of separation is even more absurd. Hell, Henni made a living on little separation because, and I quote, "separation is overrated!"

My connection to Corey aside, I've always been partial to the smaller build shifty route runners (Malik, Peacock, Ike, Fowlkes), although I love a guy who can win 1v1 like Corey/Quick. I'm not used to watching games on TV, so maybe I just wasn't "tuned in" to watching off the ball like I am live. Obviously rhe 2pt conv was a mistake by #17, but I thought overall 2nd half each receiver looked better. I thought our Oline looked sharp and much more disciplined than years prior, so I with time, I'm expecting Bryce to be dialed in with receievers. Like I said, I'm hoping I am just way off and as much heat as MMB KS giving me, maybe I was just out of sync watching on TV.

I was encouraged with the speed that our guys out coming out of breaks. They seem to have a 1/2 step more on the defenders than we have seen in the past.

[AppStFan1]

By my count we probably easily have 6 receivers and 2 TE's who the staff feels confident to play and to throw to. Add in Peoples and Noel and probably DH who will see a swing or screen pass and that's at least 10 guys a game who might get a throw. I'm guessing we won't have that many 35 throw games so simple math says if you spread the wealth getting 5 balls your way is a big day. I don't recall too many balls thrown into too tight of coverage and the Heels never bothered to roll a safety over to help. How anyone we play other than A&M slows us down is beyond me. I can see us easily averaging 50 a game unless Shawn calls off the dogs in some 35-10 4th quarter games.

Coach Clark specifically mentioned that we have 8-9 receivers ready and who played Saturday, which lines up with your count. The constant changes in personnel will likely make it harder for teams to prepare for us (in terms of tendencies).

Bigdaddyg said 6 WRs and 2 TEs but it looked like we are willing to play 8 WRs and 3 TEs, which Clark did say 8-9 receivers. If healthy, we got Robinson, Pinckney, Wells, Hetzel, Horn, Davis, Page, and Stroman at receiver. That does not include a couple names we are redshirting. At tight end, we have Pearson, Gibbs, and Wilson. Larkins should also play as well. We have a lot of options but only one who has been All-SBC before so it is wide open as to who rises to the top from the unit.

[AppStFan1]

For a first game I'm with you. We can't be blind and say all of our players are the very best all the time and never make mistakes but to be really down on that group after their first game in the spotlight is not fair for sure. They did a pretty good job and I thought it was clear that they will be lethal when we get to conference play. We have at least 8 receivers who should be able to contribute this year.

I may be crazy. I just felt reminiscent of pre-henni/sutton/Malik where we didn't have definitive strength at WR. Smooth Davis def elevated as the game went on, but I just kept feeling like we weren't getting seperation on the outside and Bryce was just making the difference. I hope I'm just completely off-base since this was a rare time I watched a game on TV instead of live.

Guess you didn't see the deep passes to Stroman, Robinson (which he did drop one), or Davis?

There was separation on a deep route almost every time we ran one where it was the first read. Was it elite separation? No. But, there was enough separation to get a pass in.

Look, I know you have tie ins to Sutton (possibly related) so you're going to be partial to that group. But to say the current group is a concern after the game they just had is crazy talk.

And to say it's because of a lack of separation is even more absurd. Hell, Henni made a living on little separation because, and I quote, "separation is overrated!"

My connection to Corey aside, I've always been partial to the smaller build shifty route runners (Malik, Peacock, Ike, Fowlkes), although I love a guy who can win 1v1 like Corey/Quick. I'm not used to watching games on TV, so maybe I just wasn't "tuned in" to watching off the ball like I am live. Obviously rhe 2pt conv was a mistake by #17, but I thought overall 2nd half each receiver looked better. I thought our Oline looked sharp and much more disciplined than years prior, so I with time, I'm expecting Bryce to be dialed in with receievers. Like I said, I'm hoping I am just way off and as much heat as MMB KS giving me, maybe I was just out of sync watching on TV.

I was encouraged with the speed that our guys out coming out of breaks. They seem to have a 1/2 step more on the defenders than we have seen in the past.

Horn, Wells, and Davis are easily faster than what we had last year. Hennigan and Malik were 4.6 and high 4.5 players while Sutton was likely a 4.55-4.60. I think our top 3 this year are all at least 4.45-4.52 type speed.

[AppinATL]

To someone's comment before, I donr feel like our WR situation is good. They had flashes, but this is a huge drop off from Henni/Sutton. They are young and the others didn't have much big game experience, so we shall see. But to say they looked great is denying the truth- our secondary and WRs are glaring issues.

I’m just going to say, I predict this post will age very poorly.

[bigdaddyg]

By my count we probably easily have 6 receivers and 2 TE's who the staff feels confident to play and to throw to. Add in Peoples and Noel and probably DH who will see a swing or screen pass and that's at least 10 guys a game who might get a throw. I'm guessing we won't have that many 35 throw games so simple math says if you spread the wealth getting 5 balls your way is a big day. I don't recall too many balls thrown into too tight of coverage and the Heels never bothered to roll a safety over to help. How anyone we play other than A&M slows us down is beyond me. I can see us easily averaging 50 a game unless Shawn calls off the dogs in some 35-10 4th quarter games.

Coach Clark specifically mentioned that we have 8-9 receivers ready and who played Saturday, which lines up with your count. The constant changes in personnel will likely make it harder for teams to prepare for us (in terms of tendencies).

Bigdaddyg said 6 WRs and 2 TEs but it looked like we are willing to play 8 WRs and 3 TEs, which Clark did say 8-9 receivers. If healthy, we got Robinson, Pinckney, Wells, Hetzel, Horn, Davis, Page, and Stroman at receiver. That does not include a couple names we are redshirting. At tight end, we have Pearson, Gibbs, and Wilson. Larkins should also play as well. We have a lot of options but only one who has been All-SBC before so it is wide open as to who rises to the top from the unit.

I didn't try to absolutely nail it down to the number of guys who realistically would get thrown to but if on the high end we have 35 pass plays- probably a lot since we had 36 in a frantic rally, and we use 10-12 guys that is a lot of sharing. I think it's a great dilemma in that (as was pointed out) teams can't nail down tendencies because of the depth. Stroman got one ball for about 40 yards. I'm understanding he's gonna be a beast. If we can consistently trot out 3 tight ends who can block and catch it's gonna be a challenge to stop.

[appstatealum]

To someone's comment before, I donr feel like our WR situation is good. They had flashes, but this is a huge drop off from Henni/Sutton. They are young and the others didn't have much big game experience, so we shall see. But to say they looked great is denying the truth- our secondary and WRs are glaring issues.

I’m just going to say, I predict this post will age very poorly.

I hope so.

[Black Saturday]

Glad to see APP take away UNC KO return game with touchbacks. Wouldn't mind seeing that every game.

[GreatAppSt]

Glad to see APP take away UNC KO return game with touchbacks. Wouldn't mind seeing that every game.

You can say that again.

[AppStFan1]

By my count we probably easily have 6 receivers and 2 TE's who the staff feels confident to play and to throw to. Add in Peoples and Noel and probably DH who will see a swing or screen pass and that's at least 10 guys a game who might get a throw. I'm guessing we won't have that many 35 throw games so simple math says if you spread the wealth getting 5 balls your way is a big day. I don't recall too many balls thrown into too tight of coverage and the Heels never bothered to roll a safety over to help. How anyone we play other than A&M slows us down is beyond me. I can see us easily averaging 50 a game unless Shawn calls off the dogs in some 35-10 4th quarter games.

Coach Clark specifically mentioned that we have 8-9 receivers ready and who played Saturday, which lines up with your count. The constant changes in personnel will likely make it harder for teams to prepare for us (in terms of tendencies).

Bigdaddyg said 6 WRs and 2 TEs but it looked like we are willing to play 8 WRs and 3 TEs, which Clark did say 8-9 receivers. If healthy, we got Robinson, Pinckney, Wells, Hetzel, Horn, Davis, Page, and Stroman at receiver. That does not include a couple names we are redshirting. At tight end, we have Pearson, Gibbs, and Wilson. Larkins should also play as well. We have a lot of options but only one who has been All-SBC before so it is wide open as to who rises to the top from the unit.

I didn't try to absolutely nail it down to the number of guys who realistically would get thrown to but if on the high end we have 35 pass plays- probably a lot since we had 36 in a frantic rally, and we use 10-12 guys that is a lot of sharing. I think it's a great dilemma in that (as was pointed out) teams can't nail down tendencies because of the depth. Stroman got one ball for about 40 yards. I'm understanding he's gonna be a beast. If we can consistently trot out 3 tight ends who can block and catch it's gonna be a challenge to stop.

I know. Just pointing out even deeper than it may appear by first glance. A lot of capable names.

[MountaineerNation]

Glad to see APP take away UNC KO return game with touchbacks. Wouldn't mind seeing that every game.

You can say that again.

The touch backs were awesome to see! One thing about being there. Just wanted to point out about the receivers. Overall, especially the 2nd half, they looked like they belonged, very comfortable out there which was super encouraging for the remainder of the year

[Stonewall]

Any issues regarding the receiver position are settled in my mind , for years into the future perhaps.As to kicking ,the long field goal was a "thud" reminiscent of Knoxville a few years back . It never had a chance.